They got the character wrong....*whine*

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TheBobmus said:
I think I can speak for any of the fans of the book when I say everyone in Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief.
Oh god yes. I really like that book series, but it seems the movie director read a couple lines from the book and then threw it in a garbage bin.
 

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WolfThomas said:
I think the problem is that it's inherently harder to give the breadth of characterization and introspection in a tv series. But that doesn't mean that it's bad. I have read both the Song of Ice and Fire books and watched the show. I feel a lot of their changes have been pragmatic and necessary (some admittedly quite weird).

Take Tywin Lannister I feel he's more empathetic in the TV show and more impressive because they changed his physical appearance. The shaved everywhere but gold sideburns was ridiculous, the over the top ornate armour, I couldn't take him seriously even though hes meant to be a very severe character. But Tywin Lannister in the show is menacing but at the same time shows a kindly side to say Arya.

Stannis's upgrade to a BAMF in "Blackwater" was pretty cool too.
One thing I guess I was sort of annoyed by was the decision to make everyone 3-5 years older. It changes the story at certain points a -lot-. An example without giving any spoilers. I guess some might be able to guess it.

Teenager fights skilled veteran.

Adult fights skilled veteran.

Those five-six extra years they added made it a bit less dramatic imo.

I guess there are lots of reasons for making the characters this much older, the most obvious being (So we can show it to an American audience)/(So we can find better actors)

I mean pretty much all the younger characters were 'teenagers' in the book. And in the readers eyes thats pretty much still children. So if we have to go to the extremes they made children into adults between book and series, and thats just a pretty big change. They still managed to keep the characters just about the exact same I mean, they might have been 13-15 but they 'did' act a lot older. So both as a transition and standing alone the series is nothing short of brilliant, as you said some changes are even for the better.

I consider the first book a lot like a comming-of-age story for a lot of the characters, the series. If anything, not so much.
 

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Does this work the other way as well? Because judging from 'The Coming of the Terraphiles', Michael Moorcock does not understand the character of The Doctor.
 

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I'm talking on a movie trilogy here based in another movie trilogy. Star Wars! Anakin Skywalker. He was never supposed to be a whiny emo *****. He should have been a really good guy, but ambitious so he could be corrupted, but a good, nice, brave jedi. In the prequels you just hate him right away for all the wrong reasons.

And I simply don't get the point of showing him as a stupid kid in the first movie. I should simply pretend this movie doesn't exist.

One of the best characters ever simply ruined for me.

Captcha: sour grapes
 

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
Well, it's not a book, but I'm gonna nominate Aang of "The Last Airbender" fame anyway. In the TV show, he's a happy little kid, and his name rhymes with "bang". In the movie, he's a completely emotionless stick of wood, and his name rhymes with "gong".

And don't think it's just bad acting. They wrote him as some kind of warrior monk, when he's nothing like that in the show. And in case you missed it, THEY GOT HIS NAME WRONG. I'm sorry, I meant they got his name "wrang".
And Fire Benders can't create their own fire unless they're a fucking master or something. I love how M. Knight Shamylamylamylamylamylan has to shoehorn a "twist" into these things like he does with movies he's actually written from scratch. *Gasp*, Sozin's comet will give the fire benders power, guys!

No shit. And he had to go and change it instead of it making them more powerful, it just lets them create their own fire. And why was the Fire Nation Indian when characters like Zuko were the palest people in the actual damn show?

Probably so he could give himself a cameo like he always bloody does... Michael Bay and Shamylando Calrissian should form a crime fighting duo that goes around kicking the shit out of people's favorite cartoon franchises.
 

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Katniss in The Hunger Games movie comes across as very unsympathetic. She's meant to be 'sullen and hostile' in the books, but not seeing everything from her viewpoint makes her unlikable.
 

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CrystalShadow said:
I think the changes that messed with my head the most where some of the more extreme rewrites. The films aren't any worse for it, but it does get a little confusing when you put them both side by side.

