Things in tv shows that bothered you.

[Kenbo Slice]

Okay, so I decided to re-watch Scrubs. But something happens in season 4 that really bothers me. Turk and Carla want to kick J.D. out of their apartment, even though HE was the one who got the apartment for him and Turk. It was HE who asked Turk to move in with him. I just thought that was super selfish and to make it worse after he decided to move they wouldn't even let him stay until he found his own place had to sleep in a tent. I thought they were friends.

If anyone could try to explain why they would do that, please try explaining it to me.

Also, anybody have any experiences like this with a tv show? Where something really bothered you?

 

[TheRiddler]

Breaking Bad with the existence of Skylar. I honestly don't understand how people can even remotely like her. She's nothing but a **** for the sake of being a ****.

I'd agree that Skyler's not necessarily the most likeable character on the show (that would be Saul), but I still see her as essentially sympathetic. She's an average suburban housewife who finds her world flipped upside down when she realizes that her husband is a meth kingpin. This leads her to try but fail to distance herself from Walt, and ultimately to fall victim to a certain Stockholm Syndrome, but hate herself for this.

Besides, what annoys me more are just the contrived coincidences, which kind of break the whole "realistic-and-gritty-depiction-of-the-drug-trade" thing that Vince Gilligan and Co. seem to be setting up. Hank just so happens to find the book in Walt's bathroom. Jesse just so happens to get into a relationship with the mother of his friend's murderer. Jane's dad just so happens to be an air traffic controller, who just so happens to let two planes crash into each other in a depressive rage.

 

[lechat]

there is a scene in the tv show alias where sydney is trying to infiltrate a data storage place (or whatever).
she states that she need to store multiple gigabytes of data to which the dude replies something along the lines of "no problem we can store multiple terraflops"
for a fairly tech heavy show it was pretty fail.

 

[GrimTuesday]

Well, its a small thing, but in the seventh season (and earlier seasons) of The West Wing they kept mentioning Oregon and Washington as swing states that the Republicans could win. Both states are solidly democratic states, and would almost certainly go for the Democratic candidate in any modern era campaign.

Also, anytime anyone mispronounces Oregon. I live right on the border of Washington and Oregon, so I kind of consider myself to be from both states, and it annoys me when I hear people mispronounce it as Or-E-gone.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

Yeah Carla throughout the whole show is greedy, bitchy and downright hypocritical to her husband. She's a terribly written character.

I always liked her better before her and Turk got married. After that I don't know what happened.

 

[TekMoney]

Well, its a small thing, but in the seventh season (and earlier seasons) of The West Wing they kept mentioning Oregon and Washington as swing states that the Republicans could win. Both states are solidly democratic states, and would almost certainly go for the Democratic candidate in any modern era campaign.

Also, anytime anyone mispronounces Oregon. I live right on the border of Washington and Oregon, so I kind of consider myself to be from both states, and it annoys me when I hear people mispronounce it as Or-E-gone.

But Vinick was a moderate Republican and put states in play that had previously been solidly Democratic. Remember, at one point in the campaign there was a belief that he could possibly win all 50 states.

 

[scorptatious]

Breaking Bad with the existence of Skylar. I honestly don't understand how people can even remotely like her. She's nothing but a **** for the sake of being a ****.

I'm only about part way through season 4 and so far, I have to agree somewhat.

Spoiler

I can understand being pissed off at Walt seeing as how he told so many lies to her. But I felt that she went a bit too far when she slept with Ted. It also proves that she's a hypocrite as well, as Ted was also doing some shady things to keep his business afloat.

 

[Caiphus]

No dialogue wheels or moral choice systems in any show ever.

Am I right guys, who's with me?

*Raises hand for the incoming wave of high fives*

 

[Realitycrash]

Scrubs is atrociously written, is the answer.
I noticed that thing myself. I was like WTH? You gets.
It's a nasty, out of place, thing to do. If it made any sense, he'd have said screw you and never spoken to them ever again.

In this day and age, you are taking my life before you are taking my apartment.

OT: Breaking Bad: If they have so little money and Walt has to work two jobs, why doesn't he move from his huge house with a swimming-pool to a more suitable place? You don't score any sympathy-points with me if you are putting yourself consciously in the luxury-trap.

