well Sargeras has always been the actual leader of the Burning Legion but as far as people who have existed physically on Azeroth or Outland that would be Archimonde before KiljeadenSpartan Bannana said:
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well we fought one old god and another one is dead already with a large titan spear in him, but in the other parts of the lore such as Deathwing's story the old gods have been overall manipulative bitchesThe Madman said:
Blizzard said early on that the reason you had the terrible ingame cinematic with the Arthas Illidan fight in TFT is because they ran out of time, originally it had been a cinematic with the same graphics and gusto of the others in the game, and at the end it would have shown Illidan watching as Arthas ascended to his throne. In the Burning Crusade, Players made their way through "tiers" of content (called such because each raid set had a different tier loot associated with it) Tier Four was introductory, it was the Raid dungeon Karazhan, where Medivh used to hang his hat. Not much lore was given about this and thus the fanbase was confused about why we went in and tried to kill everything within. Tier Five was defeating Illidans old Lieutenants, Vasj and Kael'Thas. Origionally this was part of the attunement for Tier 6 content as both Vasj and Kael had a vial of the original well of eternity given to them by Illidan. Kael'thas had cut ties with Illidan, who after his failure at Icecrown, he went insane and did everything he could to protect himself from Kil'Jaedens wrath. Kael'thas went to work for the Burning Legion directly, his attacks on Tempest Keep netted him a Narru that he sent back to Azeroth so that the Blood Elves could become paladins (they literally forced the Narru to work for them). However just prior to the reopening of the Dark Portal by Kazzak, Valen and his Dranei were able to capture one of Tempest Keep's satellite facilities, the Exodar, and use it to flee Outland. As far as we know Vashj still works for Illidan, and is draining Zangermarsh of Water. Why I'm not really sure but she is, however if Lady Azhara summons Vashj will come running. Kael'thas was defeated and wounded terribly in Tempest Keep by the players, Vashj seems to have been killed in Serpent Shrine Cavern.implodingMan said:
Tier Six content consisted of three seperate raids, Caverns of Time: Mount Hyjal, Black Temple and Sunwell Plateau. Hyjal and BT were both put in fairly early on, Hyjal was the players going back in time to prevent the infinite dragonflight from redirecting the course of history by having archimonde kill the world tree without dying himself. It's an interesting instance from a lore perspective, as you get to fight side by side with Jaina, Thrall, and Tyrande in the WoW version of the final Warcraft 3 level.
Black Temple was Illidans fortress, With help from Akama and Miev Shadowsong, the players fight their way up from the sewers to the very pinnacle of the fortress. Killing Tereon Gorefiend and a bunch of other servents of Illidan. The last Boss is Illidan himself, the fight starts with Akama confronting Illidan, and after the first phase of the fight Akama departs, The players beat Illidan down to a certain percentage of his life, and Miev shows up and helps you finish him off. Then she realizes she no longer has a purpose in life, and nothing more is shown of her.
Sunwell Plateau, and it's 5 man partner Magisters Terrace, were added in the last 4 months of Burning Crusade. Magisters Terrace was about going in and stopping Kael'thas (who players thought they had killed in Tempest Keep) from helping is master get back to Azeroth using the spirit of the Sunwell. Sunwell Plateau was a VERY difficult dungeon that had you fighting everything from a Pit Lord, to Kael'thas's kidnapped Narru, to Kil'Jaeden himself (Kil'Jaeden didn't get killed, the explanation for how we fought him was that he wasn't fully in the material plane. Players simply held him off long enough that the spirit of the Sunwell was able to force him back into the Twisting Nether)
Long story short, you killed Illidan and most of the major players in Warcraft 3 TFT. And it looks like Wrath is having us finish off most of the other major characters (although they do have a penchant to be like comic books and bring everyone back... Dreadlords have a nasty habit or returning.)
... The Burning Legion was created by Sargeras, who has been in a fight with the denizens of Azeroth Twice, once during the war of the ancients, and the second time he was killed by Agwen. He was able to secret his soul into Agwens womb, When Agwen eventually gave birth to Medivh, part of Sargeras was in Medivh. That part didn't show until Medivh came to majority and got most of his powers. Sargeras used medivh to bring the Orcs to Azeroth and precipitate the three major wars. Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden are the two Lieutenants, second only in power to Sargares himself within the burning legion. Kil'Jaeden created the Lich King by twisting and imprisoning the soul of Ner'Zhul (an orc Shaman from Beyond the Dark Portal) within a block of ice and some armor. Ner'Zhul forced Frostmourne from the ice and set it up to find a hero that it would seduce to the "dark side". The reason that Arthas keeps loosing power in TFT is becasue the hole that frostmourne left in the ice was slowly letting power out of the throne. At the end of TFT Arthas and Ner'Zhul combine to become one of the most powerful beings on Azeroth.
