The worst idea Mankind ever had?

[JokerGrin]

You don't have to believe in everything a religion says.

For example, as long as you try to live good and behave properly, you can consider yourself a Christian. Even if you do not go to the church every week and so on.

Oh, and Buddhism is very forgiving. Because it's technically not a religion per se, unless you believe that Buddha is a god now after he died.

Interesting. I've always tried to be good and behave, excepting alcohol, tobacco and sex out of wedlock. I've never purposefully been in a fight or anything. My fiancee told me there's a "bit of buddhist in you" when I caught a fly to take it outside rather than just whacking it with a newspaper. That made me think a bit. Maybe I should do some reading up on Buddhism. Thank you for the chat Abedeus, appreciated. I'll stop spamming up the thread now.

 

[Helnurath]

Americas armed forces
i understand wat they are doing in the middle east, but all we see in england is "american tank shoots english journalists" and "america bombs church while wedding is going on because of maybe a terrorist"

Damn, as soon as I saw the title I thought procreating. But max got there first.
Plus religion. Not soo much for the deaths it has caused but more for the way it makes people act. I hate all religions equally as they are all fucking retarded.

religion boils down to basic human insticts - dont hurt people in any way
if its retarded to be human, feel free

p.s. i hope this isnt going to turn into another religion thread

Of course, they leave out all the good stuff, nobody wants to hear the good news.

and as for religion, Brian Welch said it best;"Who cares whos right? Its time to see religion die!"

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Thanks. I'm not a religious person, in fact, I'm one of the least religious people I've ever seen. I just hate when ignorant people are spreading lies based on misinformation, TV propaganda and the voices in the head.

No no, that's fine. I'm a Christian, and Cuddly Tomato is an atheist (I'm pretty sure I remember him saying that at one point), but we both agree that people should have the right to believe what they want without theophobes telling them how silly they are for believing in a God/gods and/or being part of a religious group.
Can't we all just get along?

I am not really an atheist... or maybe I am... I don't know. I believe in life being somehow seperate from physical laws and somehow being "above" pure matter. I believe in spirituality and that people can be connected to something more than just physical reality. However I don't believe in an omnipotent god.

Having said that I will always defend the rights of others to believe that, and never think any less of anyone for believing that. If I did think less of people for having differences in creed, colour, or religion I would add myself to this thread as one of mankinds mistakes.

and as for religion, Brian Welch said it best;"Who cares whos right? Its time to see religion die!"

I hope that some day such words will be as frowned upon as when people who say things like "it's time to see homosexuality die!", because the only real difference between the statements is the target of them. They are both just spewing blind hate towards a group of people merely for being different in a way that the speaker doesn't like.

 

[Abedeus]

You don't have to believe in everything a religion says.

For example, as long as you try to live good and behave properly, you can consider yourself a Christian. Even if you do not go to the church every week and so on.

Oh, and Buddhism is very forgiving. Because it's technically not a religion per se, unless you believe that Buddha is a god now after he died.

Interesting. I've always tried to be good and behave, excepting alcohol, tobacco and sex out of wedlock. I've never purposefully been in a fight or anything. My fiancee told me there's a "bit of buddhist in you" when I caught a fly to take it outside rather than just whacking it with a newspaper. That made me think a bit. Maybe I should do some reading up on Buddhism. Thank you for the chat Abedeus, appreciated. I'll stop spamming up the thread now.

No problem, the pleasure is mine. Glad to help someone choose a path.

I was thinking of going Buddhist, but in a country where over 94% is Catholic, the rest is Muslim/Jewish/Atheist, it's really hard. And we have the most % of people practicing regularly - 44.2, the highest in Europe. Although this might be inaccurate, because they also count people that were baptised, but later changed religion.

 

[Hunde Des Krieg]

Biological Warfare....

 

[new_age_reject]

Well it's both sides of the spectrum, religion is supposed to be about love and forgiveness and the emotion of hate, all bad things. If everybody liked everyone pretty much the same, it would be great.

If religion is about love and forgiveness, then how is that bad?

I fully agree that we all should just get along, but I find it odd coming from somebody who just suggested that something over 4 billion people in the world are a part of (religion in general) is one of the worst things ever. I'm sure those people wouldn't appreciate the remark.

Can't we all just get along?

Well actually, it's not the religion that is bad, it's the people that spoil it. Ok a great deal of good things have come from it but there are also massive flaws in every system and each religion has had followers who have committed such atrocious acts of hate and violence.

 

[mattttherman3]

Well, Nuclear weapons.

 

[Sewer Rat]

MTV, and cybersex/sexting/phonesex... Whats the point?!
And lets not forget the nuclear bomb

 

[Baby Tea]

Well actually, it's not the religion that is bad, it's the people that spoil it. Ok a great deal of good things have come from it but there are also massive flaws in every system and each religion has had followers who have committed such atrocious acts of hate and violence.

I don't disagree, but I would say this: Religion isn't the cause of so much suffering, but rather merely a catalyst. People used it as an excuse to do terrible things, sure, but if religion wasn't there they would have used some other excuse to kill people or hurt people. At what point do we finally just blame the people, rather then the excuses they used?

 

[Hunde Des Krieg]

Gosh, so many uninformed and depressing posts in this thread. I feel obliged to debunk!

1.Nuclear- God, the amount of good this has done. Think of everything that involves radiation! That's Microwaves, radiography, radiotherapy, a whole shitload of knowledge about space, remote controls, more advanced heating and lighting. Nuclear power. Nuclear Fusion on Earth by 2025 (I think that was the prediction).

