There's a girl... that old chestnut

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sparten042

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XHolySmokesX said:
sparten042 said:
thanks for the help, im set on doing it tomorrow, and im going for it, but do you think striding up to her in the middle of school sling er dwn on my arm salsa style and asking her on a date is a bit too much? :L lol
to be honest with you... yes, probably very well.

it's normally the over the top stuff that you need balls of steel to do that get the girl, especially so if you do it in a way that tells her you know what your doing and it doesn't bother you what others might think, because your in control of yourself.

so as much as you might not have expected me to say this, and i will say it again; Yes, that probably will work very well.
i was only being sarcastic but i dont know now i guess i'll think about, anyway thanks everyone for the advice im gonna hit the hay now and get up early tomorrow, probably walk to college with her, but you'll have the results tomorrow, thanks again everyone !
 

Biodeamon

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I think you should just get bring up the courage to ask her. good luck is all i can really say...
 

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artanis_neravar said:
thelonewolf266 said:
Ask her out soon the friend zone is real and it sucks.
That's all I've got sorry.
Also this should probably be in the advice section.
The friend zone is just something made up by guys when a girl they have liked for a while rejects them, they just don't want to accept that she doesn't like him that way. If a girl sees you as a potential partner then that isn't going to change just because you are friends with her, yes she may focus her attention elsewhere or give up hope but those things that drew her attention to you in the first place will always be there. So that "I don't want to ruin our friendship" line stems from one of several possibilities, either she doesn't have any attraction to you and never has, she is scared that a relationship with you won't last, she is more attracted to someone else or she is legitimately worried that a relationship would change everything between you.
I don't think anybody ever denied that was what a friend zone was.
 

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Don't be creepy. Your post comes off as creepy. Don't do that. Guessing this is a young thing, so avoid the whole Twilight True love! proclamations. Actually avoid those at any age. Shit be creepy.

Anyway, it should be about showing her a good, fun time. Show, don't tell. Etc. And if she says no (Any grown woman likely should if she just got dumped) don't go emo or threaten to blow up your school over it. Again, creepy.
 

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Hobo Steve said:
Man up, stop pissing around and just go ask her.
Its not that difficult folks, and trust me, planning some big weird romantic fantasy of how to ask a girl out is just plain ol creepy.

Edit: When it comes to "romance" remember these words.

He who hesitates, masturbates.
LOL

OT: You might as well just ask her. Also, shouldn't this go in the advice forum?
 

artanis_neravar

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Tdc2182 said:
I don't think anybody ever denied that was what a friend zone was.
FirstToStrike said:
[HEADING=1]WALL BANGER![/HEADING]

Seriously, you just denied that the friend zone existed, and then you bring it right back into existence.
The friend zone is different from just being a friend, the friend zone is when a guy believes that he waiting to long and because of the wait the girl is no longer interested, and that does not exist
 

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artanis_neravar said:
Tdc2182 said:
I don't think anybody ever denied that was what a friend zone was.
FirstToStrike said:
[HEADING=1]WALL BANGER![/HEADING]

Seriously, you just denied that the friend zone existed, and then you bring it right back into existence.
The friend zone is different from just being a friend, the friend zone is when a guy believes that he waiting to long and because of the wait the girl is no longer interested, and that does not exist
If that is what you think, alright, everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but that's so horribly wrong it hurts.

OT: It's good that you decided to go for it!

Oh, the friend zone exists on both side, though it seem the ladies call it something else.
 

artanis_neravar

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Magefeanor said:
artanis_neravar said:
Tdc2182 said:
I don't think anybody ever denied that was what a friend zone was.
FirstToStrike said:
[HEADING=1]WALL BANGER![/HEADING]

Seriously, you just denied that the friend zone existed, and then you bring it right back into existence.
The friend zone is different from just being a friend, the friend zone is when a guy believes that he waiting to long and because of the wait the girl is no longer interested, and that does not exist
If that is what you think, alright, everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but that's so horribly wrong it hurts.

OT: It's good that you decided to go for it!

Oh, the friend zone exists on both side, though it seem the ladies call it something else.
When guys complain about being put in the friend zone it is usually accompanied by them claiming that they waited to long, I have never heard a guy complain about the friend zone when they are just a friend or asked a girl out then became a friend after the fact.
 

Ushiromiya Battler

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artanis_neravar said:
Magefeanor said:
artanis_neravar said:
Tdc2182 said:
I don't think anybody ever denied that was what a friend zone was.
FirstToStrike said:
[HEADING=1]WALL BANGER![/HEADING]

Seriously, you just denied that the friend zone existed, and then you bring it right back into existence.
The friend zone is different from just being a friend, the friend zone is when a guy believes that he waiting to long and because of the wait the girl is no longer interested, and that does not exist
If that is what you think, alright, everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but that's so horribly wrong it hurts.

OT: It's good that you decided to go for it!

Oh, the friend zone exists on both side, though it seem the ladies call it something else.
When guys complain about being put in the friend zone it is usually accompanied by them claiming that they waited to long, I have never heard a guy complain about the friend zone when they are just a friend or asked a girl out then became a friend after the fact.
Oh, alright then.
I guess I was a bit fast on the disagreeing.
We just have different interpretations of the friend zone. Can we agree to disagree?
 

Katana314

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To those saying you have nothing to lose: Wrong. Many people lose a lot of self-esteem from rejection, and often lose the chances of having a normal conversation with her. It's not exactly close physical contact or anything, but given the choice between periodic normal conversations and a very low chance of contact, it may be a tough decision.
 

artanis_neravar

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Magefeanor said:
artanis_neravar said:
Magefeanor said:
artanis_neravar said:
Tdc2182 said:
I don't think anybody ever denied that was what a friend zone was.
FirstToStrike said:
[HEADING=1]WALL BANGER![/HEADING]

Seriously, you just denied that the friend zone existed, and then you bring it right back into existence.
The friend zone is different from just being a friend, the friend zone is when a guy believes that he waiting to long and because of the wait the girl is no longer interested, and that does not exist
If that is what you think, alright, everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but that's so horribly wrong it hurts.

