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Lots of childrens' TV programming and a lot of different musical movements and acts for one thing.

I just don't recall actually watching any of the sort of typical childrens' programming (stuff like Sesame Street or Mr. Rogers) at any particular point in my childhood. Furthest back I can recall, I was already watching shit on Cartoon Network like Ed Edd n Eddy or Courage the Cowardly Dog.

On the music front, a lot of that development came when I was actually old and smart enough to go searching for music on my own. For a large part of my childhood the greatest exposure I had to any sort of music was largely limited to Gospel and other genres of "worship" music. Made for a lot of interesting interactions with my family when I'd ask them to buy an Offspring or SoaD CD (those same CDs are still stored on a shelf in my closet). They'd often buy it anyway and only freak out when they realized just what they'd bought. My defiance was pretty cemented at that point. Kind of silly how incredibly tame both of those acts are compared to some of the stuff I'm into now. Thank god the internet made finding all the bands I developed an interest in easy.

If I had to say something on the gaming front, it's that I didn't grow up with traditional fighting games. Most experience I had was SF2 Hyper Fighting on the SNES my grandparents had. Never played another game like it until 2008, and didn't start actually trying to get good at them until 2 or 3 years ago, when I moved to an area that has a healthy local community for these types of games. Now they're pretty much ingrained as an unavoidable part of my life. Genre is too addicting.
 

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A father... wait, this is about entertainment?

Super Nintendo. Where I grew up, tSega Genesis was everywhere but no SNES. I saw 1 when I was a kid and I didn't know what it was at the time, especially since I didn't have the internet back then to just look it up.

ObsidianJones said:
And speaking about weird things for Sports... Why aren't games like Soccer, Volleyball, and Baseball officially Co-ed? I'd legitimately be more interested in some sports if they were co-ed because you're drawing the best of the entire world, not just a segment.
Because men are better at sports than women. The women wouldn't be able to keep up. Biology is sexist like that.
 

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Vanilla ISIS said:
A father... wait, this is about entertainment?

Super Nintendo. Where I grew up, tSega Genesis was everywhere but no SNES. I saw 1 when I was a kid and I didn't know what it was at the time, especially since I didn't have the internet back then to just look it up.

ObsidianJones said:
And speaking about weird things for Sports... Why aren't games like Soccer, Volleyball, and Baseball officially Co-ed? I'd legitimately be more interested in some sports if they were co-ed because you're drawing the best of the entire world, not just a segment.
Because men are better at sports than women. The women wouldn't be able to keep up. Biology is sexist like that.
Oof.

I sort of emphathize because I never had a Grandfather.

One died when I was only a month old because he smoked and drank alot.

Another actually lived on most of my life, but I never grew too close to him because he suffered from a severe case of Parkinson's Disease. By the time I got older he could hardly speak at all and his movements were severely impaired.

With respect to my late grandfather by the time he was on his deathbed, he was almost like a Zombie. He was 80-ish years old by the time he died.
 
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Well I grew up in a tiny English village that runs to Quaker ideals, with quite protective parents who never got the house any kind of not-for-free television or games consoles. So there?s a lot of shows and games I missed out on...
 

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Friends.

Which is why I'm currently watching it on Netflix.
Your second line is more heartbreaking than the first.

OT: Could go many ways here, though some selections are more likely to be read as way more serious than I'd prefer. So will casually just throw out "videogames" as a vague memory of seeing the first GTA on somebody else's PC was a moment of awakening that there was this good shit hiding out there, amongst the daywalkers, that was being not shown to me like it was the other kiddos.
 

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My family didn't have money for videogames or consoles until after the playstation was released, so while I was aware of nintendo stuff and had played it a bit at friends places, I didn't have the nintendo childhood that seems to have informed so many of the people and games related writing I see. Nobody talks about the one flight simulator I played growing up on widows 3.
Same here, though the flight simulator in my case was MS Flight Simulator 1995 that I played on a 80486 with Windows 3.11. Like you, I didn't develop the almost fanatical appreciation for Nintendo that Americans have, thus am more objective towards the company and their games. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy the likes of Super Mario 64, Metroid, and quite a few of the N64/GameCube exclusives, but I'm not willing to bend over backwards to defend the shitty things Nintendo does.
 
