Things that piss you off

[iseko]

Okay so this is mostly going to be a rant. A small disclaimer from the start: English is not my native language. Ok, let the ranting commence.

So I am a guy who works in the field of biology. Medical biotechnology to be precise. I have been interested in this stuff since I was 12. I don't know if it is coincidence but lately I have been reading a lot of articles on sites in this field (forums, blogs, ...) and the comment section is becoming really retarded. I encourage people who know little of these topics to educate themselves. However, saying stupid shit based on nothing really really really pisses me off. And I am not even sure if they are trolling or not. Example:

An article about a new AIDS testing kit. It would be faster, cheaper and simpler. It is based on a PCR technique that can be performed in a regular tube. It searches for viral DNA. Now come the comments:

I didn't know AIDS had DNA? (I can live with this one. It is know to be an RNA virus so a test that looks for viral DNA might be confusing)

Duh, ofcourse AIDS has DNA. All cells do...(shut up or die you ignorant fuck)

Another example: Replacing mitochondria from an embryo with healthy mitochondria. The media has dubbed this the three-way-parent technique. This could prevent diseases like mitochondrial myopathy. Comments were:

Why would you want this? A child should be just between a man and a woman. No third person needed.(shut up or die)

This is completely pointless. It will only add to the worlds population and make pharmaceutical companies $$$. They should ban this! (Don't shut up, just die)

These are just two examples. There are many more out there. My question is two-fold.
1) Should I just ignore this kind of thing? I know the answer will most likely be yes. The internet is full of idiots/trolls and there is nothing you can do about this. I just hate the fact that these people are even allowed to have an opinion. It is clear that they have strong opinions about something they know fuck all about. I'm all for a democratic society but sometimes... *fumes with fury*

2) Just out of interest. Do you have any topics like these where idiots/trolls really piss you off?

 

[AdagioBoognish]

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Yeah, I recommend never reading comments. Nothing pisses me off more than scrolling through some of the bullshit statements that people feel like posting online. Go find a youtube video with the comments section disabled; it's beautiful and so peaceful.

 

[iseko]

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Yeah, I recommend never reading comments. Nothing pisses me off more than scrolling through some of the bullshit statements that people feel like posting online. Go find a youtube video with the comments section disabled; it's beautiful and so peaceful.

That is one way of handling this... Probably the best one for my health. Still, what infuriates me most is that these people make statements based on absolutely nothing (on all subjects). If you are just trolling then at least I could understand. But some of these people actually believe that the stuff they are saying is true. I once read a comment on how drugs don't cure cancer. LEMONWATER does. LEMONWATER. FUCKING LEMONWATER. (prob a troll but still)

I don't mind people having a different opinion as long as it is somewhat supported by fact. Or at least a logical theory. Something! If I have an opinion on something I know very little off I will also state this in my reply/answer. Most people don't seem to do that. I just... I can't... IT PISSES ME OFF! And when I tell them to back up their claims they:

A) tell me to go fuck myself
B) it happened to a friend (of a friend)
C) it's public knowledge and common sense

This is the point where I start breaking stuff.

Whenever the topic regarding Police using firearms comes up. Especially when there's the one moron who's never touched a weapon in his life going on how they should "shoot for the legs or something". If you have no idea about the subject you're arguing, don't fucking argue it.

I can see how that could piss you off. But since I know nothing about firing guns I'm not going to comment on this .

 

[Thaluikhain]

These are just two examples. There are many more out there. My question is two-fold.
1) Should I just ignore this kind of thing? I know the answer will most likely be yes. The internet is full of idiots/trolls and there is nothing you can do about this. I just hate the fact that these people are even allowed to have an opinion. It is clear that they have strong opinions about something they know fuck all about. I'm all for a democratic society but sometimes... *fumes with fury*

I read that as "furries with fury" at first.

Anyway, a while ago I heard (though not firsthand) about a woman who'd done some volunteer charity thing at a women's prison, and a few of the people incarcerated there didn't know that there is a connection between being pregnant and having sex.

Now, to me, that's a massive failure of the education system, or society in general. It's probably not those people's fault that they are extremely ignorant, and it's that sort of people that fill women's prisons.

If people are genuinely ignorant, instead of willfully ignorant, then they are to be pitied and informed, not despised. If they are willfully ignorant, then you are justified in saying "shut up or die"...though "shut up" is still a valid response to anyone speaking from ignorance, I suppose.

