The WHY? Thread

[VeryOddGamer]

why is the [strike/]rum[/S] cider gone? why am I so lonely?[footnote/]its technically my brithday at this time and I am quite drunk and wanting to talk to somone [/footnote]

Oh, merry Christmas happy birthday, my misspelling friend. I can call you friend, right? Right.

OT: WHY OH WHY doesn't INDRICK BOREALE narrate every single thing in existence?

 

[Vigormortis]

My most recent "Why?!" moments came from rewatching "The Avengers".

Spoiler: Spoilered, just in case.

Why was the Hulk suddenly completely comfortable with helping his fellow Avengers when, only minutes prior, he was trying to kill most of them?

For that matter, during the final confrontation, why was he able to take down one of the Chitauri colossi with one punch (after transforming within a fraction of a second), and shortly after was having trouble punching a hole in a single plate of armor?

Also, ignoring the oddly non-lethal centripetal force, why didn't Stark simply fly upwards after the impeller blades were spinning?

Honestly, the more I think about that movie, the more I have "Why?!" and "What?!" style questions pop into my head.

Don't get me wrong, I love the movie. But...good lord, were large portions of it dumb.

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Happy birthday Vault. Make it a good one.

(seeing as you're drunk, you're already half way there.)

 

[Easton Dark]

Why WHY WHY

WHY in Fallout New Vegas does the game give me an option to buy and sell ammo components? They aren't worth anything!

The merchants give them to me, I give them to the merchants. They're worth literally nothing to everybody.

No one makes a profit or any money from their sale, and they don't weigh anything, so there's no point for me to even drop them somewhere or give them to the merchants. Their presence in my inventory, and more importantly, the barter menu, is completely pointless. It only serves to clutter everything up on those screens.

WHY ARE THEY THERE

And also:

WHY in Fallout New Vegas can I not reassign the 2 key to anything other than ammo switch? I can change the hotkey for ammo switch to the fucking enter key, but then 2 is a useless key. Why can't I assign a weapon there?

Obsidian fucking hard-coded it that 2 is always for ammo switching, but when they allow you to change ammo switch to something else, 2 becomes a fucking useless corpse of a button.

WHY DID THEY DO THAT

 

[Shoggoth2588]

Star Wars: The Force Unleashed 2

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WHY!?

In ZombiU, why can't I drop the starting pistol?

Doing anything for Delphine in Skyrim! *****, I am the goddamn Dragonborn, stop treating me like a dog! Why should I kill someone who has been extraordinarily helpful to me for crimes he more than atoned for? Compared to a lady who sent me to an embassy where we found jackshit.

Is she the one who tells you to kill Parthaanax? I don't remember names and whatnot...haven't played Skyrim in a month or three. Agreed though if that's who you mean. "Hey Dragonborn, go kill that Parthanaax guy. What do you mean he helped you more than once over the course of your quest? Screw that, you should kill him anyway! Why? WHY NOT!?!"

 

[WanderingFool]

Something less of a why, and more of a what.

Spoiler: Mortal Kombat 2011

After a stupidly stupid beat down from Sindel, about 10 of the good guys bite the dust. Only to end up in the Netherrealm.
...WHAT?!

They shouldn't have even been able to SET FOOT in there; you have to have an evil soul to even be allowed inside. Shao Kahn gave Quan Chi their souls? They weren't his souls to dictate!

Actually, I was all like,


when I saw that. Maybe I missed something, but how the hell was Shoa Kahn able to do that? I called bullshit hadrcore right there.

 

[silver wolf009]

Something less of a why, and more of a what.

Spoiler: Mortal Kombat 2011

After a stupidly stupid beat down from Sindel, about 10 of the good guys bite the dust. Only to end up in the Netherrealm.
...WHAT?!

They shouldn't have even been able to SET FOOT in there; you have to have an evil soul to even be allowed inside. Shao Kahn gave Quan Chi their souls? They weren't his souls to dictate!

Actually, I was all like,


when I saw that. Maybe I missed something, but how the hell was Shoa Kahn able to do that? I called bullshit hadrcore right there.

I like the remix of that song.


Still conveys the message nicely I think.

 

[Andy Shandy]

Sonic '06. That game was just one big, long massive conga line of WHY? I mean, just why, Sonic Team? WHY?!