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Grandparents, all four of mine had died by the time I was 2 years old.

Cable television. I was in high school by the time HBO was invented.

Gods I'm old.
 

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I missed out on The Ferals growing up. I only managed to catch a couple of episodes due to working as a young'en. Great children's programming.

Good socialist values for Australian youth. Fight the landlords and bogans.
 

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Final Fantasy. I had never played a single Final Fantasy game until FFX and Crystal Chronicles. My only understanding of the series until then was the cover of Final Fantasy 7 I would see in Blockbuster (RIP).
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Hawki said:
Unless you're Chris Stuckman, there's always going to be things you didn't grow up with. :p
What do you mean regarding Chris Stuckmann?
Stuckmman always claimed to grow up with some property. Some of which is impossible, and it seems like he is trying to score brownie points with whoever the target audience was for that property. I don't like the guy, because he's another asshole critic with an attitude problem and huge ego.

DarthCoercis said:
Don't know if it counts, but stuff like Pokemon. It came out after my time "growing up". A lot of the people I know rave about it, and I tried watching a few episodes to see if I could at least enjoy it enough to be able to properly join in the discussions about it, but I couldn't stand it.

Same with the explosion of anime. Sure, I watched quite a bit of it back in the 90s, but after I left uni I stopped and only recently tried it again. Holy gods I hate it. I recall watching stuff that was basically an animated take on adult shows/stories with a creativity that only the Japanese have, not constant upskirts, ridiculously oversized jelly-boobs and children that're "actually 1200 years old, so it's ok if they're trying to fuck the adult main character".

That said, these days I may be too

to understand or enjoy it.
The problem with a lot of modern anime today is that they're appealing mainly to the otaku. What doesn't help is that you have that otaku of old running the asylum. There are plenty of new anime that does not suffer from this, but you got to look really hard. Keep in mind though, the old days were not exactly perfect either, and had plenty of problems. Sure, there were more creative minds, but 90% of everything is crap. And for every good show or masterpiece, we got a golden turd or series/OVA/movie just as bad as any trashy Hollywood sequel. There pleny of anime from the 80s and 90s that had some racism, relied on national stereotypes, all style and no substance, or were just a constant gore fest. Sometimes all the above. Just ask Bennett the Sage.

Also, the loli that is 1000+ years old is nothing new. Tenchi Muyo (original series) did that in the 90s with Sasami, though it was implied she would be part of Tenchi's harem when becoming a full "adult".


Speaking of anime, while grew up on anime, most of it was on TV: UPN, WGN, CN (Toonami and Adult Swim), Fox Kids, The International Channel Which show some anime in sub or dub depending on the show. DBZ would be shown without subtitles for some strange reason, and ABC Family (formerly Fox Family). There are plenty of anime that only appeared on VHS/DVD that I have never seen. For example, I did not see Evangelion until it aired in 2006 in Adult Swim, which I fucking regret having to watch. At this point, I only watch anime that interest me.

Other things: Turbografx-16, Sega Saturn, Neo Geo (I still played many of their games in the arcade), Totally Spies (never liked it, and Kim Possible was always the superior show), Friends (Living Single is better), Full House (Utterely despised the show), Quantum Leap, and some other stuff I cannot remember at the moment.
 

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CoCage said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Hawki said:
Unless you're Chris Stuckman, there's always going to be things you didn't grow up with. :p
What do you mean regarding Chris Stuckmann?
Stuckmman always claimed to grow up with some property. Some of which is impossible, and it seems like he is trying to score brownie points with whoever the target audience was for that property. I don't like the guy, because he's another asshole critic with an attitude problem and huge ego.

