The Uncertain Future
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I would say most of these are a safe bet, in the sense that they'll be profitable anyways. Except perhaps GI Joe. I for one also enjoyed the first.
G.I. Joe? Didn't see the first one, so I most likely won't be going to this one. Unless I see 1 between now and the release of 2, and really really enjoy it, it'll fly right below my radar.
Iron Man? Oh please, it's Iron Man. Even if it's not that critically successful, most of the people who went to see The Avengers (and that's a buttload of people) will go and see it.
Superman? I think it'll be a slow starter. The diehard fans will see it, and if it's good attendance will go up after that.
Pacific Rim? Giant robots, giant monsters, Idris Elba, Ron Perlman, Charlie Day? I can't see this movie soon enough!
Iron Man? Oh please, it's Iron Man. Even if it's not that critically successful, most of the people who went to see The Avengers (and that's a buttload of people) will go and see it.
Superman? I think it'll be a slow starter. The diehard fans will see it, and if it's good attendance will go up after that.
Pacific Rim? Giant robots, giant monsters, Idris Elba, Ron Perlman, Charlie Day? I can't see this movie soon enough!
While far from perfect, (short final battles), I think that Bob is far too harsh on the Iron Man series. They're good films. Actually, they're great films.
I can't see Pacific Rim doing much more than break even. Giant robots fight aliens? That's niche, and even the mainstream Transformers movies only really made money from super fanboys at first, and subsequently the kids who liked the toys. Plus, it's hard to suspend disbelief about giant robots in an apocalyptic future. The only genre that can pull it off is anime, because they mix in a ton of politics, and have a far longer running time to explain themselves. Sorry, but I can't see it being any good, regardless of who directs it.
And Warner Bros strikes again with Superman. I can almost see the board meeting now: "Batman was dark and successful. Green Lantern was bright and flopped. Let's make Superman even darker, and get that chappy who worked on Batman to help out". There seems to be little and less regard for the source material, which is a shame - you'll notice that each of the Marvel Studios films have been catered to the character and original books to almost insane lengths... and the proof is in the pudding. Man of Steel trailer is terrible, and while that doesn't write it off as a film, it certainly is a bad start.
I can't see Pacific Rim doing much more than break even. Giant robots fight aliens? That's niche, and even the mainstream Transformers movies only really made money from super fanboys at first, and subsequently the kids who liked the toys. Plus, it's hard to suspend disbelief about giant robots in an apocalyptic future. The only genre that can pull it off is anime, because they mix in a ton of politics, and have a far longer running time to explain themselves. Sorry, but I can't see it being any good, regardless of who directs it.
And Warner Bros strikes again with Superman. I can almost see the board meeting now: "Batman was dark and successful. Green Lantern was bright and flopped. Let's make Superman even darker, and get that chappy who worked on Batman to help out". There seems to be little and less regard for the source material, which is a shame - you'll notice that each of the Marvel Studios films have been catered to the character and original books to almost insane lengths... and the proof is in the pudding. Man of Steel trailer is terrible, and while that doesn't write it off as a film, it certainly is a bad start.
I think there is a pre-existing niche for Pacific Rim in the, admittedly quite small, Kaiju film and Giant Robot Show fandom (The two, not surprsingly, overlap a fair bit and the content itself is by no means mutually exclusive).
You could also arguably include the Transformers films success as hope that people will go to see this film. I wouldn't be surprised if this was how the film was pitched originally to executives (Transformers with Monsters) and it's not too far-fetched for people who went to see that film to go to this one because 'Hey, it's got robots in it, man'.
Of course a big part of it is how it's going to be marketed. Great films can fall down easily because of the marketing as we've seen before; look at Dredd 3D.
I for one am very excited. I think this is the first time piloted giant robots have been given a proper Hollywood treatment.
The admittedly flawed, but still fun Italian Robot Jox and its spiritual sequels being really the only time I can think of that we got that sort of thing in live action and in the West, with District 9, the Matrix sequels and Avatar having mechs, but not really focusing on them.
You could also arguably include the Transformers films success as hope that people will go to see this film. I wouldn't be surprised if this was how the film was pitched originally to executives (Transformers with Monsters) and it's not too far-fetched for people who went to see that film to go to this one because 'Hey, it's got robots in it, man'.
Of course a big part of it is how it's going to be marketed. Great films can fall down easily because of the marketing as we've seen before; look at Dredd 3D.
I for one am very excited. I think this is the first time piloted giant robots have been given a proper Hollywood treatment.
The admittedly flawed, but still fun Italian Robot Jox and its spiritual sequels being really the only time I can think of that we got that sort of thing in live action and in the West, with District 9, the Matrix sequels and Avatar having mechs, but not really focusing on them.
I have nothing to worry about regarding Iron Man 3 or Man of Steel. Iron Man will probably run off the leftover goodwill from The Avengers, and we got his nemesis The Mandarin now! To me, Man of Steel is not darker and grittier, but a more grounded and relatable story of Superman. And Zack Snyder can make great movies if he's on a long-enough leash, which Chris Nolan is holding now.
That was a great point raised by the Iron Man movie. I for one am interested in seeing what they do next now that everyone jumps back to their solo roles. I don't think, however, that the same amount of people will watch these solo movies as did The Avengers. Not only was The Avengers a big deal to comic book fans, it became a Summer Blockbuster which is viewed by people just looking for a good action flick. It will be interesting to see if Iron Man 3 does as well, or better than past movies in the series.