xmetatr0nx said:
The way I see it is that the president is just the countries scape goat at this point.
My country(china) and our government probably gets more resentment from americans then Bush does.
Not really. Hardly anyone talks about China where I live. However I hear at least one bad Bush Joke each day.
Seriously, it's like he's the anti-christ.
Well i dont want to join the choir, but his administration is even blamed a lot by the same people who put him there, the GOP. Did you see how far they kept bush away from any of macains rallys? Its like they wanted to pretend the man never existed. His policies did fically fuck a lot of things over. The details are too boring and long to really get into on this forum, but a lot of the hatred he has caused is justifiable.
See, had he only been that bad for the first ... 4 years, it would be so bad. But never changed. Never. He continued to misspeak, he continued to say nothing was his fault, and he never acknowledged problems going on. Had he changed to appear to be more intelligent, more constrained and more aware, people wouldn't give him shit.
I give his administration shit. They are the ones who never did anything to help change his image or to help him period. They all executed their own agendas that left him having to answer the tough questions. However, he appointed these people (made up of mostly old friends and GOP constituents) and then did nothing to take responsibility for them, so he's equally at fault there.
He may have been a compassionate, nice guy, but he didn't surround himself with them. And when you consciously surround yourself with corrupt morons, you turn out looking like a corrupt moron.
Flying-Emu said:
This is just a shot in the dark, but it might be the fact that he approved an economic "cure" involving spending ridiculous sums of money and lowering taxes.
Step One: Lower revenue and increase spending.
Step Two: ???
Step Three: Profit!
That's the basis of his so-called economic plan. The man apparently fell asleep during the first day of Economics 101, since the first thing that's taught is "You can't spend money you don't have."
Oh, the whole "We can borrow the money" thing. Yeah, we tried that. At <4 trillion dollars of a national deficit, it's obviously worked so far.
Wow, uh, I'd say you fell asleep in Economics 101.
It's not a principle of spending more money vs taxation. The US has been spending 230% above the taxation rate for decades. Economic stimulus plans have been used to jumpstart economies for centuries.
The crux of the entire episode is how we balance the budget in future years to reduce the deficit. We were on course for that during Clinton's administration (although Clinton wasn't the main factor in doing that). We even had surpluses after doing it four different times in our history.
7 trillion dollars is a lot of money, but we're also not living in 1989 anymore. With inflation and dollar reduction and other factors, it's like spending 1 trillion dollars in 1990. I don't disagree that it may be too much, just that saying that Obama's the primary driver behind all the spending is pretty much stupid considering that the Republicans preposed a slightly less amount at $4 trillion and no one said or paid attention to that.
