This week, in season 1 of "The Xbox One PR disaster"

[Miss G.]

I can see lots of people doing this:

1) Turn on Xbox.

2) Unplug Xbox from TV.

I suppose MS could use the Kinect they've shoved down everyone's throats to see whether people are still in the room, but that would be too Orwellian even for...

A additional step is required.

3) Create dummy to fool Kinect using pillows and old clothes (bonus points if a Guy Fawkes mask is used as the face).

Unless the dummy has a body temp and a pulse the kinect will demand you show yourself.

 

[Miss G.]

Playstation 4 and get some insanely powerful hardware?

They are pretty much equally powerful. The gap between them is remarkably smaller than the X360 and PS3.

How so? Almost half of the xbone's *GB of RAM is taken up by it's OS straight out of the gate and if you want more technical answers you can check the tech spec review of both systems here.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/game/3452022/ps4-vs-xbox-one-comparison-review/

 

[A Weakgeek]

Playstation 4 and get some insanely powerful hardware?

They are pretty much equally powerful. The gap between them is remarkably smaller than the X360 and PS3.

How so? Almost half of the xbone's *GB of RAM is taken up by it's OS straight out of the gate and if you want more technical answers you can check the tech spec review of both systems here.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/game/3452022/ps4-vs-xbox-one-comparison-review/

I don't really see how your link proves your point. The comparison shows the ps3 has marginally better cpu, and that the type of RAM it uses is slightly faster. (Can't say anything about your claim about the OS and ram, since it wasnt mentioned.)

My point is, compared to the current gen, those differences are trivial at best. It's literally going to come down to the optimization done by the devs making exclusives, since multiplatform titles are mostlikely going to look and run pretty much identically. (Which wasn't the case for current gen, because PS3 had weird ass architecture)

 

[Nomadic Fanatic]

So let me get this straight... The Xbone is going to start making people watch the advertisements....

I give up on them. Screw those guys.

 

[Z of the Na'vi]

...getting just a bit petty now, guys.

Turn on your Xbox, put in the game disc, play the game. That's all you have to do. Don't even worry about ads.

[sub]There's even a preference in the system settings that lets you skip the Dashboard entirely when a disc is in the tray. :/[/sub]

 

[Evonisia]

...getting just a bit petty now, guys.

Turn on your Xbox, put in the game disc, play the game. That's all you have to do. Don't even worry about ads.

[sub]There's even a preference in the system settings that lets you skip the Dashboard entirely when a disc is in the tray. :/[/sub]

Pretty much this, unless they're going to pop up adverts during gameplay (such as seeing a billboard for the latest product in insert GTA Clone here 75 the 8th Generation), it's entirely ignorable.

I don't see many people complaining about the insane adverts we have on 360 right now.

 

[Miss G.]

Playstation 4 and get some insanely powerful hardware?

They are pretty much equally powerful. The gap between them is remarkably smaller than the X360 and PS3.

How so? Almost half of the xbone's *GB of RAM is taken up by it's OS straight out of the gate and if you want more technical answers you can check the tech spec review of both systems here.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/game/3452022/ps4-vs-xbox-one-comparison-review/

I don't really see how your link proves your point. The comparison shows the ps3 has marginally better cpu, and that the type of RAM it uses is slightly faster. (Can't say anything about your claim about the OS and ram, since it wasnt mentioned.)

My point is, compared to the current gen, those differences are trivial at best. It's literally going to come down to the optimization done by the devs making exclusives, since multiplatform titles are mostlikely going to look and run pretty much identically. (Which wasn't the case for current gen, because PS3 had weird ass architecture)

They both have 8GB of RAM but the box IS running Windows 8 for all those non-gaming functions (that may not be in this article but you have know its part of the damned system by now and you have to take that into account) which automatically means less power is going to gaming, while the PS4 doesn't come with that setback. In that regard buying an xbone is like buying a variety pack that only comes with one thing that I actually like (games) vs buying a PS4 which is like outright buying a pack of my favorite thing (more games).

 

[shirkbot]

Wehlp, I'm out. I have actually heard so much nonsense from Microsoft and their precious marketing team that I am now physically incapable of caring about anything regarding the Xbone. They could come out tomorrow and say that it cures cancer, and I'd still just shake my head in disappointment and find something else to think about.

 

[Smeatza]

snip

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/xbox-one-hardware-compared-to-playstation-4

There seems to be some suggestion that the PS4's architecture is much better suited for video game and graphical processing, compared to the XBone which is more like a traditional PC.

