The Witcher 3 Shows What It Means To Kill Monsters

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AxelxGabriel said:
So basically they want to be Game of Thrones now. Because real art is brooding and always depressing!
That has been the deal since the first game.

You literally have the ability to stop a "witch" from being executed. This isn't a new tone or anything.

OT: Fucking loved that trailer, gave me serious chills.
 

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AxelxGabriel said:
Fine then, I'll admit I didn't know that Game of Thrones came after. What still strikes me as odd is how apparently stories that make you want to kill yourself are considered "good".
They're not considered good, because they make me want to kill myself.
They make me want to kill myself and just happen to be very good stories.
 

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Found it! It was the intro to Two Worlds II And He's just as right here as he was then.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/2819-Two-Worlds-II
 

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AxelxGabriel said:
Fine then, I'll admit I didn't know that Game of Thrones came after. What still strikes me as odd is how apparently stories that make you want to kill yourself are considered "good".
Why should it be any less good than a less depressing or a happy story, huh? Like Amaror said, it just happens to be good. It's not good just because it's depressing. You might as well call it realistic because medieval times sure were gruesome. If you don't like it don't play the game. Play Skyrim I can't even imagine a more "happy" fictional world.
 

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hazydawn said:
Why should it be any less good than a less depressing or a happy story, huh? Like Amaror said, it just happens to be good. It's not good just because it's depressing. You might as well call it realistic because medieval times sure were gruesome. If you don't like it don't play the game. Play Skyrim I can't even imagine a more "happy" fictional world.
At least Skyrim was better balanced with actually moments of lighthearted and triumph. What this teaser and this article basically says is that Life only has depressing, dark and brooding moments. I would say that is just as narrow minded and naive as people would call idealists. Anyone who sees the world as being only one extreme, whether it's happy or sad, is idiotic.
 

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CD Projekt might just be the new Blizzard North. This reminds me of the best parts of the old Warcraft III and Starcraft Cinematics.
 

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AxelxGabriel said:
At least Skyrim was better balanced with actually moments of lighthearted and triumph. What this teaser and this article basically says is that Life only has depressing, dark and brooding moments. I would say that is just as narrow minded and naive as people would call idealists. Anyone who sees the world as being only one extreme, whether it's happy or sad, is idiotic.
It's not idiotic it's simply subjective. Some people enjoy rainbows, flowers, love, family etc and other's just don't give a shit about those things that make the live of others worth while. And that's easy for you to say considering the time and place(I'm just going to assume it's a rather privileged country) you live in ^^
Furthermore I wouldn't say that the Witcher didn't have it's moments of happiness and triumph.
 

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This entire concept is basically the equivalent of the Emo kid you see cutting himself and makes bad poetry about how "Life is paaaain."
 

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AxelxGabriel said:
This entire concept is basically the equivalent of the Emo kid you see cutting himself and makes bad poetry about how "Life is paaaain."
Please stop.

If you can't enjoy grimdark, then don't. Better yet, let yourself go back in time and live in feudal Europe. Come back with roses and we'll see how you do with "fun" and "rainbows".

By grimdark standards, Witcher isn't even high on the scale. It's just a shitty, old, world. 40K is grimdark, where everything is testosterone. In that game I can laugh at the game's premise and enjoy it because it's just so scoff-worthy. Witcher made me cringe at times playing it because I hated some of the characters, but not because of them being badly written, because they were fucking detestable. Most good stories aren't about happiness and enlightenment, get used to it.

OT:

I was fully ready having him walk by that without batting much of an eye honestly. Also expecting her to turn out to be something that would eat him. This one was definitely up there on the "Haha, fooled you with CUTSCENE!" when the game comes out. Calling it now.
 

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Ferisar said:
AxelxGabriel said:
This entire concept is basically the equivalent of the Emo kid you see cutting himself and makes bad poetry about how "Life is paaaain."
Please stop.

If you can't enjoy grimdark, then don't. Better yet, let yourself go back in time and live in feudal Europe. Come back with roses and we'll see how you do with "fun" and "rainbows".

By grimdark standards, Witcher isn't even high on the scale. It's just a shitty, old, world. 40K is grimdark, where everything is testosterone. In that game I can laugh at the game's premise and enjoy it because it's just so scoff-worthy. Witcher made me cringe at times playing it because I hated some of the characters, but not because of them being badly written, because they were fucking detestable. Most good stories aren't about happiness and enlightenment, get used to it.
If you think I'm going to just stop believing in my own opinion just because you said so, you're the one who needs to stop. You're still missing the point if you think I believe that idealistic of a story as you put it is something I want. What I want is a balance between light-hearted and depressing. Humorous and dark.

And yeah, 40k is stupid too with it's premise. I don't get why anyone, ANYONE likes that crap.

Most good stories aren't about being dark and depressing. YOU get used to it.
 

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The Witcher series looks so damn cool. It's a shame the control scheme and battle system are counter-intuitive and make the game much harder to actually play than it needs to be.
 

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AxelxGabriel said:
So basically they want to be Game of Thrones now. Because real art is brooding and always depressing!
Don't worry, we have Dandelion and Zoltan if things get too heavy. :3

Really looking forward to this, I should probably finish the Witcher 2 a second time though...wonder which ending is canon?
 

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Ferisar said:
AxelxGabriel said:
This entire concept is basically the equivalent of the Emo kid you see cutting himself and makes bad poetry about how "Life is paaaain."
Please stop.

If you can't enjoy grimdark, then don't. Better yet, let yourself go back in time and live in feudal Europe. Come back with roses and we'll see how you do with "fun" and "rainbows".