OT: It's good that you decided to go for it!

Oh, the friend zone exists on both side, though it seem the ladies call it something else.
When guys complain about being put in the friend zone it is usually accompanied by them claiming that they waited to long, I have never heard a guy complain about the friend zone when they are just a friend or asked a girl out then became a friend after the fact.
Oh, alright then.
I guess I was a bit fast on the disagreeing.
We just have different interpretations of the friend zone. Can we agree to disagree?
Of course, I have no problem with that
 

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Gxas said:
thelonewolf266 said:
Ask her out soon the friend zone is real and it sucks.
Honestly, having been friend-zoned by... what is it now... Four girls of five that I've ever been romantically involved with, I can say that it initially sucks. But after a while, and if they really meant that much to you, having them not there is so much worse than having them there, even just as a friend.
True story... God damn it does not having someone who means a lot to you in your life at all suck...
 

Neo10101

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Ask her out, like now, as in, if you are reading this and you haven't go call her and ask if she wants to go to the movies (some other date idea), if she is that important to you go for it.
 

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Good Luck! One way or another it will work itself out. If she isn't into it right now don't run away. My husband tried to friend zone me in high school, the dweeb. I'm just saying if the juice is worth the squeeze, stick around. It seems like she is already a good friend so try not to get down. All of this is based around a negative response of course, but hopefully all will be well.
 

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Katana314 said:
To those saying you have nothing to lose: Wrong. Many people lose a lot of self-esteem from rejection, and often lose the chances of having a normal conversation with her. It's not exactly close physical contact or anything, but given the choice between periodic normal conversations and a very low chance of contact, it may be a tough decision.
See, thats the problem. People let the rejection bring them down. If you do that, of course it will be worse. But, seriously, the worst thing that could happen is that she says, "No." What you do afterward with that answer is on you. If you let it bring you down, then you're doing that to yourself.

This is coming from someone who's self esteem hit an all-time-low over the course of the last five years and is just now starting to come back now that I've begun living my life this way.
 

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Curious to see how this turns out.

PS: grow a spine and ask her, but probably skip the part about you being obsessed with her, and for how long, and all the other stalker-esque qualities until she's in the bag.
Otherwise, she might have a Sound Of Music impulse and run for the hills.
 

Katana314

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Gxas said:
Katana314 said:
To those saying you have nothing to lose: Wrong. Many people lose a lot of self-esteem from rejection, and often lose the chances of having a normal conversation with her. It's not exactly close physical contact or anything, but given the choice between periodic normal conversations and a very low chance of contact, it may be a tough decision.
See, thats the problem. People let the rejection bring them down. If you do that, of course it will be worse. But, seriously, the worst thing that could happen is that she says, "No." What you do afterward with that answer is on you. If you let it bring you down, then you're doing that to yourself.

This is coming from someone who's self esteem hit an all-time-low over the course of the last five years and is just now starting to come back now that I've begun living my life this way.
Can you honestly just tell someone NOT to be depressed about something when it's a human reaction?
"My sister died in a mugging..."
"Get over it! Jeez, stop moping."

I did not "let" rejection bring me down. It brought me down. It's possible that other people are able to respond differently, but that's them.
 

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sparten042 said:
right, first thing's first, there's a girl that i've liked for a long time now, sinc at last june last year and in october i had just built up the courage to ask her out, but turns out she was dating one of best friends without my knowledge, and this had been for several months.

now last friday her boyfriend broke up with her to go out with his ex, who he cheated on in the first place so he could go out with the girl i like, and now that she's single i want to ask her before i lose her again, so im asking for any advice and opinions any of you many have but only if you think it will genuinely help because this girl means the world to me, any advice on when to ask her, how, what to say etc... would much very very appreciated, thank you
It may be best to wait if she's just come out of a relationship (the topic of relationships may still be a bit of a sore spot for her if it was a particularly bad break up) but if you're feeling like now is the best time then I'd say be gentle about it, be supportive and reassuring about what's happened and show that you really do care for her and how she feels (she'll probably appreciate that in the given situation).

As for dealing with nerves, everyone is different. Some people talk to themselves in the mirror, some people just don't think about it and others still down seven and a half cases of Russian vodka. At the end of the day you should do what works best for you and makes you feel most calm and relaxed.

Sure, you're without a doubt gonna be nervous as hell anyway (I'm sure most people are) but look at it this way, if she says yes then she feels the same way you do and allow me to say congratulations and good luck in advance, if she says no then at least you know where you stand with her and you can still be friends (better to know how things are than to have doubts about it eating away at you).

Whatever you do, good luck, I hope the advice I gave is helpful and I hope things work out for you.
 

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thelonewolf266 said:
Ask her out soon the friend zone is real and it sucks.
That's all I've got sorry.
Also this should probably be in the advice section.
The friend zone is real, but can be overcome. And the result is so much more awesome.
 

sparten042

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alright, hey agaian. so i just got back from college, all goes well until the ed of the day, so this is what i did;

i walk up to her start chatting and just casully say do you want to come too te cinema on saturday, to which she replies she's busy all weekend, the thing is we've got a week break next week and im not sure if i should wait til after the holiday to do it in person or ask her through text or msn or whatever.

she said to try again some other time, so now i really have to get it right 'cause three times seems desperate to me...