Thoughts on the PC gamer "master race"
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As a primary PC gamer, I only say "PC master race" as a joke. Sure, I like some of the stuff we have (Steam, mouse + keyboard support), but I like some console stuff too (splitscreen, not being cramped in a chair and leaning into a small monitor).
Better suited? For what? The only thing consoles do better than PCs is convenience. That is LITERALLY the ONLY thing a console has on a PC. It's the only pro a console has. Seriously. In every other possible category you'd judge a gaming platform on, PC wins.Souplex said:
PCs have:
-superior controls (it takes a whole lot more to make M+K work on a console than to make a gamepad work on a PC)
-superior graphics
-superior hardware (512MB RAM... how cute. I think I had a PC with that much in the early to mid 00s)
-near infinite backwards compatibility
-a superior library of games (most AAAs see a PC release plus the hundreds of amazing indie games)
-lower overall price (the entry cost is more than a console, but the savings overtime with a PC is undeniably superior)
-(Usually) Superior community
-Mods
-Thousands upon thousands of additional functions that tangentially relate to gaming
Now tell me... how are consoles better suited than PCs? These are the reasons why people say "PC master race" not ironically: the PC really, truly, objectively is the superior platform for games. It's not opinion, but hard fact. Like I said, the only "pro" consoles have is that they are easy to set up.
Eh, to each their own. I prefer Consoles mainly because I don't have a million dollars or decades of spare time to make an epic gaming pc, so when I play PC games the graphics are inherently worse. And despite playing often on Mouse and Keyboard, it still never feels as natural as a controller. But that's because I was raised on them, just as PCers were raised on M+K. I don't like RTS's and no other game type is really "better" on PC then controller other then those. So I'm sorry, PC and Consoles BOTH have a place in the world. Until of course the home computer becomes a thing of the past due to tablets/smart phones and more PC-esque consoles. I'm sorry, its true. Just as someday THOSE things will die out.
I play on the PC for three reasons.
Mouse and keyboard are better for most kinds of games, and for the games that are better with a controller I can plug one into my USB port.
It is less expensive by far. I can pre-order a new release on PC for $45 when it is $60 for console. Steam sales also rule.
I like user created content and modifications. On PC many game companies make rooms for mod markers on their official forums. On console these people get banned.
Does that mean console users are peasants? No. It just means I buy 90% of my games on the PC.
Mouse and keyboard are better for most kinds of games, and for the games that are better with a controller I can plug one into my USB port.
It is less expensive by far. I can pre-order a new release on PC for $45 when it is $60 for console. Steam sales also rule.
I like user created content and modifications. On PC many game companies make rooms for mod markers on their official forums. On console these people get banned.
Does that mean console users are peasants? No. It just means I buy 90% of my games on the PC.
Too much work for something still problematic. I could unplug my labyrinth of twisted cords, hook it up to a TV and marvel in absolutely piss-all standard TV graphics...Matthew94 said:
But you still have the keyboard and mouse problem. You can't put on your lap, you have to put it on some solid table. And what are you doing? The same thing, sitting at the edge of your seat, leaning over your keyboard and staring at a screen that's only bigger and further away.
I'm sticking with my desk and monitor.
This. The vast majority of people who use it are joking. Anyone who takes it serious needs slapped upside the head.QuadrAlien said:Well, seeing as I'm pretty sure the phrase originated as a joke in Yahtzee's review of The Witcher, the fact that said phrase might now being taken seriously by some people is downright frightening, to say the least.
How are the 90s treating you? Well, I hope. Listen, you haven't had to spend "a million dollars" on a gaming PC in years. That's a silly myth that has been perpetuated for far too long. Hardware costs at an all time low when you and factor in the extended length of this console generation, then PC gaming is cheaper than it ever has been. You can easily spend 400-600 and make a rig that will play every game for the next couple of years on high. You could make a rig so powerful that frightens young children with $1000.AdeptaSororitas said:
Yeah, you did have to spend thousands of dollars to make an "epic gaming PC" in the 90s, but not anymore. I'm tired of this tired myth getting brought up every time there's a thread about PC gaming. Just... stop. Seriously. It's not current to think you have to spend an exuberant amount on a gaming PC anymore.
I don't mean to pick on you in particular, by the way. You just happened to be the first person I noticed who mentioned the whole "a gaming PC is stupid expensive". It's just this silly myth that really rubs me the wrong way... I guess it's a pet peeve of mine.
