I really don't quite get how exactly this is going to work along with storyline and lore, but I also don't follow Thor at all so maybe it's something that could be easily explained. I will say, however, that she looks totally badass.
Thor Is Getting Gender-Flipped. Officially.
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vid87 said:
No Thor will still exist as Thor it's just this woman will also be using the name Thor and be the star of the Thor monthly.
If your wondering why, Marvel can't just sit back and watch DC f**k up they have to join in too.
BrotherRool said:
DC didn't cancel Young Justice, Cartoon Network cancelled it because the toys didn't sell and neither Mattel or Hasbro were interested in paying for the rights to make toys when a third year was offered.
I think the regular Thor will turn now into King Thor and switch Mjolnir for the battle axe Jarnbjorn... I'm ok with the news of a female Thor the only thing I would change is her hair color (not blonde because same name same color as male Thor? and not red because Angela)
That only happened in the ultimate universe not the mainstream universe that people actually care about.scotth266 said:
One of the issues with the toys was that cartoon was attracting a broad demographic and they didn't want to deal with the hassle of selling toys to non-boys. Apparently when they make cartoons they want the cartoons to be for just boys or just girls to make the toy marketing simpler, but whilst Young Justice was attracting a good audience, it was also a broad audience and that put off the toy manufacturers.youji itami said:
Frickin' Awesome...I'm all for this! I love the concept art for her (or those two pics that I'm guessing are concept art). Does make me wonder what some other "gender-flipped" (as this isn't a true gender-flipping) heroes/villains might look like. Imagine, for instance, what a female Juggernaut would look like. :3
Is that true It is successful? as in boucoup's of money wed be stupid to cancel this successful? because People can blog and write articles about how great a lady rep is that ms marvel is a great whatever but if thats all people do is go."awe bout time" and then dont buy it well....BrotherRool said:
But yeah Money successful or just popular?
On topic: ive been out of reading my old staples of thor , cap and the invaders because right now they have all been bland to me. Im definitely digging the look though.
I'm fine with it. I think this is just a stunt. In another story line down the road they will make Thor "worthy" again. Also... Thor is his name. The Odinson or the Lord of Living Lightning... those are titles. It doesn't make sense to call her Thor. Loki is Loki's name. In a storyline, they literally flipped the characters sex, so the name stuck. Thor still exists in the Marvel Universe. Other's have pointed out that other people have been worthy of Thor's power. My favorite being Beta Ray Bill.
I don't think that a female gender character has to necessarily have female stereotypes, but being a female significantly changes a persons worldview. Our Worldviews inform every aspect of ourselves, so to say that there is no difference besides a few sex specific traits isn't entirely accurate. That said, this day in age, I feel that most people would be somewhat familiar with the idea that a woman can act "manly" but still be a woman and guy can act "effeminate" and not be less of a man.
EDIT: One major thing this has the potential to mess up is Marvel's pretty decent continuity. DC messes up their continuity so bad, that they have rebooted it a bunch of times. Marvel has established storylines in "the future" where Thor is a man. Moves like this run the risk of destroying the continuity of the universe, which is a stupid mistake to make.
Well, in defense of what is happening, they didn't just slap breasts on the character. That wouldn't be a gender swap, it would be a sex swap. Gender is a lot more than just sex, though sex is a big part of it. There is a whole social and political aspect to "gender" that is beyond sex.Lunncal said:
I don't think that a female gender character has to necessarily have female stereotypes, but being a female significantly changes a persons worldview. Our Worldviews inform every aspect of ourselves, so to say that there is no difference besides a few sex specific traits isn't entirely accurate. That said, this day in age, I feel that most people would be somewhat familiar with the idea that a woman can act "manly" but still be a woman and guy can act "effeminate" and not be less of a man.
EDIT: One major thing this has the potential to mess up is Marvel's pretty decent continuity. DC messes up their continuity so bad, that they have rebooted it a bunch of times. Marvel has established storylines in "the future" where Thor is a man. Moves like this run the risk of destroying the continuity of the universe, which is a stupid mistake to make.
It's Marvel's fictional version of a mythological being, they can do what they want.Elfgore said:
They could make the worth of Thor be determined by how many stacks of paperwork she fills out in the Asgardian Affairs Bureau.
But as Thor doesn't particularly cleave close to the mythology of old, I have to ask: who the hell cares?
Also, I reckon if you have the power of a God, you can call yourself what you damn well please.
Hmmm, this looks like an interesting read considering the design overall looks awesome.
Anyone make a stab at Ubisoft yet?... ok, i'll shoot:
I just hope it didn't take the artist double the work to make the character. Making teh grils iz tuu herd after all!
/bad joke.
Anyone make a stab at Ubisoft yet?... ok, i'll shoot:
I just hope it didn't take the artist double the work to make the character. Making teh grils iz tuu herd after all!
/bad joke.
Right, and I guess they will recast Thor for the new avengers movie because they want to push the "Thor is a girl now" agenda?