Whenever the topic regarding Police using firearms comes up. Especially when there's the one moron who's never touched a weapon in his life going on how they should "shoot for the legs or something". If you have no idea about the subject you're arguing, don't fucking argue it.

Argh, yes, every single time.

 

[iseko]

T*fumes with fury*

I read that as "furries with fury" at first.

Anyway, a while ago I heard (though not firsthand) about a woman who'd done some volunteer charity thing at a women's prison, and a few of the people incarcerated there didn't know that there is a connection between being pregnant and having sex.

Now, to me, that's a massive failure of the education system, or society in general. It's probably not those people's fault that they are extremely ignorant, and it's that sort of people that fill women's prisons.

If people are genuinely ignorant, instead of willfully ignorant, then they are to be pitied and informed, not despised. If they are willfully ignorant, then you are justified in saying "shut up or die"...though "shut up" is still a valid response to anyone speaking from ignorance, I suppose.

That is... wow. Jup, that is societies fault right there. And I'm not saying that people who don't know the answers have to die. I'm saying that people who are ignorant (willfully or not) should not defend an opinion that makes no sense and is based on nothing.

I can be of the opinion that the earth is flat. I can defend it with as many arguments as I like. Does not change the fact that my opinion is just plain stupid. If I had taken a moment to actually look this stuff up. To inform myself before I form an opinion. I would not be an ignorant ****. Now if I am to lazy to inform myself. That is fine as well. But then I have to shut up and let other people who actually do know something about the matter at hand talk.

And I think that that statement is quite fair. Properly inform yourself about the subject at hand. Review the information that you obtained in your thoughts. Form an opinion based on your own conclusions. Then start a discussion. People who don't go through that process but immediately start talking shit? Yes, they have to shut up (or die).

 

[Thaluikhain]

That is... wow. Jup, that is societies fault right there. And I'm not saying that people who don't know the answers have to die. I'm saying that people who are ignorant (willfully or not) should not defend an opinion that makes no sense and is based on nothing.

I can be of the opinion that the earth is flat. I can defend it with as many arguments as I like. Does not change the fact that my opinion is just plain stupid. If I had taken a moment to actually look this stuff up. To inform myself before I form an opinion. I would not be an ignorant ****. Now if I am to lazy to inform myself. That is fine as well. But then I have to shut up and let other people who actually do know something about the matter at hand talk.

And I think that that statement is quite fair. Properly inform yourself about the subject at hand. Review the information that you obtained in your thoughts. Form an opinion based on your own conclusions. Then start a discussion. People who don't go through that process but immediately start talking shit? Yes, they have to shut up (or die).

Problem is, it's often difficult to recognise if someone is willfully ignorant or not. It's also often difficult for someone to recognise if they themselves are ignorant or not, especially the willfully ignorant.

(Though, yeah, on the internet, you can always double check with 15 seconds of googling before you click "post")

 

[iseko]

Problem is, it's often difficult to recognise if someone is willfully ignorant or not. It's also often difficult for someone to recognise if they themselves are ignorant or not, especially the willfully ignorant.

(Though, yeah, on the internet, you can always double check with 15 seconds of googling before you click "post")

That I can understand. The difference is that if I am wrong and the evidence is presented (research papers, articles, hell even wikipedia) I can accept that I was wrong. It seems to me that only a small percentage of the people online are capable of this. And usually those are the people who know at least something about the matter at hand. Like the guy who said:

"I did not know AIDS had DNA". Some other guy explained it properly to him. He accepted that explanation. He was ignorant of the answer but he did not start shouting: "AIDS is an RNA virus you fucking morons". Which is why I can let that slide. He learned something from the discussion. Most people don't want to learn. No matter how much evidence you throw at them.

Ignorance might be a bliss but it is not an excuse.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Problem is, it's often difficult to recognise if someone is willfully ignorant or not. It's also often difficult for someone to recognise if they themselves are ignorant or not, especially the willfully ignorant.

(Though, yeah, on the internet, you can always double check with 15 seconds of googling before you click "post")

That I can understand. The difference is that if I am wrong and the evidence is presented (research papers, articles, hell even wikipedia) I can accept that I was wrong. It seems to me that only a small percentage of the people online are capable of this. And usually those are the people who know at least something about the matter at hand. Like the guy who said:

"I did not know AIDS had DNA". Some other guy explained it properly to him. He accepted that explanation. He was ignorant of the answer but he did not start shouting: "AIDS is an RNA virus you fucking morons". Which is why I can let that slide. He learned something from the discussion. Most people don't want to learn. No matter how much evidence you throw at them.

