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Traun

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As the title suggest this will include some form of nostalgia, however I will like to note that I am not going to talk about some mythical age when games were gut, but will instead talk about the times in which games were there. Also, as I am not a professional, or even experienced writer on those issue, this is probably going to contain ?holes? and um?well??opinion?. So after discrediting myself ? let?s go. Oh, and I will keep it short ? no need to say more then I should.

I am a PC gamer and therefore I have my biases, everyone does and I applaud those who have it in themselves to admit it and no ? the PC is not above Xbox, PS or the Wii, cut it out, this is not a console war. So as a PC gamer the best years of gaming were 1998 ? 2001 and this is the period I would like to talk about. Now straight to the core, here is a small list of games released by the year (skip it if you feel like it):

1998 ? Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, StarCraft, Unreal, Tom Clancy?s Rainbow Six, Fallout 2, Grim Fandango, Half-Life, Thief: The Dark Project, Baldur?s Gate, King?s Quest, Myth II.

1999 ? Heroes of Might and Magic III, Counter-Strike (ok, it?s a mod), System Shock 2, C&C: Tiberian Sun, FF VIII, Homeworld, Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings, Ultima IX, Nocturne, Unreal Tournament, Quake III Arena and the much underrated Planescape: Torment.

2000 ? The Sims, Thief II, NFS, Shogun: Total War, Diablo II, Icewind Dale, C&C: Red Alert 2, Escape from Monkey Island, MechWarrior 4: Vengeance.

2001 ? Serious Sam: The First Encounter, Black & White, Baldur?s Gate II: Throne of Bhall, Arcanum, Civ III, Empire Earth and Grand Theft Auto III.

They were great games, no argument here ? this is not the point. In those four years there was a giant in every genre ? 4x, TBS, Shooters (Single and Multiplayer both), Simulators ( God or Life ), RPG, Hack & Slash, RTS, Quest and mashes between them. Today ? not so much.

The Quest genre was pretty much dead until recently, the TBS is as good as gone (thank you for King?s Bounty Katauri, keep up the good work), RTS is getting less and less attention (and would have died if not for Blizzard), the God Simulators?are not there, and the 4x has been pretty much Civilization ( guys, check out Elemental: War of Magic ) and RPG?s are becoming?less RPG ( in recent times Bioware is giving the player as much influence over the plot as Square-Enix (which doesn?t mean I didn?t buy DA:O or ME 2). On the upside shooter are getting more attention, but then again they pretty much offer the same experience (think about it guys Half-Life ?Unreal Tournament - Serious Sam ? Counter-Strike, all games that gave you a gun, but ultimately felt completely different ). Not to mention the poor fans of Homeworld, who are still waiting for a strategy game of the same caliber.

Now I wouldn?t talk about this if it didn?t affected me, I am the type of gamer snob that enjoys mostly RTS and TBS games and those genres?are not in the best shape. Except Relic and Blizzard there is no developer who really works in the RTS field. Turn-Based strategy (strategy, not combat) is still waiting for the game to top Heroes of Might and Magic III. A lot of my friends stopped gaming not because they outgrew games, but because there was nothing there that interests them (one of them occasionally asks me if any RTS game is coming, but unless I inform him, he wouldn?t know, he doesn?t have a good reason to follow the gaming world(and is not a Blizzard fan)).

I know that the time will come when TBS strategy games and the others will be reborn, it is inevitable, but I find it regrettable that almost no game developer cares for those of us, who aren?t in mainstream gaming, I just wish that the wheel will turn faster. I am missing the days when I could go into the store and see a variety of genres.
 

Diet Chaos

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I have to admit, sometimes I get a tired of all the shooters. I'm not pointing any fingers, but the most widely-known shooters have attracted many who will play but a single genre.

I myself am, admittedly, a fan of shooters, but once in a while, a good puzzle game is nice, but it's uncommon for one to be seen outside of the Xbox Live Arcade.
 

OpiateChicken

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With regards to TBS, have you ever tried out Fire Emblem for GBA? That game was pretty alright. Although it was made a few years ago now.

But I mostly agree with you. It seems like the only genres that really are being milked these days are shooting, casual (guitar hero/rock band, etc.) and more shooting. Even non-shooting games have shooting in them. I do like shooters, but I wish we could see more quality RPGs (classic ones--other than FF), more RTS (here's lookin' at you, Blizzard... SC2 12 years in dev. and counting...) and hack-and-slash RPG (again, 10 years in dev, wtf).
 

Raven191

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I will agree that those were great games and a great time for gaming industry as a whole. Though I am liking the massive number of cooperative games that are coming out such as Killing Floor and L4D(2).
 

Traun

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AjimboB said:
I prefer gaming now. In the past, there were a few big titles to choose from, and that was pretty much it. These days, there are's about 100x more games coming out in a year then there ever were before. More games means more choice in what to play, and I think that most people would agree that choice is a good thing.
This is not true - the time required to make a game means that games can no longer be made in a year or under and the financial issues are severely limiting some people.

AjimboB said:
Sure, there aren't nearly as many TBS or RTS games as there are shooters, but that doesn't mean they're gone. These genres haven't even shrunk, the other genres have just expanded. There are just as many RTS games released every year as there were in 1998-2001, if not more, it's just that they get less publicity, and have smaller launches. Are they gone? No, they aren't, they're just more obscure then they used to be.
You will have to forgive me if I don't take you for your word, in 2010 there are only 4 RTS games planed, most of them are fitting the description loosely. And this obscurity is part of the issue. Not everyone can follow the gaming news zealously enough to notice the one or two occasion/s in which the title they are interested is mentioned, in fact most people can't.
 

Traun

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AjimboB said:
So...you're saying it's better for everyone when there are fewer games, because it allows you to focus on just them.
No, what gave you that impression?

AjimboB said:
Maybe you just aren't willing to put in the effort to learn about the games you want. Pretty much, what I see from your post is nothing but nostalgia, and the wish to go back to a simpler time. This is the same reason that people used to hate rock music, and why old people today dislike videogames. In the future, I foresee that you're going to be one of those people crying out against whatever new trend is presenting itself.
Is there any reason to turn this into something personal?