In House, even though it is my favorite tv-show ever, Cameron wants the Evil African Dictator to die as well, but can't man up and do the deed herself (and the man even calling her out on it). When Chase, realizing that he will go back to conducting genocide, kills him instead, Cameron acts all prissy about it for 'violating his oath' and leaves him. I realize that this was meant to show hypocrisy on Cameron's part, but it still bugs me.

 

[spacemutant IV]

In Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the episode where she and Faith are out and killing Vampires all night, then some dude comes up, Faith thinks he is a Vampire and stabs him in the heart, he dies. I don't remember the details, but I seem to recall that the consequences for that mistake were played up to be way more dramatic than if, say, a cop had shot an innocent civillian in a firefight with some gangsters, only because they needed a reason for Faith to split and turn evil.

It has been such a long time though, maybe I don't remember it correctly. But I remember being pissed at the time.

 

[Tanis]

Spike nearly raping Buffy.

Out of the blue, and just a bad sub plot.

 

[ShipofFools]

Scrubs is atrociously written, is the answer.

Ha! Yeah!

In the Big Bang Theory thread today I already posted how I think the characters never seem to learn or grow, I always hate shows that do that, unless it makes sense for the characters to be like that (Like in Seinfeld).

In Red Dwarf, at one point the entire crew of the ship got resurrected. It didn't piss me off, and was kind of a cool season to watch, but was that really the same show I always watched?

Star Trek: Enterprise.
"Humans going to the stars for the first time, reaching maturity as a species and boldly going where no man has gone before! Here are some spy dramas and action flicks to tell that story to you!"
Fuck you, Rick Berman.

 

[Flatfrog]

Spike nearly raping Buffy.

Out of the blue, and just a bad sub plot.

Not sure I agree. In context it kind of made sense. He was incredibly conflicted at the time, driven mad by the tension between his burgeoning conscience and his innate evilness.

What complicates things further is that the two of them had already had some very rough sex and their relationship was built on a weird kind of mutual loathing, so it wasn't unreasonably for Spike to try to push it. What I thought was very nicely played about the scene was that *despite* this history, it was entirely clear that Spike had gone beyond the boundaries into an actual rape attempt. That was a fine line to draw and I thought they handled it very well.

However, on the subject of Buffy/Angel and back on topic, one thing always bothered the hell out of me. I thought the whole concept of 'soul', central to the whole show's premise, was completely inconsistently handled. As long as all demons were essentially monsters, as in the first few series, it was fine. But then in several episodes, and especially in Angel, we discovered demons who were perfectly conscious, moral beings - sometimes even sympathetic. At that stage the whole morality of the show was screwed because it made no sense why Buffy was allowed to kill any demon because 'it didn't have a soul', but no human, no matter how evil. There was just no sense of what a soul was or why on earth it should matter.

 

[Gizmo1990]

I have one for Stargate Atlantis. In all of SG1 and most of Atlantis the writers made sure that earth never got advanced weapons for their ships as it would make space fights too easy. The last episode of SG1 changed that when they got these beam weapons that could kill the most powerfull bad guys they had ever met in 6 shots.

But Atlantis went on for another season after SG1. All of the Earth ships were upgraded with these weapons and they even use them is some of the engagements but here is my problem. Now they have the weapons they can beat the wraith at every time. There ships are faster, have shields (wraith don't) and the new weapons can destory wraith ships very quickly. Why are they not taking the fight to the wraith? I know earth is limited to only 4 ships but the wraith are already fighting each other. Why not use hit and run tactics? Jump in, fire of a few dozen shot taking out a ship then jump back again. Slowly take them out one at a time?

They never seem to act only react.