Ignorance might be a bliss but it is not an excuse.

Ah, yeah, that's an important distinction, true.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

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I've come to accept for the most part that ignorance, willful and otherwise, will always exist to either piss one off or make on feel better that one is not part of the crowd of morons the world seems to be ever populated by. We'll never see a society where ignorance doesn't exist, not in this lifetime.
We can blame society, but where does personal responsibility come in? Are we all then not responsible to educate ourselves when a system fails us? Do we get a free pass because its the fault of society?
I don't have an answer but I'd like to believe that we can't lay all faults at the feet of society in general.

 

[Epidemiix]

There are a lot of things that piss me off:
The news
People (What a bunch of yadda yadda)
That argument about vaccines
People talking about things that they don't understand. (Leading right into...)
American Politics(Heyo!)
People that are mean to dogs
Irregular, comma, usage,,,,(Not meant to offend anyone, just argh.)

But what pisses me off most of all...is the fact that I have had this fucking piece of steak stuck in my teeth for the better part of a day now, and I can't seem to get it the hell out. It's driving me insane.

 

[Verlander]

It's always frustrating when you know more about a hotly debated subject, particularly one with political connotations like medicine or tax, or even politics itself. I work in international corporate tax, and the nonsense that gets thrown around by both sides of the argument is exhausting. I try to correct people here and there, but in my experience people don't care - they've made up their mind and if you disagree, you're considered to be on the "other" side of the debate.

 

[LongAndShort]

I've studied economics, politics and religion. As a result I tend to read articles on these three subjects, and for some reason (I might be a masochist) I often find myself scrolling through the comments sections. Reading the arguments between those on the ignorant hard left and the ignorant hard right fluctuates between hilarious and terrifying.

And Jesus bloody Christ, I get sick of reading ridiculous comparisons between national economies and household budgets.

So yeah I get what you're saying.

 

[iseko]

It's always frustrating when you know more about a hotly debated subject, particularly one with political connotations like medicine or tax, or even politics itself. I work in international corporate tax, and the nonsense that gets thrown around by both sides of the argument is exhausting. I try to correct people here and there, but in my experience people don't care - they've made up their mind and if you disagree, you're considered to be on the "other" side of the debate.

This. So much this. I know roughly fuck all about what you do. So if you tell me something about how corporate taxing works I'd pretty much just nod. I might not agree on a few ethical things here and there but that is a different thing. I don't mind if people question the ethics of stem cells for example.

But yea, pretty much what you said.

 

[Thaluikhain]

We can blame society, but where does personal responsibility come in? Are we all then not responsible to educate ourselves when a system fails us? Do we get a free pass because its the fault of society?

Ah, but they've been brought up by society not to do so. The first point of fixing a problem is identifying and acknowledging it, after all. If there's a failure to spot there is a failure, then you don't get anywhere.

Of course, "society" is just up to 7 billion odd persons and their individual actions. "Society" is nobody's fault, but it's everyone's fualt.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

We can blame society, but where does personal responsibility come in? Are we all then not responsible to educate ourselves when a system fails us? Do we get a free pass because its the fault of society?

Ah, but they've been brought up by society not to do so. The first point of fixing a problem is identifying and acknowledging it, after all. If there's a failure to spot there is a failure, then you don't get anywhere.

Of course, "society" is just up to 7 billion odd persons and their individual actions. "Society" is nobody's fault, but it's everyone's fualt.

I just feel that (in the US) the biggest fault is letting an inefficient government handle education. All that seems to happen is they rearrange numbers around or give out passing grades to fudge their numbers and look better but in reality the problem still exists. There's no quick fix to anything though and there has to be a level of personal accountability attributed to these things.
Its a mess... I may be a smart person, just smart enough to know I don't have an answer to fix things just that there's a problem and its not being addressed, just blame-shifted.

 

[Verlander]

It's always frustrating when you know more about a hotly debated subject, particularly one with political connotations like medicine or tax, or even politics itself. I work in international corporate tax, and the nonsense that gets thrown around by both sides of the argument is exhausting. I try to correct people here and there, but in my experience people don't care - they've made up their mind and if you disagree, you're considered to be on the "other" side of the debate.

