The world of Pokemon is awful.

Wondermint13

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Pinch of salt guys... Pinch of salt...

I dont think the OP had any intention of ruining your Pokemon fantasies.. He said he was an original fan y'know..
 

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WanderingBiscuits said:
Like most people have already said "Its a game"
Its made for fun. Its not meant to be a functioning society in every aspect, otherwise the games would be dull.
Dull?! If it's dull why is this post discussing the Pokemon universe and making inquiries on how it might exist? I'd love to know how the society works! What's in the background that makes it function? What's the culture like? It's obviously very advanced yet it sends children out on their own to capture powerful creatures at the age of ten (or twelve or whatever). To know how the Pokemon world works would be fascinating!
 

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Good thing it's not trying to be an immersive, story-focused game then!

Dear god. I think Pokemon should cut out all it's dialogue, honestly.
 

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Okay, so I love Pokemon, the classic Pokemon games anyway (I just don't have the patience to "catch 'em all" given the sheer number of the things these days), and I had a little competition with a mate to see who could write the least-pokemon-related Pokemon fanfic.

Needless to say, it didn't work out so well. And I honestly think it's because the world of Pokemon is a terribly shallow place. Think about this:

- All children are pretty much expected to wander the earth alone capturing wild animals and getting into fights from the tender age of 12.

- All the very best and brightest scientists are all dedicated to researching Pokemon, and nothing else it seems.

- All crime is related to Pokemon. The two largest crime syndicates on the planet are both dedicated to getting all the pokemon, and somehow making money off of them.

- All hospitals are for Pokemon. There are no doctors, only nurses that work at automated healing stations.

- Everything, and I mean Everything is dedicated to Pokemon, I think the only shop not outright selling Pokemon items is the bike shop, and possibly the "casino".

- Fighting with these things is so ingrained that if you happen to have one on your person, no matter how badly sick and/or injured they or you may be, if another trainer sees you, you have to fight them. And if you lose, they have the right to rob you blind.

Given all these things, it's damn near impossible to write a story set in this world, about a character who isn't obsessed with them. Where are the people who make the cogs turn in the world? The accountants handling all the money that moves from trainer-to-trainer and making sure the [Weird symbol] stays fairly uninflated? Where are the builders and maintainers? Where is the freaking government?.

Hell, where are the farmers, the food distributors, the poor bastards who have to stand at a counter every day and bag groceries? Do they just eat pokemon?

As a world, it just doesn't work.

Edit: Gee, sorry for stepping on all your little fanboy toes people. I didn't know this was such serious business.
Ever notice the first town has three houses and a laboratory? Yet you see f-ten people walking everywhere?

In a game where you don't need to be healed, a hospital won't exist unless it's in the plot. In a game where science is already pretty fucking snazzy, you don't really need it. They have teleportation panels!!!

The out the basic required elements in the game and leave the rest out. You can walk from the Legendary Road to your home town in a day, and you can bike it in about ten minutes. The game isn't meant to be realistic, but fit the confines of the game.

I'm sure you could find examples in other areas.


Oh, and I'm not a fan boy, just speaking frankly about my own observations
 

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henrius said:
WanderingBiscuits said:
Like most people have already said "Its a game"
Its made for fun. Its not meant to be a functioning society in every aspect, otherwise the games would be dull.
Dull?! If it's dull why is this post discussing the Pokemon universe and making inquiries on how it might exist? I'd love to know how the society works! What's in the background that makes it function? What's the culture like? It's obviously very advanced yet it sends children out on their own to capture powerful creatures at the age of ten (or twelve or whatever). To know how the Pokemon world works would be fascinating!
Yes it would be dull. Do you really want to know about the accounting section of the pokemon world? Or their system of government and policies? I think what they cover in the games is the right part to focus on.
 

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TheRealCJ said:
Okay, so I love Pokemon, the classic Pokemon games anyway (I just don't have the patience to "catch 'em all" given the sheer number of the things these days), and I had a little competition with a mate to see who could write the least-pokemon-related Pokemon fanfic.

Needless to say, it didn't work out so well. And I honestly think it's because the world of Pokemon is a terribly shallow place. Think about this:

- All children are pretty much expected to wander the earth alone capturing wild animals and getting into fights from the tender age of 12.