Um, I'm far better using a controller on FPS's and TPS's then M+K and I'm pretty good with Mouse and Keyboard. The whole "Mouse is more precise" things doesn't really hold water much anymore.Matthew94 said:
And while thats true, few games each year come out that I actually want. And all of them are cross platform *shrugs*
Instead PC fanboys are 20 year-olds elitist d*cks who spend most of their time telling people they don't know (and themselves) that they're better than everyone who decides to play games on a platform they don't own.Cprl Caboose said:
I 100% agree with you, but this thread's just going to turn into a flame-war. They are too many people on this site who have too many self-esteem issues to admit that they're just being stubborn arseholes to people who choose to live life in a different way to them.Gearhead mk2 said:
I think the idea that console gaming is somehow cheaper than PC is flawed - console gamers all pay the same price (if you buy new), but PC gamers differ wildly in setup and hardware. It's next to impossible to calculate an average of what a PC gamer spends on their habit, because no two PC's are the same unless they are brand new and bought from the same retailer. Sure, a guy who only buys alienware laptops to play high-end games on the go is a bigger spender than most console players - but a guy like me, who has a 4 year old PC that's only recieved a gfx card upgrade and a few crucial replacements and playing mostly free or semi-free games is spending a lot less than your average console gamer.
This be the truth. The only "gaming master race" (which was a joke/insult to begin with) is the one that actually considers *gasp* the games themselves to what's important. You can find well designed quality games on all platforms and the "best" system really just depends on what games you personally enjoy.Space Spoons said:
In terms of hardware and limitations, PC comes out on top. However, for people who do not have the money(yes I am aware making a gaming computer doesnt cost as much as people think) consoles are a better choice. A lot of people also enjoy the pnp aspect of just puting a disk in the system and playing, instead of waiting for the game to download(to those people, they are impatient, it generally takes less than an hour and you only have to do it once, however, all the power to them).
Some people just like controllers more than a keyboard, and in that case, im pretty sure there are controllers that you can plug into your computer =P. Some games just control better on a console(the bioshock port was just terrible).
I am primarily a PC gamer nowadays, I did grow up playing on consoles, and I still plug in my N64 or Gamecube to play some Zelda. People do need to get over themselves with the superiority complex some people seem to have(on both "sides"), I mean seriously...its freaking video games and the people who play them, not the Allies and the Axis powers here. In the end, regardless of what you believe, it doesnt matter.
Some people just like controllers more than a keyboard, and in that case, im pretty sure there are controllers that you can plug into your computer =P. Some games just control better on a console(the bioshock port was just terrible).
I am primarily a PC gamer nowadays, I did grow up playing on consoles, and I still plug in my N64 or Gamecube to play some Zelda. People do need to get over themselves with the superiority complex some people seem to have(on both "sides"), I mean seriously...its freaking video games and the people who play them, not the Allies and the Axis powers here. In the end, regardless of what you believe, it doesnt matter.
They don't act like that unless you are a console gamer. At least PC gamers are generally nice to people within their own community, unlike console players who are pretty well huge dicks to everyone.The-Epicly-Named-Man said:
See another post I made in this thread, and a few other posts as well. You can have an opinion on which you LIKE better, sure, but you can't deny that PC is the objectively superior platform. That's all there really is to it. PCs win on almost every single criterion you could judge a gaming platform on; thus, they are the superior platform. It's quite simple arithmetic.The-Epicly-Named-Man said:
It's like comparing a Honda Civic and a Lamborghini Murcielago. Sure, you might like the Civic better, but it's pretty gosh darn silly to say that a Civic is a better car than a Lamborghini.
You need to learn what a Hyperbole is sir. Yes I know it doesn't cost a million dollars but a thousand dollars is still a crazy large amount when I can get ALL THREE CONSOLES for the same or cheaper. I understand the price can be pretty low if you do it yourself or you know were to shop. I however just got a new laptop, and I have no interest in figuring out the technicals on how to upgrade a pc. Also, the most recent generation of consoles has been out for a loooong while, so it isn't as though they are a lot to invest in. Plus I know that everytime I pop a new game in it will play. PC's have issues all the time, they can get viruses or software can corrupt. It's messy business.Stall said:
And no, no level of self satisfaction matters to me, it is just annoying when people brag about "Oh I was XXX hours upgrading my PC so now I can run REAL LIFE on higher graphics"
Nothing personal to you sir, it just frustrates me that people assume I can drop 1000 bucks on a new PC when i can barely pay for college.
Why are you idiots still going on about this? There are a million threads about this and every single one has some idiot claiming PC gaming is dying, consoles are better etc all of which is countered with proof refuting their claim.
Until people arguing the console side can give some non anecdotal, objective proof, shut up. Until then, accept the fact that it's only your opinion.
Until people arguing the console side can give some non anecdotal, objective proof, shut up. Until then, accept the fact that it's only your opinion.