Nobody believes those comic books publicity stunts. Like we believed Superman getting married, Captain America getting killed or Batman dying were going to be lasting, world changing events. They couldn't even keep Barbara Gordon on a wheelchair, and everybody believed it was a positive growth arc for the character. At most, she will be "Thor" for a few issues, before the popularity of the movies make the "classic" Thor come back and, if we are lucky, she will still be around the Marvel universe as a new character with a new identity.
Nobody believes those comic books publicity stunts. Like we believed Superman getting married, Captain America getting killed or Batman dying were going to be lasting, world changing events. They couldn't even keep Barbara Gordon on a wheelchair, and everybody believed it was a positive growth arc for the character. At most, she will be "Thor" for a few issues, before the popularity of the movies make the "classic" Thor come back and, if we are lucky, she will still be around the Marvel universe as a new character with a new identity.
Seriously? I mean....Wow, this is Thor, it's his name, not a title, the title is God of Thunder...So yeah, this is kind of insane. If Marvel wanted to have a Female in the "Avenger's Trinity", they should have just promoted Captain Marvel more, she is awesome an is a female to start with.
Or, if they need to make this change...Why not turn Ironman or Captain America into females? Ironman is an armor, sure, Tony is the guy who makes it work, but it is easier to replace him than a god. And Captain America is the same thing, it's a title, they could actually introduce a female character that can take the place, since the Super Soldier Serum isn't working anymore, it would be nice...And Falcon would continue to be Falcon, as i prefer.
Or, if they need to make this change...Why not turn Ironman or Captain America into females? Ironman is an armor, sure, Tony is the guy who makes it work, but it is easier to replace him than a god. And Captain America is the same thing, it's a title, they could actually introduce a female character that can take the place, since the Super Soldier Serum isn't working anymore, it would be nice...And Falcon would continue to be Falcon, as i prefer.
I'm all for the "strong female character" type, but couldn't they have come up with something new, instead of switching out an existing male character?
Anyway, I feel they've missed a trick in saying it is time to changing it from a male Thor and then not replacing him with a sentient dish towel, floating around with Mjolnir wrapped up in it's mighty grip. Or one of those fancy fridges with a tv and a water dispenser on it.
Anyway, I feel they've missed a trick in saying it is time to changing it from a male Thor and then not replacing him with a sentient dish towel, floating around with Mjolnir wrapped up in it's mighty grip. Or one of those fancy fridges with a tv and a water dispenser on it.
Why does this keep happening to things that I like? Seriously? Go gender-flip Doctor Who or Zelda. Leave Thor alone. I can think of at least 30 super heroes I'd rather have this happen to. Like Captain America, Black Panther, Daredevil, hell, make a female Punisher. But leave Spider-Man, Thor, Winter Soldier, and 90% of the X-Men alone. Except Cyclops. Can you gender-swap Cyclops, I think that would be funny.
But I know that Thor is still in the Marvel Universe just "depowered" and I know that he's going to come back in 26 months after Lady-Thor ruins his credibility with the press and his family and the state of New York (Like another character who was "Temporarily Changed" recently).
Seriously, this needs to start happening to things that I don't care about.
But I know that Thor is still in the Marvel Universe just "depowered" and I know that he's going to come back in 26 months after Lady-Thor ruins his credibility with the press and his family and the state of New York (Like another character who was "Temporarily Changed" recently).
Seriously, this needs to start happening to things that I don't care about.
I feel as though they aren't using comic books inherent... well, look, I know a lot of people here are really into these things, so I don't want to use the word "ridiculousness", but let's face it, there's a good degree of whimsy here.
I mean, come on man, this is escapism! "Well, he got sacked and replaced with a woman" is too real! (also, trigger warning?) Give us "He got zapped by a Gender-reversal ray made by rule-63 universe Hitler!"
(Though, to be fair, they can still save this: S/He got zapped by a gender reversal ray made by rule-63 universe Hitler, but in the future, so now s/he has to go back in time, steal his/her own job and get his/her past self to fake his/her own death prior to his/her past selves aforementioned zapping. Meaning no one will be any the wiser, and rule-63 universe Hitler's moral victory is thwarted!)
I mean, come on man, this is escapism! "Well, he got sacked and replaced with a woman" is too real! (also, trigger warning?) Give us "He got zapped by a Gender-reversal ray made by rule-63 universe Hitler!"
(Though, to be fair, they can still save this: S/He got zapped by a gender reversal ray made by rule-63 universe Hitler, but in the future, so now s/he has to go back in time, steal his/her own job and get his/her past self to fake his/her own death prior to his/her past selves aforementioned zapping. Meaning no one will be any the wiser, and rule-63 universe Hitler's moral victory is thwarted!)
A bit of an odd choice, flipping Captain America or Iron-(wo)Man would make a bit more sense, as they're mostly just mantles that people wear. But I guess they didn't want to pull any punches, so figured "hey, if we're gonna flip a hero, let's flip the most powerful hero!"
Hopefully the new Thor will stay as powerful, and won't follow the trend of making the she-version half as strong so they can look like the porn stars they're traced from.
Hopefully the new Thor will stay as powerful, and won't follow the trend of making the she-version half as strong so they can look like the porn stars they're traced from.
As much as they say this is not temporary, I don't think it will stick. Just like new Spiderman didn't