Well, apparently they did it through "dynamic effects". The Escapist actually covered it not too long ago:zehydra said:
Things about skyrim that worry you?
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I'm with this guy.Kakulukia said:
There hasn't yet been anything that struck me as "really".
Every single choice they've made has been very appealing to me.
I guess that is a little bit worrying.Romidude said:
Though where did you hear that it was 6GB? That's less than Modern Warfare 2.
Edit: I just looked it up and there are much more than five towns. From the count on this map, there are at least nine.
I retract my statement, I think you got a lot of false information.
On a certain torrent website that the 360 version leaked to (i didnt download it i only wanted to check if it really had leaked and what size it was) it was 8.19gb'sJoesshittyOs said:
As I've actually had a chance to play the 30 min demo during Eurogamer Expo, maybe I can answer some of those concerns.Hunter65416 said:
-The UI is simplified. Personally, I liked it, because it was informative but never obstructive.
-Skyrim is set in Skyrim (Duh!
), Which is a northern part of Tamriel, with lots of mountains. These have been done exceptionally well, but are obviously a lot greyer than the grassier tundras and forests (Which there are still plenty of). The Dungeon I played was a bit dark and brown, but it was underground so that's not really surprising.-The finishing moves are cool! (In my opinion) I remember them being random/last enemy. You can't be attacked during them, so you can just sit back and watch (good for pacing in hectict combat?)
-The health and mana bars are huge. But they aren't visible unless there is a change in one of them (And only for the ones that changed). This allows you to have a completely clear view when things are calm, but also very clear visual indications of when you need them (hence, the oversized bars).
I hope that calms some of your concerns.
Incidentally, I had no interest in Skyrim until I played the demo. My brother adored Oblivion, but I could never get into it (same with Fallout 3). He was very excited about playing the demo when we were at the expo, and since it was only the two of us, I decided to come with him and try it as well. I've been hooked ever since.
Hmm.Hunter65416 said:
Well, thinking about it, Assassin's Creed 2 was a 5.2 GB download, and that was a pretty big game with decent textures. I don't think we have much to worry about.
What worries me is that the game might still assume I need to be told where to go at all times.
If I could, I'd just have my objective as a plink on a map and a compass telling me what direction I'm facing. Then when I get into the general area, it's up to me to search.
If I recall, they had a spell to help you locate your objective, so I'm hoping that that's the crutch to fall back on instead of little pointers everywhere telling you where to go.
I want my quests to treat me like a detective more than a meathead who just wants to kill things.
That said, I still want to kill things.
I also want to have multiple followers so I can have a pet dog and a charming young elf thief at my side at the same time.
If I could, I'd just have my objective as a plink on a map and a compass telling me what direction I'm facing. Then when I get into the general area, it's up to me to search.
If I recall, they had a spell to help you locate your objective, so I'm hoping that that's the crutch to fall back on instead of little pointers everywhere telling you where to go.
I want my quests to treat me like a detective more than a meathead who just wants to kill things.
That said, I still want to kill things.
I also want to have multiple followers so I can have a pet dog and a charming young elf thief at my side at the same time.
-The UI is a bit weird and bland
Oblivions UI was actually atrocious. I modded mine to hell just to get it looking semi-decent. This new UI works fairly well.
-From the videos ive seen the majority of the environments seem a bit grey and gritty compared to the lush green environments i loved in oblivion
You mean the entire one of them?
-im not sure about the finishing moves in combat that you have no control over (there sort of cut scene type things)
They mix up combat a little. Combat in Oblivion was decent, but I never used close-range weapons just because of how dish-water dull the combat was.
I think it looks pretty amazing actually. Not a thing I would change.
Oblivions UI was actually atrocious. I modded mine to hell just to get it looking semi-decent. This new UI works fairly well.
-From the videos ive seen the majority of the environments seem a bit grey and gritty compared to the lush green environments i loved in oblivion
You mean the entire one of them?