This. So much this. I know roughly fuck all about what you do. So if you tell me something about how corporate taxing works I'd pretty much just nod. I might not agree on a few ethical things here and there but that is a different thing. I don't mind if people question the ethics of stem cells for example.

But yea, pretty much what you said.

A recent example would be that in the UK, Starbucks and a few other companies were exposed to have avoided significant sums of tax. Now, opinions on the matter are one thing - most people think it's immoral, and I agree. It's also a risk that Starbucks would have considered when they chose to draw up their accounts in this manner. They came to the decision that the risk to their reputation was lower than the savings that they could have made, and after seeing how many Starbucks are still about, I'd argue that they were correct. I don't have an issue with someone having an opinion on this, I have one myself.

However, when people start to argue about reforming the tax system, or bringing down the corporations, or criticising the ineffective tax authorities... no. Just no. Unless you can provide me with a detailed explanation of what Starbucks even did (I can), you can't start suggesting ways to improve things. This is why I can't get on board with any political parties or ideologists that you would consider a "protest vote". Not because I necessarily disagree with them, but I have no faith that they are sufficiently equipped to even understand the current system of taxation, much less make any changes if they choose.

 

[SecondPrize]

Okay so this is mostly going to be a rant. A small disclaimer from the start: English is not my native language. Ok, let the ranting commence.

So I am a guy who works in the field of biology. Medical biotechnology to be precise. I have been interested in this stuff since I was 12. I don't know if it is coincidence but lately I have been reading a lot of articles on sites in this field (forums, blogs, ...) and the comment section is becoming really retarded. I encourage people who know little of these topics to educate themselves. However, saying stupid shit based on nothing really really really pisses me off. And I am not even sure if they are trolling or not. Example:

An article about a new AIDS testing kit. It would be faster, cheaper and simpler. It is based on a PCR technique that can be performed in a regular tube. It searches for viral DNA. Now come the comments:

I didn't know AIDS had DNA? (I can live with this one. It is know to be an RNA virus so a test that looks for viral DNA might be confusing)

Duh, ofcourse AIDS has DNA. All cells do...(shut up or die you ignorant fuck)

Another example: Replacing mitochondria from an embryo with healthy mitochondria. The media has dubbed this the three-way-parent technique. This could prevent diseases like mitochondrial myopathy. Comments were:

Why would you want this? A child should be just between a man and a woman. No third person needed.(shut up or die)

This is completely pointless. It will only add to the worlds population and make pharmaceutical companies $$$. They should ban this! (Don't shut up, just die)

These are just two examples. There are many more out there. My question is two-fold.
1) Should I just ignore this kind of thing? I know the answer will most likely be yes. The internet is full of idiots/trolls and there is nothing you can do about this. I just hate the fact that these people are even allowed to have an opinion. It is clear that they have strong opinions about something they know fuck all about. I'm all for a democratic society but sometimes... *fumes with fury*

2) Just out of interest. Do you have any topics like these where idiots/trolls really piss you off?

1. Should I just ignore this kind of thing? Hells yes you should. Idiots don't like being told they're wrong about stuff. If you're not able to address this stuff in a far more delicate manner than you have here and now, your current job status and future employability will be well served by you keeping your expert opinion on the matter to yourself.

 

[Headsprouter]

Yes. The Timesplitters Rewind pages. 75% of the people have no idea what's going on. So much so that my visibly irritated comment got liked by the people that own the damn page. The main issue is that people can't even read.

Spoiler: The latest post:

"Want to know how a HD TimeSplitters would look? check out these screenshots taking from the Dolphin Gamecube emulator at high resolution! the game looks absolutely stunning!"

It's pretty clear this is nothing to do with Rewind, and it's just screenshots from an emulator.

Third comment. 2 likes, or as I like to call them, fellow ignorants.

"Does this play more like Timesplitters 2 or is it linear crap like Timesplitters 3?"

Idiot. It IS Timesplitters 3. And every single game was linear, you retard. Did you even play them?

"Any news on Timesplitters Rewind?"

I understand this comment, with 7 likes. It's nothing to do with Rewind, they're just filling a gap with this one, and people are getting understandably frustrated with the lack of info.

