Thief Launch Trailer Heralds Garrett's New Arrival

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It looks like a mix between Deus Ex: HR and Mirror's Edge. Some obligatory big setpieces are present... I think that for me, writing will make or break the game. So I'll wait some time, after the initial hype dies down, and maybe get it if the opinions are good.
 

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As a big Thief fan who played the first three games, the trailers and info I've seen so far have left me with mixed feelings. There are copious nods to the original trilogy, like the character of Basso and his pet bird Jenevere. But there's also a lot changed. From what I've seen of the gameplay, it looks like there's plenty of stealing and sneaking to be had. I'm definitely not too enthalled about Stephen Russell being dropped as the voice of Garrett, though; that man basically owned the role in the trilogy.

I do wonder a bit about Garrett's new characterization. As folks have said, he's always been the snarky cynic, doing what he does best to make his way in the world, less out of some kind of existential desire to "be free" but more because a man's gotta eat and keep a roof over his head, and nicking it out of someone else's pocket is his forte. You got glimpses of his underlying heart and care for others from the games as he would ultimately do the right thing, but not until he'd fully expressed how exasperating it was it came to this. He took pride in his work and loved a challenge, but he wasn't being all poetic about it constantly. His new character design, I admit is slightly off-putting. I don't have a problem with the face mask (it fits well enough) but the eyeliner-ish look to his face is a little too goth-like. The new voice actor isn't bad, but I'm not sure he really brings the right attitude to the character yet.

Well, I'm still willing to give the game a go, no matter how many apparently parallels to Dishonored it has. That game itself wasn't all that bad either, so who knows, maybe the new Thief will improve on its weaknesses and be a worthy successor to the original Thief games.
 

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Garrett?? what have they done to you :(

The trailer makes the game seem a bit too.. ehh, clean? tidy? neat? I can't quite put my finger on it bu.... wait, is this game supposed to be set prior to Garrett getting his mechanical eye or something?
 

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Sonicron said:
Yes, it has the potential to gargle ball sweat. It might also be really good, though. Why can't people just rip the nostalgia shades from their eyes for a few hours and give this new game an honest chance?
Because the cost of an honest chance is prohibitive. I make enough to comfortably spend $60 on a game that looks promising, but this doesn't look promising. This looks awful. This doesn't look like Thief. And that's fine, but then don't call it Thief.

I loved Splinter Cell, then Conviction came out. It was an absolutely atrocious Splinter Cell game. It was a pretty solid third person action game, it was very enjoyable. It wasn't Splinter Cell.

Same seems to be true for this newest Thief game.
 

Sonicron

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2HF said:
Sonicron said:
Yes, it has the potential to gargle ball sweat. It might also be really good, though. Why can't people just rip the nostalgia shades from their eyes for a few hours and give this new game an honest chance?
Because the cost of an honest chance is prohibitive. I make enough to comfortably spend $60 on a game that looks promising, but this doesn't look promising. This looks awful. This doesn't look like Thief. And that's fine, but then don't call it Thief.

I loved Splinter Cell, then Conviction came out. It was an absolutely atrocious Splinter Cell game. It was a pretty solid third person action game, it was very enjoyable. It wasn't Splinter Cell.

Same seems to be true for this newest Thief game.
Oh well. I guess that's fair enough, even if the pricetag could be outsmarted using a rental store (they're pretty cheap here in Germany, not sure about elsewhere). In the end it probably comes down to where you stand on the topic of reinterpretative adaptation; I generally try to maintain a positive outlook, but I can understand why that wouldn't apply to most folk.
Alrighty then, I see your point. To each his own. :)

(Btw, your thoughts on Conviction mirror mine to the letter.)
 

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I think he asked "What happened to me?" because he didn't understand the situation, not because of amnesia.
 

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Storm Dragon said:
I think he asked "What happened to me?" because he didn't understand the situation, not because of amnesia.
No, it's been reported that Garrett suffers from real, actual, worst-video-game-cliche-ever amnesia in the game. I think it was revealed in this trailer: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/131980-Thief-Trailer-Says-Stealing-and-Saving-the-City-are-Kind-of-The-Same-Thing
 

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Andy Chalk said:
Storm Dragon said:
I think he asked "What happened to me?" because he didn't understand the situation, not because of amnesia.
No, it's been reported that Garrett suffers from real, actual, worst-video-game-cliche-ever amnesia in the game. I think it was revealed in this trailer: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/131980-Thief-Trailer-Says-Stealing-and-Saving-the-City-are-Kind-of-The-Same-Thing
Oh. Well, frell. Eidos keeps sending me mixed messages about this game. For every thing I hear that makes me optimistic about this game, there's another that worries me.
 

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Honestly don't know what to feel about this anymore. I guess I'll just wait and see at this point. I saw a (supposedly new) video the other day with about 30 minutes of the first level, and it still had experience and stuff from headshots. I thought they said they got rid of that?
 

Andy Chalk

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The new Thief can be evaluated in two ways: As a sequel to Thief, and as a standalone game. It's quite possible that it will shit all over the first three games (or two, if you want to be that way) and still be a very solid experience. As much as I hate to say it (and as much as I don't understand why they bothered building it around Garrett if this is what they were going to do), it would be easy enough to chuck what's gone before, build a Dishonored-style game, make it REALLY good, call it Thief and have a winner on your hands. People like me might not be entirely happy about it, but we're not going to be happy unless you reform Looking Glass Studios and give Stephen Russell a full-time job.

The trouble with Thief is that not only does it look like a complete miss as a sequel, everything I've heard indicates that it's a pretty awful game, too. I don't say this to dissuade anyone from giving it a chance - in fact, I encourage you to read all the reviews you can and talk to people who've played it - but simply because it looks quite likely that Thief isn't going to disappoint just old-school hard-asses like me, but even people who have never touched the franchise before.
 

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The trailers for the game have hit the right spot, but I'm waiting on the actual reviews to come out.