-im not sure about the finishing moves in combat that you have no control over (there sort of cut scene type things)
They mix up combat a little. Combat in Oblivion was decent, but I never used close-range weapons just because of how dish-water dull the combat was.
I think it looks pretty amazing actually. Not a thing I would change.
You may be pleased to know that of the developers' in-house speed run contests, the current RECORD is 2 hours and change. That's roughly twice as long as either Oblivion or Fallout 3.Stammer said:
Nothing has really worried me. The only thing that has angered me though is the pussies who are crying about "No More Cast Button". I've seen it enough times to make me a little pissy about them.
However I will say that Skyrim being over-hyped may end up being under-appreciated, which I already see many cases of close to its release.
However I will say that Skyrim being over-hyped may end up being under-appreciated, which I already see many cases of close to its release.
That I will starve to death while playing.
In all seriousness, the combat still looks a little stiff, and TES has never been a series for emotional or thought provoking storytelling. I'm sure the writing will be fine, but I don't expect to be enthralled.
But TES is about personal discovery and achievement, so I probably won't even notice the main plot if it fails to grasp my attention. And while the combat looks like it could be more fluid, the presentation has never been better, and in sandbox games the combat is as much about roleplaying as it is instant gratification.
In all seriousness, the combat still looks a little stiff, and TES has never been a series for emotional or thought provoking storytelling. I'm sure the writing will be fine, but I don't expect to be enthralled.
But TES is about personal discovery and achievement, so I probably won't even notice the main plot if it fails to grasp my attention. And while the combat looks like it could be more fluid, the presentation has never been better, and in sandbox games the combat is as much about roleplaying as it is instant gratification.
I'm worried about whether or not the melee finishers will be only at the end of combat or not, and whether you'll be damageable during them or not. If it's something that can only happen at the end of a combat, and there's no chance of being screwed over by losing control of the action, then ok. If they can happen any time during combat, I'm going to be really annoyed. I imagine it's going to break the flow of combat if I'm in the middle of hacking and slashing and burning, and suddenly find that my flurry of button pressing is going unrewarded.
I'm also a bit sad that birthsigns won't be a part of this game. That's a "it doesn't mesh with the continuity of the universe, since birthsigns in that universe really do play a role in an individual's creation" issue for me though.
I'm in favour of the no-class system, though. In Oblivion setting up your character poorly or not understanding the leveling system until 40 hours in meant you'd be screwed beyond on reason. A good build was meant you had to choose the skills you'd use the least as main skills, then carefully grind minor skills from here to Secunda and back before finally using your main skills to actually gain a level. It was tedious and boring, and most importantly it wasn't fun on any level. The way this new system is set up, you just have to play any way you want, and you'll get more powerful in those abilities without having to mess around with attributes. The whole point of attributes were to define your base damage, speed, health, encumbrance, luck, and magicka reserves. Now you get health each level up, and can add to either your health, magicka, or stamina pool. Stamina now determines encumbrance, weapon skills directly determine weapon damage, and (presumably) speed and luck related upgrades are going to be available as skill tree perks. It's a much nicer system, in my opinion.
I'm also a bit sad that birthsigns won't be a part of this game. That's a "it doesn't mesh with the continuity of the universe, since birthsigns in that universe really do play a role in an individual's creation" issue for me though.
I'm in favour of the no-class system, though. In Oblivion setting up your character poorly or not understanding the leveling system until 40 hours in meant you'd be screwed beyond on reason. A good build was meant you had to choose the skills you'd use the least as main skills, then carefully grind minor skills from here to Secunda and back before finally using your main skills to actually gain a level. It was tedious and boring, and most importantly it wasn't fun on any level. The way this new system is set up, you just have to play any way you want, and you'll get more powerful in those abilities without having to mess around with attributes. The whole point of attributes were to define your base damage, speed, health, encumbrance, luck, and magicka reserves. Now you get health each level up, and can add to either your health, magicka, or stamina pool. Stamina now determines encumbrance, weapon skills directly determine weapon damage, and (presumably) speed and luck related upgrades are going to be available as skill tree perks. It's a much nicer system, in my opinion.