 

[Hap2]

My most recent, "Why," comes from The Amazing Spider-man and involves minor spoilers regarding the ending, namely why does Peter hesitate before putting the antidote in the sort everything out machine?

Because (spoilers) the movie sucked and was made exclusively for money by people who didn't give a shit on what did and didn't make sense.

OT: I've got just the video for this occasion:

Damn Ninja'd like a pro.

A recent why question rang through the caverns of my brain was in ME3 specifically relating from the world biggest Raidan cosplayer Kai Leng.

Why did the Illusive Man spend billions of credits reviving Commander Shepard if he had Mr. Deus Ex Machina Ninja flying around with magical nin-jitsu capable to regenerate health at will stored in the reserves. Well you could say that Kai Leng has an "abrasive" (more like petulant and annoying) personality but TIM could of atleast had given him to Shepard for fighting against the Collectors. Would've helped a hell of alot more than Jacob.

The Illusive Man was not looking for a slave when he went to revive Shepard, rather, TIM was obsessive about the preservation of humanity. Shepard proved himself/herself against the reapers in the conflict with Sovereign. Leng is a good assassin, but not much of a leader, unlike Shepard.

TIM also keeps his cards close; he realized Shepard would likely turn on him, which is why he had good reason to keep somebody such as Leng waiting in the wings, just in case Shepard became a problem.

 

[Erttheking]

http://pixelsnatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mass-effect-3-extended-cut-pc-ps3-xbox-360-screenshots-2.jpg

WHY!? Why on Earth would you do this? Who thought that this was a good idea?

 

[Ham Blitz]

Spoiler: Heavy Rain spoilers

Why did Ethan black out and wake up with origami in his hand, despite having never done origami in his life, if he wasn't the Origami Killer? And how did the actual killer know to time his kidnap of Ethan's son for the exact moment when Ethan is having this blackout? I suspect the answer is 'because the writers didn't think it through'.

Spoiler: This response contains Heavy Rain Spoilers

I think the explanation for this was based off of an idea that when Ethan got in the car accident trying to save Jason and Shelby was right there, they formed a psychic link that would cause Ethan to have weird dream like sequences whenever Shelby was kidnapping a kid. This was where the whole "Bodies in the water" thing Ethan talks about would of come from. Somewhere in the middle of making the game they decided to remove that idea, and they decided instead of rewriting everything they just made it blackouts. Yes, I am aware that doesn't excuse it and it still doesn't make sense, but it might of just been that they didn't have enough time to change everything so they just left it in.
That, or they just wanted to try to make the players think Ethan did it with little explanation, just like how Shelby's thoughts sometimes act like he is actually trying to find the origami killer.

 

[Wayneguard]

Am I the only one who saw this thread and immediately thought of Keenan and Kel?

 

[IamLEAM1983]

Why does "Dream" from Myst IV exist?

Just... why?

We went from Sci-Fi Fantasy directly to New Age Music Video in less than a minute.

Because Peter Gabriel?

I'm told he had a hand in some of the two or three bigger plot decisions in the game. I think he talked with Rand Miller a couple times and got him to consider Dream as a valid plot point. Consider the fact that he contributes both a theme song and some voice-over, that he supposedly is a die-hard Myst fan and that *someone* at Cyan probably had a case of the fanboys.

All that and, well, Peter Gabriel's always been borderline transcendental. Ever since the early nineties, this has been pretty obvious in his work. There's a very "soul-search-y" aspect to what he does, now.

http://pixelsnatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/mass-effect-3-extended-cut-pc-ps3-xbox-360-screenshots-2.jpg

WHY!? Why on Earth would you do this? Who thought that this was a good idea?

Who? People who painted themselves into a corner with too many plot considerations to tie off neatly, not enough time to flesh out all the distinct ending possibilities, and the obvious need to ship a finished product.

Someone said that if you can't do something right the first time, you shouldn't try at all. I disagree. BioWare tried to respect the sheer magnitude of its own epic universe and storyline, and dropped the ball near the end. I'm disappointed, of course, but I can respect the effort they put into it as well. The fact that they released the Extended Cut DLC to begin with shows that BioWare was willing to learn from its mistakes and to try and correct them.