By grimdark standards, Witcher isn't even high on the scale. It's just a shitty, old, world. 40K is grimdark, where everything is testosterone. In that game I can laugh at the game's premise and enjoy it because it's just so scoff-worthy. Witcher made me cringe at times playing it because I hated some of the characters, but not because of them being badly written, because they were fucking detestable. Most good stories aren't about happiness and enlightenment, get used to it.

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I was fully ready having him walk by that without batting much of an eye honestly. Also expecting her to turn out to be something that would eat him. This one was definitely up there on the "Haha, fooled you with CUTSCENE!" when the game comes out. Calling it now.
I've got a feeling there'll be another video, that just shows the other option, and it will just be as extreme from the other end.
 

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They are beating a pretty woman and enjoying it. That must mean they are evil. And the woman must be innocent and pure because she is pretty.

Judge Gerult of Rividerp sentences you to DIE! *flashy action scene*

AND ALL OF THE JUSTICE HAS BEEN JUSTICED THAT DAY. 14 YEAR OLDS ALL OVER THE WORLD REJOICE.

I wish there was an extended version of this trailer where the woman turned out to be the real evil. I didn't expect to criticize The Witcher for its cliche portrayals but here I am. Who's the real monster, Geralt? Oh that's right, you didn't smile while cruelly murdering those men, which indicates that you didn't like it therefore it's totally okay. Must be why you took the time and set up a noose instead of putting the guy out of his misery. Because you SO hate what you're doing, but this will serve as a good example to .

Fuckin Witcher, man. SO DEEP


Who wants to bet that he's gonna bang that chick later? See, in a normal fairy tale, they'd just kiss and ride into the sunset or something. But The Witcher is dark and gritty so they bang.
Wow. A reply about as edgy as the trailer itself. Way to raise the bar.

OT: Enjoyed the trailer, but it was still a CG trailer. Want to see some gameplay based around monster hunting.
 

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Twenty Ninjas said:
They are beating a pretty woman and enjoying it. That must mean they are evil. And the woman must be innocent and pure because she is pretty.

Judge Gerult of Rividerp sentences you to DIE! *flashy action scene*

AND ALL OF THE JUSTICE HAS BEEN JUSTICED THAT DAY. 14 YEAR OLDS ALL OVER THE WORLD REJOICE.

I wish there was an extended version of this trailer where the woman turned out to be the real evil. I didn't expect to criticize The Witcher for its cliche portrayals but here I am. Who's the real monster, Geralt? Oh that's right, you didn't smile while cruelly murdering those men, which indicates that you didn't like it therefore it's totally okay. Must be why you took the time and set up a noose instead of putting the guy out of his misery. Because you SO hate what you're doing, but this will serve as a good example to .

Fuckin Witcher, man. SO DEEP


Who wants to bet that he's gonna bang that chick later? See, in a normal fairy tale, they'd just kiss and ride into the sunset or something. But The Witcher is dark and gritty so they bang.
I guess it's easy to overlook he stopped to intervene because of the needles cruelty. It is a trait you can enhance Geralt with in the games.
 

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MUH JUSTICE.
Seriously, this was a bad trailer, terribad in fact. First of all it's putting this moral binary on the game, black and white when everything related to morality is grey and subjective and secondly it just shouts 'UBER L33T BADASS HERO SAVING POOR INNOCENT GIRL AND KILLING DA EBIL PEOPLE'. This is so testosterone filled you could use it as a low rent steroid, fucking terrible.
 

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AxelxGabriel said:
Ferisar said:
AxelxGabriel said:
This entire concept is basically the equivalent of the Emo kid you see cutting himself and makes bad poetry about how "Life is paaaain."
Please stop.

If you can't enjoy grimdark, then don't. Better yet, let yourself go back in time and live in feudal Europe. Come back with roses and we'll see how you do with "fun" and "rainbows".

By grimdark standards, Witcher isn't even high on the scale. It's just a shitty, old, world. 40K is grimdark, where everything is testosterone. In that game I can laugh at the game's premise and enjoy it because it's just so scoff-worthy. Witcher made me cringe at times playing it because I hated some of the characters, but not because of them being badly written, because they were fucking detestable. Most good stories aren't about happiness and enlightenment, get used to it.
If you think I'm going to just stop believing in my own opinion just because you said so, you're the one who needs to stop. You're still missing the point if you think I believe that idealistic of a story as you put it is something I want. What I want is a balance between light-hearted and depressing. Humorous and dark.

And yeah, 40k is stupid too with it's premise. I don't get why anyone, ANYONE likes that crap.

Most good stories aren't about being dark and depressing. YOU get used to it.
They are. Most compelling literature has nothing to do with happiness. The Witcher has a contrast. It has always had a contrast. It has humor if you know how to look for it, too. If you can't appreciate the setting, I have an easy solution: don't play the game. Better yet, seeing as you aren't playing the game, don't complain about a game you seem to know nothing about outside of its trailers.

I never asked you to stop believing your own opinion, I said to stop expressing it on the same mental level as you seem to claim this trailer to be. Most people, even the devs, appreciate criticism. What you've been doing so far isn't actual critique, it just seems like weird, misplaced anger at thin air.

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Had to address the 40k thing: people like it for the same reason people like over-the-top silly. It's in on the joke. It knows it's dark for the sake of being dark, that's what makes it entertaining. It's definitely not everyone's cup of tea, but a universe where everything is shit piled with shit, on the mountain of crap while shit is being flung down forming a shitalanche, it's pretty obvious what's going on.