For instance, the elf that takes frodo to rivendell when he was poisoned was a completely different character, who they replaced with Arwen, although all the lines she says are identical to the one spoken by the male elf in the book.

(My memory isn't doing me any favours right now, so excuse the way I describe some of this.)

Also... The battle of helms deep from the films bears little resemblance to what was written in the books...

(There's a few other things but they are mostly omissions, like the scouring of the shire, and Tom Bombadil)

Still, it's not bad, just, confusing. XD
Yeah, giving Arwen a much larger part in the movies was something that really bugged my brother and father. I need to actually go back and read the books again 'cause it's been a few years, but on a similar note to the omission of Tom Bombadil, one thing that always bugged me about the Harry Potter films is that they completely erased Peeves the Poltergeist from existence. Saddening, because he was such an amusing extra.
 

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Tadd said:
...and then Michael Gambon took to the role. Whilst occasionally possessing some of the traits of the Dumbeldore I had grown to love in the books, he would at times crush my fanboy dreams. Random outburts: "Did you put your name in the goblet of fire!?!?" "Don't you all have homework to do!?!"
To be fair, I would pin it down to direction. Goblet of Fire was so amazingly melodramatic and ham-handed it was like their only stage direction was "find some scenery and CHEW!" It wasn't just dumbledore, but 80% of the characters.

On the other hand, I didn't get the "Dumbledore" vibe from either actor.
 

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Jurassic Park the Movie: John Hammond is a nice, old Santa Claus-esque man.

Jurassic Park the Book: John Hammond is an absolute money grubbing bastard. Gets eaten by dinosaurs.
Not to mention the fact that in the book, Muldoon, the badass Australian hunter guy, survives. If there was one guy who you'd think would have the skill set to survive in that situation it would be him. In the movie he gets taken out like a punk.
 

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Hollyday said:
Sorry to be really really girly for a second, but this one bugs me more than any other character in history: Mr. Darcy.

In the films he's this brooding, sulky but ultimately ridiculously romantic character. Hence, especially since Colin Firth's portrayal, he's seen as the 'perfect man'.

But in the book he's just nothing. Absolutely nothing. All his dialogue is given to us second hand. All his descriptions are received from a character, not the narrator, and he never has this amazing moment of clarity at the end where he professes his undying love. That's the whole point of the book - that our idea of this man is formed solely through other people's prejudices. In an adaptation which was trying to stay faithful to the book you just wouldn't cast him, except for a figure in the distance scowling every now and again.
On this note, most characters in Wuthering Heights depictions. It's not supposed to be a big, fairy-tale romance. It's an incredibly dark story, one in which Catherine's an uber-narcissist and Heathcliff is incredibly possessive and destructive.

It's not supposed to be a whimsical, lovey-dovey story.
 

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I personally felt Richard Gambon played Dumbledore perfectly fine. But, admittedly, I haven?t read and seen the books and films respectively in the while, to the point that I?d forgotten Gambon wasn?t always Dumbledore. Anyway?

Everyone in Dragon Ball Evolution, especially Son Gokuu, whose character had been absolutely mangled by Justin Chatwin and his god-awful acting. They turned him from a loveable and childlike hick into a well-spoken and socially awkward high schooler who wanted to get his own back on the bullies. Then they half-assedly shoved in a random scene of him eating a chicken drumstick to appease the easily appeased fans who were watching a film that was Dragon Ball in name only.

And Michael Keaten as Batman. ?Nuff said. In contrast, Jack Nicholson was great as the Joker, albeit helped by the fact that the film laboured much more over him than the titular character. They should?ve just named it ?The Joker - featuring Batman?.

Matthew Goode as Adrian Veidt in Watchmen. He just didn?t give off the same effortlessly faux-polite and condescending vibe of self-importance portrayed in the graphic novel.