- All the very best and brightest scientists are all dedicated to researching Pokemon, and nothing else it seems.

- All crime is related to Pokemon. The two largest crime syndicates on the planet are both dedicated to getting all the pokemon, and somehow making money off of them.

- All hospitals are for Pokemon. There are no doctors, only nurses that work at automated healing stations.

- Everything, and I mean Everything is dedicated to Pokemon, I think the only shop not outright selling Pokemon items is the bike shop, and possibly the "casino".

- Fighting with these things is so ingrained that if you happen to have one on your person, no matter how badly sick and/or injured they or you may be, if another trainer sees you, you have to fight them. And if you lose, they have the right to rob you blind.

Given all these things, it's damn near impossible to write a story set in this world, about a character who isn't obsessed with them. Where are the people who make the cogs turn in the world? The accountants handling all the money that moves from trainer-to-trainer and making sure the [Weird symbol] stays fairly uninflated? Where are the builders and maintainers? Where is the freaking government?.

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dude, you want to know how horrible the world of pokemon REALLY is? read this:http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5004667/1/A_History_in_Progress

This actually explains where pokemon came from, and it. is. terrifying.
 

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TheRealCJ said:
- All children are pretty much expected to wander the earth alone capturing wild animals and getting into fights from the tender age of 12.
Actually its ten. They make you a MAN in that world.

Anyway, its not that hard. If you combined a Nuzlocke run with my childhood, that would have been the pokemon world. Then again, i wasnt the average 10 year old.

Besides, we just see it as ash's perspective. How od you know that he's not the retarded kid and everyone else goes through militaristic training to be hardcore and self sufficient.
 

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I always imagine pokemon is set in a post-apocalyptic dystopian future, where the countryside has been so irradiated that there are no normal animals left - everything is a monster trying to kill you. Outside of the few remaining towns, every person on the road is a bandit trying to assault you with monsters, beat you up, and take your money. The crime syndicates are simply the bandits writ large. It's a grim and gritty wasteland where society only functions because they had to control the monsters or die, hence the 100% pokemon-obsessed culture the OP observes.

Actually that sounds like a fun game, I want to play it for real.
 

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TheRealCJ said:
If you examine pretty much any fictional universe it's a fucking horrible place to live. Imagine living in the Marvel or DC universes, everyday of the week someone is destroying everything.
 

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Cenequus said:
It's a freaking japanese game,of course most npcs are 10 yr old kids. You could write the same post about any game or even anime. Dunno why you seem so shocked lol,unless you're just trolling.
I don't know about that, take Final Fantasy. Any game...VIII for example. It seems to work as a self sustaining world. There certainly is a government. Not much of a financial system, but one wouldn't need one as long as they have pockets. True monsters attack you if you leave the confines of a city, but they're wild animals, so it doesn't seem completely unreasonable.

Actually, that last part spits on Darwin.

Also, the protagonists are in their 20s and have all had some kind of education.
 

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TheRealCJ said:
Okay, so I love Pokemon, the classic Pokemon games anyway (I just don't have the patience to "catch 'em all" given the sheer number of the things these days), and I had a little competition with a mate to see who could write the least-pokemon-related Pokemon fanfic.

Needless to say, it didn't work out so well. And I honestly think it's because the world of Pokemon is a terribly shallow place. Think about this:

- All children are pretty much expected to wander the earth alone capturing wild animals and getting into fights from the tender age of 12.

- All the very best and brightest scientists are all dedicated to researching Pokemon, and nothing else it seems.

- All crime is related to Pokemon. The two largest crime syndicates on the planet are both dedicated to getting all the pokemon, and somehow making money off of them.

- All hospitals are for Pokemon. There are no doctors, only nurses that work at automated healing stations.

- Everything, and I mean Everything is dedicated to Pokemon, I think the only shop not outright selling Pokemon items is the bike shop, and possibly the "casino".

- Fighting with these things is so ingrained that if you happen to have one on your person, no matter how badly sick and/or injured they or you may be, if another trainer sees you, you have to fight them. And if you lose, they have the right to rob you blind.