 

[lacktheknack]

Why does "Dream" from Myst IV exist?

Just... why?

We went from Sci-Fi Fantasy directly to New Age Music Video in less than a minute.

Because Peter Gabriel?

I'm told he had a hand in some of the two or three bigger plot decisions in the game. I think he talked with Rand Miller a couple times and got him to consider Dream as a valid plot point. Consider the fact that he contributes both a theme song and some voice-over, that he supposedly is a die-hard Myst fan and that *someone* at Cyan probably had a case of the fanboys.

All that and, well, Peter Gabriel's always been borderline transcendental. Ever since the early nineties, this has been pretty obvious in his work. There's a very "soul-search-y" aspect to what he does, now.

I mean, the song is very pretty, and I'm sure that Peter Gabriel has good ideas... this was not one of them. And I'm quite surprised he got Rand "We've Been Planning This Fantasy Sci-Fi Epic Years Before The First Game Came Out" Miller on board. I mean, did you see them try to explain how Uru works scientifically? It was a mess, but an awe-inspiring mess. Still, I'd take the "infinite parallel universes" plot point over the "you just had your soul sucked from your body" plot point any day.

 

[Johnny Impact]

Dark Knight Rises.

Why didn't the cops stuck in the sewers dig their way out using the heavy equipment Bane's army left down there?

How is it that Bane secures all of Manhattan with, like, 100 guys? Why, in a city of millions of people, is there not one gun nut sniping Bane's guys with impunity from some 37th story window, not one squad of retired Army or off-duty National Guard who would try to sabotage his forces?

Why are the Gothamites incited to instant rioting by Bane's recitation of a letter of dubious origin regarding an event that happened eight whole years ago? Why do the Gothamites listen to Bane at all? They've never heard of him before.

Why do the Blackgate inmates follow Bane immediately?

Why does Bane talk like Dracula in some scenes and like a doddering old man in others?

Why doesn't Batman think to attack Bane's one obvious vulnerable point right away, instead of after he's had seven colors of crap kicked out of him?

Why is it okay to detonate a large-scale nuclear bomb just a mile or two offshore? Why wasn't everyone killed?

And so on, and so forth.

 

[Strazdas]

In Inception why aren't they allowed to do all the cool mindbending stuff like folding the street over on top of itself when they're inside the dreams?

I mean I know why they say they shouldn't. Because then the projections will notice them in the dream and try and attack them or whatever.

But come on! You're making a movie about going inside peoples DREAMS! Why would you make up a plot point that prevents you from doing all sorts of awesome mindblowing effects that kind of setting allows and just end up doing a bunch or boring gun fights at the end?

the whole movie kind of revolved around the guy not knowing it was a dream

Every time Dawn from buffy the vampire slayer does ANYTHING.
seriously, that chick is so god damned stupid.

EDIT: Whenever she Does, Says, thinks, looks, smells, hears, touch anything

pretty much with you on that one

for me its a buffy one as well. why the hell did they change the way maic worked and suddenly out of the blue made it an addiction metaphore.

yes yes, trying to do an addiction plot arc without showing drug use but damn did that jump the shark

although darth willow did rock

oh there are many whys in buffy but its still a great show. and yes dark willow FTW. actually, any willow ftw.

 

[Vault101]

WHY!? Why on Earth would you do this? Who thought that this was a good idea?

huh whats-AAAAAAAAAGGRHR....excuse me

*BANG!*....must...*BANG!*....apply head..*BANG*...to desk..*BANG*..untill.....
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[small/]oh theres doritos in my handbag![/small]

Someone said that if you can't do something right the first time, you shouldn't try at all. I disagree. BioWare tried to respect the sheer magnitude of its own epic universe and storyline, and dropped the ball near the end. I'm disappointed, of course, but I can respect the effort they put into it as well. The fact that they released the Extended Cut DLC to begin with shows that BioWare was willing to learn from its mistakes and to try and correct them.

they didn't just drop the ball...they threw it down a 1000ft ravine

in all seriousness though, I see what you mean, I am thankful they at least did that but Iif they really were going to just say "yeah..we fucked up" they would abandoned what we got in the original game...not to mention there was a certain Idea floating around on the internet that I'm sure 99% of fans would have been happy for them to take advantage of

however I find it hard to make excuses...I'm actually pretty certain I personally could have come up with a better ending, and thats not somthing I would say lightly