Regnes said:
Snape wasn't portrayed as quite the same character as he was in the books, but by the time Order of the Phoenix (The Book) was released, Snape was Alan Rickman and everybody including me loved it.

Mad-Eye Moody also had a really shitty portrayal, he was supposed to be the darkest and most gritty member of the good side, not some googly eyed clown.

Also Hermione was not a sex symbol, she shouldn't have been portrayed as such.
Are you crazy? Alan Rickman was perfect as Snape; he was pretty much exactly how I?d imagined him when I read the books. But I guess everyone has different interpretations of fictional characters. Mad-Eye Moody...I'm not as familar with his character, but I don't think he was portrayed as a "googly-eyed clown". Just a bit more?wild, for lack of a better word.

And yeah, I don't recall Hermione being described as that attractive in the books. I'd always found Watson's acting bad as well, like she kept on forgetting how to breathe or something. But she only really got portrayed as a sex symbol around the fourth book (the Yule Ball).
 

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Inkheart. Oh god, one of my childhood favourites ruined. I remember reading on the back of the book that they were planning to make a movie, and I was ecstatic. Then, several years later, I fianlly saw that a movie was out. Not just some indie movie either, it had pretty good funding behind it too. After watching it, man, its like they got nothing right. It was almost the exact opposite to how I imagined it.

I also want to say that I read the LOTR books (well, the first two) before seeing the Peter Jackson films, and I HATED them. I mean it, I absolutely couldn't stand the first two books. They bored me to sleep. However, I find the movies to be among my all time favourites. Funny how that worked out. I'm glad it did though.
 

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Not my cup of tea, but I can't resist.

V in V for Vendetta.

James McTeigue (director) was going through the material he had to work with, pondering how he could portray this graphic novel by staying true to the original without alienating casual movie goers. He went to the oldest trick in the book: In this world of anti-villains and anti-heroes he created a hero to fight a villain. A man with good intentions but desperate enough to go to extremes to achieve his goals. Ultimately good, yes?

Wrong. In the graphic novel V was downright cruel, manipulative and at times incredibly hypocritical (taking over the surveillance network and using it to his own end). He is deliberately morally ambiguous for the exact same reason that any other political ideology cannot be inherently either good or bad, but what you do with it.

Also the entire political debate of the graphic novel is 'out of date' so to say, and the attempt to 'refresh it' was poorly executed. Or as Alan Moore put it:

Alan Moore said:
I've read the screenplay, so I know exactly what they're doing with it, and I'm not going to be going to see it. When I wrote "V," politics were taking a serious turn for the worse over here. We'd had Margaret Thatcher in for two or three years, we'd had anti-Thatcher riots, we'd got the National Front and the right wing making serious advances. "V for Vendetta" was specifically about things like fascism and anarchy.

Those words, "fascism" and "anarchy," occur nowhere in the film. It's been turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country. In my original story there had been a limited nuclear war, which had isolated Britain, caused a lot of chaos and a collapse of government, and a fascist totalitarian dictatorship had sprung up. Now, in the film, you?ve got a sinister group of right-wing figures ? not fascists, but you know that they?re bad guys?and what they have done is manufactured a bio-terror weapon in secret, so that they can fake a massive terrorist incident to get everybody on their side, so that they can pursue their right-wing agenda. It's a thwarted and frustrated and perhaps largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values [standing up] against a state run by neo-conservatives ? which is not what "V for Vendetta" was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about [England]. The intent of the film is nothing like the intent of the book as I wrote it. And if the Wachowski brothers had felt moved to protest the way things were going in America, then wouldn't it have been more direct to do what I'd done and set a risky political narrative sometime in the near future that was obviously talking about the things going on today?
Read more: http://www.mtv.com/shared/movies/interviews/m/moore_alan_060315/

Captcha: 'true life' - fitting.
 

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The Dresden Files.

They got Harry dead on but just about everyone else was really really really bad.
 