 

[doomed89]

Isn't the whole point of achievements supposed to be that they're something we're happy or proud to have accomplished? Who would want to earn an achievement based on watching adds?
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| . . . . . . . . Achievement Unlocked: Indoctrination . . . . . . . . |
| . . . . . . . . . . [sub]Wasted 2 hours of life staring at advertisements[/sub] . . . . . . . . . . |
|_______________________________________________|​

Now I'll have something to brag to my friends about.

Yeah that's something MS didn't think about, in the same way people don't want hanna montana on their list they won't want this advertisement crap because everyone will know they are a tool. Their incentive is more of a deterrent lol.

I have to laugh at kneejerk commets like this. Why do you invest so much emotions when this console is not for you? You just come off as really bitter.

Because if enough people buy this fucking thing, all of their bullshit might just gain enough traction to one day become ubiquitous?

Why do so many think consumer transactions are some sort of one-on-one exchange that doesn't affect anyone else? What you buy influences the market place. What you're willing to accept, and which consumer rights you're willing to jettison, may very well end up affecting me and my choices in the market place. For this reason, I have every right to point at someone supporting Xbone and say "thank you for contributing to the worsening state of the industry, fuckwit".

Edit: and as for the disdain for my use of the term "tool", the pervading definition of the word, as an insult: "One who lacks the mental capacity to know he is being used." I think that very accurately describes a person who willingly installs an advertising machine in his/her home when a perfectly comparable (and far less offensive) equivalent exists.

I completely agree tool is the perfect word to describe anyone who buys a xbone. I'm one of those people that people jump on for drawing the line in the sand early (dashboard ads + paying online was a massive reason I didn't get 360) but they don't realize things will get worse and worse, so even if you are okay with how it is now I can guarantee you won't be okay with how it ends and since you aren't drawing a line and you are attacking me for drawing a line you are helping them reach that horrible end result which makes you a tool. Even if there are other reasons you want to buy the console for and you just don't mind this horrible crap at least admit it's horrible crap don't go around defending it.

 

[cikame]

Well you know what Don Mattrick would say...
"Fortunately we already have a product for people who hate advertising, it's called the original Xbox".

 

[Elvis Starburst]

Weeeeeeeeeee! Things just keep getting better and better! =D *slips this reason for hating the console and Microsoft's job of handling it into its folder in my filing cabinet... And struggles* It won't fit, the folder is too big o.o

Anyways, yeah. This should be fun...

 

[GoaThief]

Playstation 4 and get some insanely powerful hardware?

They are pretty much equally powerful. The gap between them is remarkably smaller than the X360 and PS3.

How so? Almost half of the xbone's *GB of RAM is taken up by it's OS straight out of the gate and if you want more technical answers you can check the tech spec review of both systems here.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/game/3452022/ps4-vs-xbox-one-comparison-review/

There's no way anyone can seriously downplay 1.2 Tflops vs 1.8, the 50% more raw graphical horsepower the PS4 has is fucking huge. Much larger gap between the two new systems than the previous generation, and this is without accounting for OS resources. The RAM situation cannot really be marginalised either.

 

[Vrach]

Am I wrong or are there no more Halo games and the next closest thing is Destiny... which is coming out on the PS4?

MS still owns Halo, so someone is definitely working on the next installment for Xbone. Maybe the guys who did the last one? I honestly have no idea who, but it is undoubtedly on the way.

Yeah, but Bungie are doing Destiny and it seems very Halo-inspired and I don't think I've heard of new Halo games being developed.

 

[Miss G.]

Playstation 4 and get some insanely powerful hardware?

They are pretty much equally powerful. The gap between them is remarkably smaller than the X360 and PS3.

How so? Almost half of the xbone's *GB of RAM is taken up by it's OS straight out of the gate and if you want more technical answers you can check the tech spec review of both systems here.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/game/3452022/ps4-vs-xbox-one-comparison-review/

There's no way anyone can seriously downplay 1.2 Tflops vs 1.8, the 50% more raw graphical horsepower the PS4 has is fucking huge. Much larger gap between the two new systems than the previous generation, and this is without accounting for OS resources. The RAM situation cannot really be marginalised either.

A Weekgeek didn't seem to agree. That's why I put the link to the current gen specs for them to see and they still replied to my post like they seriously didn't know about the Windows 8 nonsense you and I are talking about while acting like I even mentioned the PS3 anywhere in my first post.

 

[TrulyBritish]

imagine if Jehovah's Witnesses started handing out badges and cookies

THEY HAND OUT COOKIES?!?!?!

WHERE IS THE NEAREST JEHOVAH WITNESS?!?