 

[Vault101]

Sonic '06. That game was just one big, long massive conga line of WHY? I mean, just why, Sonic Team? WHY?!

the funny thing is there was a time where I didn't see games on the same level as other media, so I didn't think games (especially new games) could be bad

at that time I played sonic 06 for 10 mintues and thourght "fuuuuuck...that was awful" <-pretty big acheivment if you ask me

 

[IamLEAM1983]

I mean, the song is very pretty, and I'm sure that Peter Gabriel has good ideas... this was not one of them. And I'm quite surprised he got Rand "We've Been Planning This Fantasy Sci-Fi Epic Years Before The First Game Came Out" Miller on board. I mean, did you see them try to explain how Uru works scientifically? It was a mess, but an awe-inspiring mess. Still, I'd take the "infinite parallel universes" plot point over the "you just had your soul sucked from your body" plot point any day.

Oh, I agree. Been a Myst fan since day one myself (but never to the point of actually bothering to learn D'ni, shame), but you can kinda feel that Gabriel's involvement in that shape is a part of a marketing stint. I'm sure Miller had better ideas lined up, but the focus group sat down, saw the Myst franchise wasn't as chart-topping as it had been, and needed a selling point.

It's stupid, it debases the universe to a degree and seeing the Freaky Friday plot point come into being was one of the more mind-numbing stories I ever have had the pleasure of progressing through in my personal gaming history, but I'll give Revelation one point though.

Spire was freaking awesome as an Age concept. I'm just sad it had to come at the price of sacrificing the concept of corrupted Books essentially becoming voids you can be trapped in. If that retcon is to be believed, then did we provide Gehn with a cushy little lifetime prison sentence on a nice-looking Age he can't get out of, in Riven? Where is he now? The original plot point in Riven was that the player was entrusted with a modified Linking Book to D'ni - one that basically went nowhere.

 

[lacktheknack]

I mean, the song is very pretty, and I'm sure that Peter Gabriel has good ideas... this was not one of them. And I'm quite surprised he got Rand "We've Been Planning This Fantasy Sci-Fi Epic Years Before The First Game Came Out" Miller on board. I mean, did you see them try to explain how Uru works scientifically? It was a mess, but an awe-inspiring mess. Still, I'd take the "infinite parallel universes" plot point over the "you just had your soul sucked from your body" plot point any day.

Oh, I agree. Been a Myst fan since day one myself (but never to the point of actually bothering to learn D'ni, shame), but you can kinda feel that Gabriel's involvement in that shape is a part of a marketing stint. I'm sure Miller had better ideas lined up, but the focus group sat down, saw the Myst franchise wasn't as chart-topping as it had been, and needed a selling point.

It's stupid, it debases the universe to a degree and seeing the Freaky Friday plot point come into being was one of the more mind-numbing stories I ever have had the pleasure of progressing through in my personal gaming history, but I'll give Revelation one point though.

Spire was freaking awesome as an Age concept. I'm just sad it had to come at the price of sacrificing the concept of corrupted Books essentially becoming voids you can be trapped in. If that retcon is to be believed, then did we provide Gehn with a cushy little lifetime prison sentence on a nice-looking Age he can't get out of, in Riven? Where is he now? The original plot point in Riven was that the player was entrusted with a modified Linking Book to D'ni - one that basically went nowhere.

See "instancing" above. I imagine that Gehn is in a parallel universe.

Except that won't work seeing how you fell in the book yourself and were ejected. Myst is a great concept with great execution, but too much retcon.

 

[IamLEAM1983]

See "instancing" above. I imagine that Gehn is in a parallel universe.

Except that won't work seeing how you fell in the book yourself and were ejected. Myst is a great concept with great execution, but too much retcon.

Yeah. *sighs*

Fuck making sense, we've got the Art! Ri'Neref could've opened a Link to Chtulhu's hometown and fucked Gartenay completely, but he didn't! Yaaaay!

That and Yeesha somehow not needing actual Books to make a Link. And tribal-ish hand paintings substituting as valid link-in points. And Books that follow their user through the Link, augh.