There Will Likely Never be Another Xbox One Exclusive

[Fhqwhgod]

This seems rather damning for Xbox as a long term brand. Is there still any point in buying them?

You'd be surprised how many gamers prefer consoles for ease of use.

 

[nickpy]

The thing is (and I have already disabled it all manually plus a sweep by spybot anti-beacon for good measure) that microsoft added all of the spying to windows 7/8/8.1 so you do need to be proactive on those as well.

Yes and no. Its true they've added some extra telemetry stuff to Win7/8, but most of those updates are marked as optional so they never get installed unless you specifically tell it to do so, and in any case all telemetry in Win7/8 is tied to the Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP) which is a single check-box to switch off, and more importantly is off by default anyway. As I do not participate in CEIP, I have made a point of not installing the relevant updates as that's just using up space unnecessarily, but ultimately no harm is done by installing them if you have CEIP switched off.

Thank you for the heads up. I know some optional updates (besides the Windows 10 updater) were moved over to the recommended section. None of the telemetry updates made their way over there, it is still all good?

OK, I just unhid the updates, and this is what happened:

• 
  [li]KB2952664 - Telemetry Updates for CEIP - marked as Important and pre-ticked.[/li]
  [li]KB2952664 - Telemetry Updates for CEIP - marked as Optional and not pre-ticked. Not a typo: the same KB number appeears twice.[/li]
  [li]KB3021917 - Telemetry Updates for CEIP - marked as Important but not pre-ticked.[/li]
  [li]KB3035583 - The Get Windows 10 / GWX nagware - marked as Important and pre-ticked.[/li]
  [li]KB3123862 - Adds Win10 nagware to Windows Update - marked as Important and pre-ticked.[/li]
  [li]KB3138612 - Windows Update update which adds Win10 related stuff - marked as Important and pre-ticked.[/li]
  [li]KB3173040 - End of free upgrade offer notification nagware - Marked as Important but not pre-ticked.[/li]

I don't really know what to say; at the time they were first released, the CEIP updates where all optional and that's how I remember them, but it looks like MS has decided to change that. I am very puzzled about 2952664 appearing twice though, one optional and one not.

Nevertheless, if you don't use CEIP and don't intend to upgrade to Win10, you can quite safely remove/hide all these updates. The CEIP updates won't do you any harm apart from use up space on your HDD though, provided you have CEIP switched off, which it should be by default. You can check this by searching for "Change Customer Experience Improvement Program settings" in the start menu - you then get an extremely simple opt-in/opt-out dialogue window.

Also worth noting that if you use Microsoft Office there is a seperate CEIP setting for that, which is on by default. In Office 2010 (the one I use) you can disable it within File -> Options -> Trust Center -> Trust Center Settings -> Privacy Options -> "Sign up for the Customer Experience Improvement Program" check box.

 

[Saulkar]

The thing is (and I have already disabled it all manually plus a sweep by spybot anti-beacon for good measure) that microsoft added all of the spying to windows 7/8/8.1 so you do need to be proactive on those as well.

Yes and no. Its true they've added some extra telemetry stuff to Win7/8, but most of those updates are marked as optional so they never get installed unless you specifically tell it to do so, and in any case all telemetry in Win7/8 is tied to the Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP) which is a single check-box to switch off, and more importantly is off by default anyway. As I do not participate in CEIP, I have made a point of not installing the relevant updates as that's just using up space unnecessarily, but ultimately no harm is done by installing them if you have CEIP switched off.

Thank you for the heads up. I know some optional updates (besides the Windows 10 updater) were moved over to the recommended section. None of the telemetry updates made their way over there, it is still all good?

OK, I just unhid the updates, and this is what happened:

• 
  [li]KB2952664 - Telemetry Updates for CEIP - marked as Important and pre-ticked.[/li]
  [li]KB2952664 - Telemetry Updates for CEIP - marked as Optional and not pre-ticked. Not a typo: the same KB number appeears twice.[/li]
  [li]KB3021917 - Telemetry Updates for CEIP - marked as Important but not pre-ticked.[/li]
  [li]KB3035583 - The Get Windows 10 / GWX nagware - marked as Important and pre-ticked.[/li]
  [li]KB3123862 - Adds Win10 nagware to Windows Update - marked as Important and pre-ticked.[/li]
  [li]KB3138612 - Windows Update update which adds Win10 related stuff - marked as Important and pre-ticked.[/li]
  [li]KB3173040 - End of free upgrade offer notification nagware - Marked as Important but not pre-ticked.[/li]

I don't really know what to say; at the time they were first released, the CEIP updates where all optional and that's how I remember them, but it looks like MS has decided to change that. I am very puzzled about 2952664 appearing twice though, one optional and one not.

Nevertheless, if you don't use CEIP and don't intend to upgrade to Win10, you can quite safely remove/hide all these updates. The CEIP updates won't do you any harm apart from use up space on your HDD though, provided you have CEIP switched off, which it should be by default. You can check this by searching for "Change Customer Experience Improvement Program settings" in the start menu - you then get an extremely simple opt-in/opt-out dialogue window.

Also worth noting that if you use Microsoft Office there is a seperate CEIP setting for that, which is on by default. In Office 2010 (the one I use) you can disable it within File -> Options -> Trust Center -> Trust Center Settings -> Privacy Options -> "Sign up for the Customer Experience Improvement Program" check box.

Thanks for all your effort. I am going to double check all of those updates as some have unhid multiple times on their own before, looking at you KB3035583, ya ass.

 

[Hiddelgreyk]

*snip*

Wait what? How can you struggle to run Terraria if it /was/ capable of playing Deus Ex? If I had to hazard a guess I would say that something is /seriously/ wrong with your PC, not a lack of optimization. I don't mean that aggressively, I just think putting it down to optimization is going to cause you issues later on.

Hey, no offense taken
As far as I know, my friend didn't remove any hardware parts (except for the hard drive).
We then set it up at my place (install my old hard drive, format, install Win7) and he installed "Glary Utilities", which defragments my hard drive on bootup. In terms of drivers, I simply let Steam search for drivers for my system, installed that, and that was that.

Terraria does run, but I'm pretty sure it never even reaches a stable 30 FPS. As soon as I disable frameskipping, it runs like "Terraria:Underwater Edition".
AVG didn't detect anything, but it is outdated, as is my whole system (since, you know, no internet anymore).
Could be a virus I caught somehow, sure.

 

[MHR]

If there's no halo porting, there's no Xbox on PC, and all their hollow corporate-speak is empty lip service.

And this integrated system has raised nothing but red flags since we've heard of it. Devs despise it, and this obvious attempt at a system monopoly can't be good for the consumer.