Given all these things, it's damn near impossible to write a story set in this world, about a character who isn't obsessed with them. Where are the people who make the cogs turn in the world? The accountants handling all the money that moves from trainer-to-trainer and making sure the [Weird symbol] stays fairly uninflated? Where are the builders and maintainers? Where is the freaking government?.

Hell, where are the farmers, the food distributors, the poor bastards who have to stand at a counter every day and bag groceries? Do they just eat pokemon?

As a world, it just doesn't work.

Edit: Gee, sorry for stepping on all your little fanboy toes people. I didn't know this was such serious business.
obvious troll is obvious

dude, just let it be. it's a skinner box and its a JRPG. the fans will take anything inexplicably implausible up the ass for as long as the series runs

(i know i do. i fucking love me some pokemon with my friends!)
 

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xedobubble said:
I always imagine pokemon is set in a post-apocalyptic dystopian future, where the countryside has been so irradiated that there are no normal animals left - everything is a monster trying to kill you. Outside of the few remaining towns, every person on the road is a bandit trying to assault you with monsters, beat you up, and take your money. The crime syndicates are simply the bandits writ large. It's a grim and gritty wasteland where society only functions because they had to control the monsters or die, hence the 100% pokemon-obsessed culture the OP observes.

Actually that sounds like a fun game, I want to play it for real.
If they'd cut out the cartoony visuals, I'd be for that too. Also, they should stop advertising: "Gotta catch 'em all!" Because it insults my grammar, and my intelligence.
 

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Actually I can see the reason in this, maybe the pokemon craze is limited to the islands shown in the games and elsewhere in the world are the 'Real' people.
 

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It gets worse

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/03/03/letters-to-an-absent-father-mare-odomo-pokemon-comic/

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/03/15/weirdest-pokemon-black-white/
 

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And in how many games does your character go on for days on end, succeeding at a grand adventure without food, bathroom breaks or sleep? Hell, I'm still wondering why Chell doesn't collapse from hunger and dehydration in Portal 2. You're wandering that facility for a long time and from the looks of it, Rattman's eaten all of the canned goods.

I agree that at face value, the Pokemon world is an absurd one. But just think: If they were real, they'd probably think us mad for making dog and cock fights illegal.

What's funny to me is how the Pokemon trainers (on the TV show at least) display obvious concern when their Pokemon are injured, but still send them out there to get the crap beat out of them. Things might be different if Pokemon actually shed blood/lost chunks of flesh when they fight.
 

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Dizeazedkiller said:
So...your point? It's still fun. I play it still. Mostly for nostalgic reasons. You can argue as much as you want the merits and flaws of it either which way, in the end most people won't care because they enjoy the game anyways. And in the end I think that's all that matters.
 

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One thing that has always bugged me about Pokemon is Cubone.

It wears the skull of its dead mother? How the hell does that work? Do the mothers turn into Hydras just before they die? Are there massive groups of Skull-less Cubones that we never see?
 

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So you noticed that the world of pokemon makes no logical sense.

You can now join the club of people who have existed from 1997 onwards.
 

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WanderingBiscuits said:
henrius said:
WanderingBiscuits said:
Like most people have already said "Its a game"
Its made for fun. Its not meant to be a functioning society in every aspect, otherwise the games would be dull.
Dull?! If it's dull why is this post discussing the Pokemon universe and making inquiries on how it might exist? I'd love to know how the society works! What's in the background that makes it function? What's the culture like? It's obviously very advanced yet it sends children out on their own to capture powerful creatures at the age of ten (or twelve or whatever). To know how the Pokemon world works would be fascinating!
Yes it would be dull. Do you really want to know about the accounting section of the pokemon world? Or their system of government and policies? I think what they cover in the games is the right part to focus on.
In essence it's a game for children. Your personified as a 10 year old out to catch cute and cool creatures in a fun, simple universe. It's a fun game but really doesn't have that much depth. I feel some people took the original poster's Poke-universe exploration way to seriously and even personally, with how hostile some comments were. What the game focuses on right now is best for most especially its target audience but this is just a forum where we can speculate on how it all works, I'm not asking for it in a future game (though I wouldn't mind).

I apologize for the "Dull?!" earlier like you were stupid or something.

Their system of government and policies? I would love to know how it all works! Would you really not want to know? The accounting I'll pass on.