 

[shootthebandit]

Its hardly a consistancy error like youve all said but it really bothers me when they sing on TV. I physically cant watch it and i either have to mute it or change channel for a minute

Here is probably the worst example. I know its supposed to be creepy but i feel pretty much the same way when anyone sings on TV

 

[ShipofFools]

Its hardly a consistancy error like youve all said but it really bothers me when they sing on TV. I physically cant watch it and i either have to mute it or change channel for a minute

Here is probably the worst example. I know its supposed to be creepy but i feel pretty much the same way when anyone sings on TV

Hahaha, that bit with him singing had my mates and me in stitches even after the song was done.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

 

[lechat]

Its hardly a consistancy error like youve all said but it really bothers me when they sing on TV. I physically cant watch it and i either have to mute it or change channel for a minute

Here is probably the worst example. I know its supposed to be creepy but i feel pretty much the same way when anyone sings on TV

damn i was a big fan of little shop of horrors and never realized how closely they matched that scene.

but yeah i hate random musical scenes like that with a passion

 

[Frybird]

A few months ago i tried to get into "Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip", a mostly forgotten Aaron Sorkin Show about the background events of a "Saturday Night Live"-Style Comedy Show and how some former writers/producers are re-hired. Those are the protagonists who then try to make the shows humor less shallow and stale and make it smarter.

Which is all fine and interesting, but: Sorkin can't write comedy sketches. The show clearly has sketches that are supposed to be bad and others that are supposed to be genius, and to me at least, both are atrociously bad. That would be something that you can ignore (after all, it's not about the actual sketches but rather the conception and the conflicts behind the scenes)...but Sorkin being Sorkin, he really likes to talk down to people, wich appears in spades both in the "genius" sketches as well as the actual story, where the main characters end up bitching about how others are too stupid or too opinionated to enjoy thier "brilliant" gags.

It made the show basically unwatchable for me.

(That said, i might not be a fan of Sorkin anyway. I really liked his writing in "The Social Network", but it really tired me out in "The Newsroom" [combined with it's 'holier than thou' attitude that was grating even when i mostly was inclined to agree with it, as well as the constant 'cheating' with using past events to make the newsteam look impossibly good...also it's either sexist or Sorkin just cannot write female characters]. As witty and clever his dialogues may be, there comes a time when you just cannot overlook the fact that people just do not talk that way.)

 

[Altorin]

the whole religious/prophecy subplot/angle in Battlestar Galactica was probably the most painful thing I'd ever seen. I know what it means basically (at least I think I do) - that the events leading up to the destruction of the 12 colonies was unavoidable, and that history repeats itself again and again, leading to myth that seems very familiar to their modern times... but every time the series took a turn towards the super-natural, I cringed. I couldn't stand it.

On the other hand, I *loved* the cylons. Once I gathered what their deal was (the series takes about 2.5 seasons before it really capitalizes on them and reveals their side of things/way of thinking), I found I could predict them because they were written in a very.. consistent way. Model Number 1 describes in passing about how during a battle, he was injured, and casually found a piece of jagged metal to cut his own throat with so that he would ressurect in their ressurection pods. That was a very profound moment. The Cylons really were machines, they thought like machines, they acted in ways like machines, and were COMPLETELY not expecting individual personalities to arise out of individual units through their interactions with the humans, but they did, and seeing how that effected their society was so interesting to me.

And then along the line somewhere, the president would have a lucid dream about some prophetic thing and I would fall asleep completely. One show contained both the most compelling bit of... society writing? Like character building but on a grand scale?.. I'd ever seen, and also the LEAST compelling bits of writing I'd ever seen.

The only thing more underwhelming in terms of writing was the wet fart that was the Lost Series Finale. Even after you understand it (and I don't think anyone "got it" the first time they saw it), it still leaves you feeling completely empty.

So... The Series Finale of Lost.

 

[octafish]

Well, its a small thing, but in the seventh season (and earlier seasons) of The West Wing they kept mentioning Oregon and Washington as swing states that the Republicans could win. Both states are solidly democratic states, and would almost certainly go for the Democratic candidate in any modern era campaign.

Also, anytime anyone mispronounces Oregon. I live right on the border of Washington and Oregon, so I kind of consider myself to be from both states, and it annoys me when I hear people mispronounce it as Or-E-gone.

But Vinick was a moderate Republican and put states in play that had previously been solidly Democratic. Remember, at one point in the campaign there was a belief that he could possibly win all 50 states.

Ahh Wing Nuts, I love you guys...

On topic the cast, writing, and whole scenario of Navy Cops AKA NCIS.