DarthCoercis said:
Don't know if it counts, but stuff like Pokemon. It came out after my time "growing up". A lot of the people I know rave about it, and I tried watching a few episodes to see if I could at least enjoy it enough to be able to properly join in the discussions about it, but I couldn't stand it.

Same with the explosion of anime. Sure, I watched quite a bit of it back in the 90s, but after I left uni I stopped and only recently tried it again. Holy gods I hate it. I recall watching stuff that was basically an animated take on adult shows/stories with a creativity that only the Japanese have, not constant upskirts, ridiculously oversized jelly-boobs and children that're "actually 1200 years old, so it's ok if they're trying to fuck the adult main character".

That said, these days I may be too

to understand or enjoy it.
The problem with a lot of modern anime today is that they're appealing mainly to the otaku. What doesn't help is that you have that otaku of old running the asylum. There are plenty of new anime that does not suffer from this, but you got to look really hard. Keep in mind though, the old days were not exactly perfect either, and had plenty of problems. Sure, there were more creative minds, but 90% of everything is crap. And for every good show or masterpiece, we got a golden turd or series/OVA/movie just as bad as any trashy Hollywood sequel. There pleny of anime from the 80s and 90s that had some racism, relied on national stereotypes, all style and no substance, or were just a constant gore fest. Sometimes all the above. Just ask Bennett the Sage.

Also, the loli that is 1000+ years old is nothing new. Tenchi Muyo (original series) did that in the 90s with Sasami, though it was implied she would be part of Tenchi's harem when becoming a full "adult".


Speaking of anime, while grew up on anime, most of it was on TV: UPN, WGN, CN (Toonami and Adult Swim), Fox Kids, The International Channel Which show some anime in sub or dub depending on the show. DBZ would be shown without subtitles for some strange reason, and ABC Family (formerly Fox Family). There are plenty of anime that only appeared on VHS/DVD that I have never seen. For example, I did not see Evangelion until it aired in 2006 in Adult Swim, which I fucking regret having to watch. At this point, I only watch anime that interest me.

Other things: Turbografx-16, Sega Saturn, Neo Geo (I still played many of their games in the arcade), Totally Spies (never liked it, and Kim Possible was always the superior show), Friends (Living Single is better), Full House (Utterely despised the show), Quantum Leap, and some other stuff I cannot remember at the moment.
Its what I hate about most internet critcs, especially the movie reviewers, because they all just give off this obscenely pretentious air about them and I am like "you don't know what the fuck are you talking about!!"

Jeremy Jahns and Angry Joe are the least pretentious movie reviewers in my experiance.
 

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Im sure a lot of us fit in this boat: The Internet.

Was a novelty with very limited use for my childhood. Remember when research projects meant going to the library to sift through encyclopedias? When 3pm meant goodbye to any school kids you didnt want to deal with in your own time?

I dont totally buy into the 'kids these days just arent growing up right because of electronics!' but its undeniable that it's a very very different experience. I cant imagine what its like to deal with all the obstacles of learning to navigate life in general, when every problem becomes a 24/7 one because of how interconnected the world is online.
 

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Elijin said:
Im sure a lot of us fit in this boat: The Internet.

Was a novelty with very limited use for my childhood. Remember when research projects meant going to the library to sift through encyclopedias? When 3pm meant goodbye to any school kids you didnt want to deal with in your own time?

I dont totally buy into the 'kids these days just arent growing up right because of electronics!' but its undeniable that it's a very very different experience. I cant imagine what its like to deal with all the obstacles of learning to navigate life in general, when every problem becomes a 24/7 one because of how interconnected the world is online.
I am glad I never fully got into the internet when I was younger, otherwise I would have discovered 4chan and participated in it :p
 

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I should probably mention, I'm from australia, and when I was growing up we had very limited access to anime. It was almost never on tv, though we had 1 channel (cable wasn't a thing here til the mid-late 90s) that *might* play one or two movies a year (unless you count the american versions of Robotech and Astroboy, which were played as saturday morning cartoons). Usually Akira and Ninja Scroll, though I definitely remember seeing Urotsukidoji once or twice.