Arthas doesn't however have the power to manipulate time.
Sargeras is too big a boss for them to go after next. My money's on the Maelstrom: Queen Azshara, our favorite Night-Elf-Archsorceress-turned-Chthulian-Horror is lurking beneath the waves to tentacle-rape dozens of raiding guilds 
The basic consensus from the fanbase is that we're either headed to the Maelstrom or into the Emerald Dream (which has been corrupted)Optimystic said:Sargeras is too big a boss for them to go after next. My money's on the Maelstrom: Queen Azshara, our favorite Night-Elf-Archsorceress-turned-Chthulian-Horror is lurking beneath the waves to tentacle-rape dozens of raiding guilds
Just another thing to note, the final boss fight in the current raiding structure (meaning the hardest boss/raid) is Malygos the master of magic. I'm annoyed that they have us killing an aspect but :shrugs:
Even if Mal dies for good, there will probably be another blue dragon (Kalecgos?) to take his place as Aspect to ensure that Azeroth stays empowered.Calax said:
And you're right, Emerald Dream will probably be next... we'll need Furion's help to keep Azshara under the waves. But Azshara already has the perfect neutral city for the Alliance/Horde to congregate in, namely Undermine.
I'd kinda dispise the blizzard group if they did. Mainly because of their infatuation with Knaak's books (which have some unbelievable retcons and mary sueisms in there. His favorite mary sue is Rhonin, who, among other things, freed Alexstraza, went back in time and fought in the war of the ancients, taught illidan magic, an all sort of other things that are attempts to make him the central character of WoW). IMHO Knaak couldn't make a complicated plot if he had a gun to his head.Optimystic said:
Why? Malygos hates us basically because we're using magic, but what the hell else do you DO with magic? He needs to be removed from the picture, imo. And all of Kalec's dalliances with the Sunwell etc. seem to be setting him up to be the new Aspect.Calax said:
But I despise Rhonin and Knaak's books also XD He's basically been turned into the Goku of Warcraft... although i did LOVE his line to Furion re: the Tauren.
Night Elf Noble: Tauren in Zin-Azshari? How barbaric!
Rhonin: They'd rather have demons?
Malfurion Stormrage: You wouldn't understand.
Rhonin: No, I wouldn't.
The reason I don't like the death of Malygos is because he's supposed to be the Immortal aspect of Magic. While I agree he needed containment at the very least, I think his death shouldn't have happened as his power is on a level that can rival Archimond and Kil'Jaeden.
It should also be noted that another aspect has been reported killed several times. Deathwing was hit by a combined blast of EVERY MEMBER of the Kirin Tor, and was wounded. He was thought dead because he didn't resurface until Alextraza was freed. I guess I'd think that if Deathwing couldn't be killed by 20 of the strongest magic users on the planet, Malygos shouldn't be killed by a group of 10 random adventurers riding red dragons.
It should also be noted that another aspect has been reported killed several times. Deathwing was hit by a combined blast of EVERY MEMBER of the Kirin Tor, and was wounded. He was thought dead because he didn't resurface until Alextraza was freed. I guess I'd think that if Deathwing couldn't be killed by 20 of the strongest magic users on the planet, Malygos shouldn't be killed by a group of 10 random adventurers riding red dragons.
First of all, WotLK will go on for a long ass time. From just the lore point of view, Arthas's defenses are inperntrable. He can also raise more soldiers from the fallen dead ones, so if we every even tried to assult Icecrown, the Argent force's would just be completly wiped out. Really i don't think that we should ever raid Arthas. I think that if we were to fight him that it should be a quest line, leading up to a cut scene like what happened with Bolvar. But i doubt that we will be even doing anything with Arthas for quite some time
The reason why Arthas is losing power is because of Illidan actually. He used the Eye of Sargeras, demanded by Kil'Jaeden, to destroy the Frozen Throne. He failed however because of Malfurion Stormrage and Maiev Shadowsong combined efforts. He did however manage to create a crack in the frozen throne. This caused Ner'Zhul's (AKA The Lich King) power to slowly drain. Since Arthas is linked to Ner'Zhul through Frostmourne, he also started to lose his power.Calax said:
This is what caused, just as a remark, Sylvanas Windrunner to break free from The Lich Kings dominion.
As you said, once Arthas defeated Illidan (Who was ordered by Kil'Jaeden once again to destroy the Frozen Throne) at the stairs to the Frozen Throne, Arthas shatters the prison that keeps the spirit of Ner'Zhul trapped. He then merges with the spirit of Ner'Zhul to form a single entity.