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Hero in a half shell said:
Turning a dark comic about a blonde, English antihero who dicks about with demons just for the Hell of it (pun intended) and survives by manipulating everyone around him, usually getting them killed in the process.

In the movie he was played by Keanu bloody Reeves, as a sarcastic, gun toting, American Catholic exorcist with dark hair, who is on a religious quest for repentance and with 100% extra Shia LaBeouf.
Heh, I think you just invoked a real-life version of the [a
href=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArsonMurderAndJaywalking]Arson, Murder and Jaywalking[/a] trope.
 

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Everyone in Eragon.
Christ that film was shit. It was a horrific pile of shit, attempting to copy a solid gold statue of awesome. (The books are the statue in this metaphor...)
That film was so terrible, but the books awesome. And now no-one will try and make films of it, because the first attempt crashed and burned. (Rightfully so, but still. Urgh.)
 

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TheBobmus said:
I think I can speak for any of the fans of the book when I say everyone in Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief.
Think that's bad? The Jurassic Park book and movie could almost be considered separate stories entirely.

A Kindly old man who just so happens to run a multimillion dollar genetics company wants to use new technology and science to let the world experience the wonders of Dinosaurs. He invites several people to his "Dinosaur Theme Park" including famous Paleontologist Alan Grant, a stubborn, tired man who doesn't like children. His lovely assistant Ellie. Along with a cowardly, annoying lawyer that is more worried about "price" then if the people were happy. Ian Malcolm, a mathematician who's skeptical about the park's safety regulations and theorizes that if the dinosaurs get out, many people's lives will be at risk. Finally, he brings his beloved grandchildren to show them the wonders of the park and give them the joys of seeing dinosaurs!

Unfortunately, meddling from a greedy scientist results in the Dinosaurs getting loose. A few people die, including the park's game warden Robert Muldoon, the Lawyer, and the Scientist himself. Luckily through courage and tenacity, the remaining people on the island escape to safety! The old man is regretful that his park put people's lives in danger, and vows to insure the Dinosaurs are protected and no one has to lose their lives to his park again!

A greed, egotistical old businessman who runs a multimillion dollar genetics company wants to use new technology and science to make millions off of the millions of people who'd pay to see real, live, dinosaurs. He invites several people to his "Dinosaur Theme Park" in hopes of getting an endorsement. Including famous Paleontologist Alan Grant, a young, handsome man who enjoys seeing children become interested in Dinosaurs and "the ancient world". His lovely assistant Ellie. Along with a lawyer that is rightfully worried about the expenses of the park. Ian Malcolm, a mathematician who's smart enough to be cautious about the Park's safety, he predicts that there will be an untold amount of people killed if things go awry. Finally, he brings his Grandchildren, he needs to gauge how the "Child Statistic" would react to the park after all!

Predictably, meddling from a greedy scientist results in the Dinosaurs getting loose. A countless members of staff die, the Lawyer, Ian Malcolm, even the greedy old man himself! The only people who managed to survive were those who actually had experience dealing with dinosaurs, including Robert Muldoon, Grant and Ellie, and luckily the children! The park is firebombed by the military, and the company's plans of building a new park are foiled. Unfortunately, it seems that not all the dinosaurs are killed, and the world will most likely never be the same again.

While the movie is a somewhat scary family adventure flick, the novel is very realistic and bloody.
I seem to remember Gennaro (the lawyer) surviving in the book. He even helped with gassing the raptor nest at the end.

The guy that gets killed at the T-Rex paddock was that ginger haired park representative. He got eaten by the junior Rex.
 

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Rincewind in The Colour of Magic by Sky1.

He's 70 in the show! The fuck?! In the books he's an early 20s loser not someone who's been there for 50 years! The rest was awesome but I was a bit disappointed.
 

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The Dresden Files TV show. They just butchered every damn character from the books to the point where they couldn't even be recognized. The show was alright on it's own merits (not good, but alright) but being a fan of the books just ruined a lot of the show for me.