"Seid the game featured in these screen shots is Timesplitters 3 I believe running on max settings on a pc emulator of the Gamecube. This was just an example of how the old games would look simply running on a higher resolution. If you are referring to the currently in progress Timesplitters Rewind fan project it is only multiplayer at this time. There is no campaign planned at the current time so your question can not really be answered."

Mr. 'English is not my first language' has a brain, and seems to read English better than the native speakers. Astounding.

"When can I finally play the game?"

This is not the game.

"make TS4 not a remake"

They're not in control of that! If you paid any attention you'd know that Crytek is being gracious by letting them do anything at all!

"Release it then?
Or are you waiting for christmas like everyone else?"

*facepalm*

"Thats great! When can I have it?"

*double facepalm*

"when is it out. I just lost my shit"

*triple facepalm*

"Notre Dame. YES"

(The page owners) "That isn't Notre Dame, that's the underground city from TimeSplitters Future Perfect"

(another idiot) "uhhhhh, that IS Notre Dame from TS2"

There's nothing more cringeworthy than thinking you understand something better than you do.

Spoiler: Separate spoiler for this wonderful tirade. It came in two parts.

"Im a huge fan of the timesplitters series but I dont see why your posting stuff about it if theres not going to be a new game out! Seriously its amnoying ive waited AGES for a new game & nothing ever comes out, yes I would love to say oh yh please keep teasing me with pictures that arent going to be real but sadly no im not buying it, i'll be more interested in the timesplitters games again when and IF there will be actually proof of a new game, until then its just silly posting stuff n saying "what if" ..."

"seriously i can't believe you said that, i think that the whole rewind thing is to get ppl more excited about nothing! otherwise it would of been out by now on ps3 or ps4..it's like call of duty...who the blooddy heck wants more cod games...they are crap nothing but shoot shoot shoot, no creativity in the game what so ever! its like cod being a driving game you go from the start to the end....timesplitters has a bundle load of creativity its flippin intense!!!!! but you know when you see something for the 1st time about a favourite game you like for yrs and think oh wow something called rewind, your going to thing NEED IT!!! but seriously like i said in my previous comment nothing is happening with it to me its bull. im all for wanting a new TS game but im not buying it. thats why everytime i see stuff about TS stuff i get annoyed."

That was a good laugh. Only it wasn't. It just makes me miserable.

And finally:

"just release the damn thing"

So seeing all this, the page owners decided my angry comment was not enough.

"Just to clarify for those confused, this is NOT from Rewind. This is captured in an emulator which you can do at home right now with the original games."

I have never felt so ashamed of my own fanbase. People who follow and claim to support a project they barely understand, for games they hardly even seem to know.

 

[iseko]

A recent example would be that in the UK, Starbucks and a few other countries were exposed to have avoided significant sums of tax. Now, opinions on the matter are one thing - most people think it's immoral, and I agree. It's also a risk that Starbucks would have considered when they chose to draw up their accounts in this manner. They came to the decision that the risk to their reputation was lower than the savings that they could have made, and after seeing how many Starbucks are still about, I'd argue that they were correct. I don't have an issue with someone having an opinion on this, I have one myself.

However, when people start to argue about reforming the tax system, or bringing down the corporations, or criticising the ineffective tax authorities... no. Just no. Unless you can provide me with a detailed explanation of what Starbucks even did (I can), you can't start suggesting ways to improve things. This is why I can't get on board with any political parties or ideologists that you would consider a "protest vote". Not because I necessarily disagree with them, but I have no faith that they are sufficiently equipped to even understand the current system of taxation, much less make any changes if they choose.

Hmm, would be a toughie for me. I live in belgium and here we have companies that don't pay tax. Well they do but due to our taxation system they can bend the rules and come out at a net 0% paid (roughly, could be 1-2%). And it is pretty much legal. Now I don't know how they do it. But since it is legal, I'm assuming our countries rules are fucked. HOWEVER, the taxation on wages is so incredibly high that it is still not very profitable to produce stuff in our country (t-shirts, refrigerators, cars,...). Only stuff that requires highly educated work personnel is being produced here. So, even though it is fucked up that they don't pay taxes, I would not change it. Out of fear of even more companies packing up their shit and shipping off to another country. Which makes me a liberal I suppose.

Now mind you, my opinion is based on very little actual knowledge of this topic. So you might say: nop, you're wrong. I'm not too vocal about this stuff if that counts xD.