And we get Nuclear bombs on the side. So what? It can easily be argued that they have stopped wars and ushered in a new age of piece among those who have them.

2.Religion- Well, there have been wars in the name of Religion, but a lot of our early scientific discoveries were made by monks and other devout people. They also made large (Sometimes false) contributions to medicine and education. Literacy and the printing press can both be traced back to religion. As can communism.

3.Communism- What is everyone's problem with communism? Sure, it hasn't worked yet, but it hasn't been genuinely implemented yet, has it? Jeez, the amount of hate on it you'd think it was some kind of disease. Stop following the crowd and stop listening to the propaganda.

Microwaves originated from microwave radar, not nuclear science.

 

[AtlasShrugged]

So many choices for this topic, but I suppose communism and what it has done embodies the worst things that have happened to humans and the fact it keeps on appealing to people despite its disastrous history.

Um, excuse me. Communism is not bad, the people who have tried to put it into action are bad. Get a nice enough dude in a red hat, and I think we could have a nice communist society. (And also geez, are you stuck in the sixties?)

 

[Baby Tea]

For example, as long as you try to live good and behave properly, you can consider yourself a Christian. Even if you do not go to the church every week and so on.

What?
I mean, really? As a Christian, I've gotta disagree. This isn't a 'I don't like you because you're different!' post, this is a 'you've got it wrong' post.

See, the big part of Christianity is, go figure, Christ. You know, Jesus? The messiah and focus of the Christian faith? While Bruxy Cavy might be content to spout junk about being anti-traditionalist, and evangelical churches might be spinning my faith by saying that 'it's a relationship, it's not religion!' crap, they both will still freely admit that Christ, and His teaching in scripture are pretty important when it comes to being a Christian.

If you're just 'trying to live good' and 'behave properly' and believe in God, you're agnostic. Christian presumes some faith or believe or ties with Christ, hence Christian.

And I'm not trying to be rude or mean or anything, but it's just a matter of what it is, and what it isn't.

 

[AkJay]

A Bad Idea.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

Marmite flavored crisps.

 

[Grand_Poohbah]

According to man by the name Jared Diamond, the worst mistake in human history was the creation of agriculture. http://www.environnement.ens.fr/perso/claessen/agriculture/mistake_jared_diamond.pdf (PDF file).

 

[Virus017]

Give me one credible reason (apart from your religious books that have no known origin) that you can prove a god exists. And I don't want any of that "there must be something out there" crap, I want a concrete answer. I'm willing to accept a god if people can prove it but as far as I'm concerned people shouldn't devote their lives to a certain god, plus think of your chance of being wrong with the number of religions out there.

And yes, religion does cause more deaths than communism. I don't know how people came to that conclusion, but religion has attributed itself to many wars before the 20th century.

 

[Fingolfin High-King of the Noldor]

Genocide.

 

[Crushed Fate]

I'm afraid I have not read the list of ideas and suggestions for the worst idea mankind has ever could up with, however I bet these have already been thrown on the table:
Nuclear Weapons / Weapons of Mass Destruction
Religion
Sexual Abuse
Racism / Discrimination

All of which have some good arguing points but ultimately 3 of these 4 aren't ideas. One day somebody didn't have the bright idea of raping somebody, rape has been with mankind from before we were mankind. The same is true for religion and discrimination. Weapons of Mass Destruction are just as inevitable. Any species which has tool making skills and a dislike for something else will use a tool to be more competent in battle.

The worst idea mankind ever had was to think that the planets resources were limitless. Even when we knew they weren't limitless we, as a species, did nothing about it. We continued to consume with reckless abandon and we have done it for thousands of years. World War 3 won't be about WMDs, religion, politics or discrimination. It will be the ancient reason for war, they have something you want. The difference then will be that there isn't much of that resource left.

Perhaps it would be best if some hostile alien race turns us all into slaves, because at least then as a species we might survive.

 

[Hunde Des Krieg]

I'm afraid I have not read the list of ideas and suggestions for the worst idea mankind has ever could up with, however I bet these have already been thrown on the table:
Nuclear Weapons / Weapons of Mass Destruction
Religion
Sexual Abuse
Racism / Discrimination

All of which have some good arguing points but ultimately 3 of these 4 aren't ideas. One day somebody didn't have the bright idea of raping somebody, rape has been with mankind from before we were mankind. The same is true for religion and discrimination. Weapons of Mass Destruction are just as inevitable. Any species which has tool making skills and a dislike for something else will use a tool to be more competent in battle.

The worst idea mankind ever had was to think that the planets resources were limitless. Even when we knew they weren't limitless we, as a species, did nothing about it. We continued to consume with reckless abandon and we have done it for thousands of years. World War 3 won't be about WMDs, religion, politics or discrimination. It will be the ancient reason for war, they have something you want. The difference then will be that there isn't much of that resource left.

Perhaps it would be best if some hostile alien race turns us all into slaves, because at least then as a species we might survive.

Well the Idea that the planet's resources aren't unlimited didn't really catch on until like 50 years ago, and people still don't seem to accept it.

 

[wlaidler]

If it's an idea then a cure for cancer

Think about it one in three people die of cancer and seeing as the world is already over populated imagen how bad things would be if there were 33% more of us, maybe this is just natures way of curbing the population.

A little off topic but if you think being gay isn't a choice then maybe thats natures of lowering the population aswell.