Hell, if you can point me in the direction of some stuff that's like the old cyberpunk(ish) and crime anime I used to watch, I'd appreciate it.
 

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As a kid I gamed mostly on PC and when I got a console it was a PlayStation 1 before I jumped onto the 360 when that generation started.

I didn't get a PS2 until my late teens so I never really grew up with any of the best known names of that era. A bit of a shame since I imagine I would've loved to play "Okami" or the PS2 era "Prince of Persia" trilogy or basically any of the games I've picked up for it since besides the horror games.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Jeremy never clicked with me, as review style I never liked, and it's barely improved. Angry Joe got worse, but even back then, at his "best" he had his moments in gaming and movies. For example, insulting anyone that did not like Transformers 2 back in 2009. And I dropped him in 2016, because his reviews got way too long, and were just full of padding regurgitating the same thing or gag filler. His attitudes on twitter and on some of his YouTube videos were not helping either.

DarthCoercis said:
CoCage said:
I should probably mention, I'm from australia, and when I was growing up we had very limited access to anime. It was almost never on tv, though we had 1 channel (cable wasn't a thing here til the mid-late 90s) that *might* play one or two movies a year (unless you count the american versions of Robotech and Astroboy, which were played as saturday morning cartoons). Usually Akira and Ninja Scroll, though I definitely remember seeing Urotsukidoji once or twice.

Hell, if you can point me in the direction of some stuff that's like the old cyberpunk(ish) and crime anime I used to watch, I'd appreciate it.
Wicket City
Cyber City Oedo 808
Gunsmith Cats
Fist of the Northstar
Fist of the Bluesky - Don't expect up a follow up unfortunately.
Big O
Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
Redline - Racing movie that combines Fast n Furious with Wacky Races. It's that awesome.
Ghost in the Shell (1995) and Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence
Black Lagoon - I don't like it, but the show will do wonders for you.
 

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CoCage said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Jeremy never clicked with me, as review style I never liked, and it's barely improved. Angry Joe got worse, but even back then, at his "best" he had his moments in gaming and movies. For example, insulting anyone that did not like Transformers 2 back in 2009. And I dropped him in 2016, because his reviews got way too long, and were just full of padding regurgitating the same thing or gag filler. His attitudes on twitter and on some of his YouTube videos were not helping either.

DarthCoercis said:
CoCage said:
I should probably mention, I'm from australia, and when I was growing up we had very limited access to anime. It was almost never on tv, though we had 1 channel (cable wasn't a thing here til the mid-late 90s) that *might* play one or two movies a year (unless you count the american versions of Robotech and Astroboy, which were played as saturday morning cartoons). Usually Akira and Ninja Scroll, though I definitely remember seeing Urotsukidoji once or twice.

Hell, if you can point me in the direction of some stuff that's like the old cyberpunk(ish) and crime anime I used to watch, I'd appreciate it.
Wicket City
Cyber City Oedo 808
Gunsmith Cats
Fist of the Northstar
Fist of the Bluesky - Don't expect up a follow up unfortunately.
Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
Redline - Racing movie that combines Fast n Furious with Wacky Races. It's that awesome.
Ghost in the Shell (1995) and Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence
Black Lagoon - I don't like it, but the show will do wonders for you.
He LIKED Transformers 2?!

Practically the most universally panned movie of all the Bayformers movies?!
 

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ObsidianJones said:
And speaking about weird things for Sports... Why aren't games like Soccer, Volleyball, and Baseball officially Co-ed? I'd legitimately be more interested in some sports if they were co-ed because you're drawing the best of the entire world, not just a segment.
Regarding Volleyball... The gender difference is actually silly when you watch the games. Mens net is 6" higher than womens (to a total of 8') and men are still absolutely crushing volleyballs. Mens game is all about raw power and setting up your strongest attack, womens is more about placement and tactics generally.

Lower levels can play co-ed but again men tend to have a natural advantage (i.e. height) but there are other factors as well.