I don't know about you, but I'm just going to try and seduce Jehovah's Witnesses the next time they show up at my door. At worst, they'll just leave me alone forever, and at best.....

OT: Eh, this really won't have that big an effect in the grand scheme of things. Both the people who were going to buy an XBOX one are such rabid fanboys that even if it released live hornets into their houses, they'd buy it anyway.

Is it even possible to seduce a Jehovahs witness? Aren't they too distracted witnessing stuff or something...?
I really want some cookies now.....
OT: Ah-heh-eenyhow, I agree, this sin't going to change anyones minds by this stage, but the idea of achievements for watching adverts grates me so much... *grinds teeth*
captcha: "That's all, folks". Thanks for the late insight captcha.

 

[Maximum Bert]

I just dont get why thee are ads anyway I pay for the console I pay for the games I pay for online (which is bullshit but has become excepted enough for Sony to get away with the same bullshit) and I still have to have ads.

There is just reason they should be there most people dont like ads.

 

[A Weakgeek]

Playstation 4 and get some insanely powerful hardware?

They are pretty much equally powerful. The gap between them is remarkably smaller than the X360 and PS3.

How so? Almost half of the xbone's *GB of RAM is taken up by it's OS straight out of the gate and if you want more technical answers you can check the tech spec review of both systems here.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/game/3452022/ps4-vs-xbox-one-comparison-review/

There's no way anyone can seriously downplay 1.2 Tflops vs 1.8, the 50% more raw graphical horsepower the PS4 has is fucking huge. Much larger gap between the two new systems than the previous generation, and this is without accounting for OS resources. The RAM situation cannot really be marginalised either.

A Weekgeek didn't seem to agree. That's why I put the link to the current gen specs for them to see and they still replied to my post like they seriously didn't know about the Windows 8 nonsense you and I are talking about while acting like I even mentioned the PS3 anywhere in my first post.

Playstation 4 and get some insanely powerful hardware?

They are pretty much equally powerful. The gap between them is remarkably smaller than the X360 and PS3.

How so? Almost half of the xbone's *GB of RAM is taken up by it's OS straight out of the gate and if you want more technical answers you can check the tech spec review of both systems here.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/game/3452022/ps4-vs-xbox-one-comparison-review/

There's no way anyone can seriously downplay 1.2 Tflops vs 1.8, the 50% more raw graphical horsepower the PS4 has is fucking huge. Much larger gap between the two new systems than the previous generation, and this is without accounting for OS resources. The RAM situation cannot really be marginalised either.

Once I found some time to devote for it, I did actually do more searching about the CPUs.

... Microsoft can't make up the difference in clock speed alone (AMD's GCN seems to top out around 1GHz on 28nm), and based on current leaks it looks like both MS and Sony are running their GPUs at the same 800MHz clock. The result is a 33% reduction in compute power, from 1.84 TFLOPs in the PS4 to 1.23 TFLOPs in the Xbox One.

So yeah, while 50% seems to be exaggerating, the difference is larger than I originally percieved. That was 100% my bad.

For the record though, my purpouse was not to spread misinformation, nor do I hold loyalty to one company over the other. I have 0 plans to buy either console. and the machine I'm using to post this has far superior specs anyway.

The reason why I play devils advocate is that it has become obvious that the whole console war has already been blown out of proportions, and people have become much more interested in the spectacle than actual facts.

 

[mbarker]

Um, there's no way to turn off the random ads that take up a minimum of 20% (and up to 50%) of the screen at all times that an actual application isn't booted up with the CURRENT xBox.

Why are you supposing the new one's going to be lighter on them?

I view this option of getting something from clicking on the ad and viewing the ad is better than having it streaming on your dashboard and you getting nothing for it.


It would be cool if MS went lighter on ads, but I don't think they will.

what's infuriating though is the fact I am paying MS for XBL and that doesn't provide me the advantage of not having a huge ass ad on my dashboard.

 

[Easton Dark]

THEY HAND OUT COOKIES?!?!?!

WHERE IS THE NEAREST JEHOVAH WITNESS?!?

Why did you get a warning for this? That's going against what the mods have said before.

Am I wrong or are there no more Halo games and the next closest thing is Destiny... which is coming out on the PS4?

MS still owns Halo, so someone is definitely working on the next installment for Xbone. Maybe the guys who did the last one? I honestly have no idea who, but it is undoubtedly on the way.

Yeah, but Bungie are doing Destiny and it seems very Halo-inspired and I don't think I've heard of new Halo games being developed.

Halo 5 is being made... did you not see the reveal of master chief at E3?

OT:

This is actually a bit old. But it's no less unpleasant to hear about.