Thrall is back in Blizzard's new WOW Cinematic. And its the Trailer quality Cinematic.

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Man....I guess Blizzard is doing this to fill in the void of a Warcraft movie sequel.

I just wish they bite the bullet and made their own 2 hour movie entirely like this.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
I just wish they bite the bullet and made their own 2 hour movie entirely like this.
They tried and failed. Warcraft's lore really deserved a better movie.
 

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CaitSeith said:
Samtemdo8 said:
I just wish they bite the bullet and made their own 2 hour movie entirely like this.
They tried and failed. Warcraft's lore really deserved a better movie.
I said like this, not with Live Action actors. And done in house and no movie studios like Universal and third party director.
 

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I just... I still don't understand why they made a movie out of Warcraft 1, Warcraft 3 was the obvious choice to make a movie of, could have made it as a trilogy with the Human/Arthas campaign as the first 1 (the best story of the franchise to hook people), followed by the orc campaign and finally the night elf/final battle.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
CaitSeith said:
Samtemdo8 said:
I just wish they bite the bullet and made their own 2 hour movie entirely like this.
They tried and failed. Warcraft's lore really deserved a better movie.
I said like this, not with Live Action actors. And done in house and no movie studios like Universal and third party director.
I doubt it would end up better than Kingsglaive: Final Fantasy XV. Oh, boy! That felt like a 100 minutes long videogame cutscene.
 

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Meiam said:
I just... I still don't understand why they made a movie out of Warcraft 1, Warcraft 3 was the obvious choice to make a movie of, could have made it as a trilogy with the Human/Arthas campaign as the first 1 (the best story of the franchise to hook people), followed by the orc campaign and finally the night elf/final battle.
Yeah they could have made the story of the First and Second War as background and worldbuilding lore. And it would have made for an interesting way to start the franchise.

A fantasy story where Humans fighting Orcs isn't the main story?
 

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Varok: Where is your family?

Thrall: Do you know how much these CGI trailers cost to make? We don't have the budget for them.

Also, did Thrall just pick up his own Stormbreaker?

Meiam said:
I just... I still don't understand why they made a movie out of Warcraft 1, Warcraft 3 was the obvious choice to make a movie of, could have made it as a trilogy with the Human/Arthas campaign as the first 1 (the best story of the franchise to hook people), followed by the orc campaign and finally the night elf/final battle.
Because when you're adapting something, usually skipping to the third installment usually isn't the best idea?
 

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Hawki said:
Varok: Where is your family?

Thrall: Do you know how much these CGI trailers cost to make? We don't have the budget for them.

Also, did Thrall just pick up his own Stormbreaker?

Meiam said:
I just... I still don't understand why they made a movie out of Warcraft 1, Warcraft 3 was the obvious choice to make a movie of, could have made it as a trilogy with the Human/Arthas campaign as the first 1 (the best story of the franchise to hook people), followed by the orc campaign and finally the night elf/final battle.
Because when you're adapting something, usually skipping to the third installment usually isn't the best idea?
I said it before and I will say it again. Then Game of Thrones should have started at Robert's Rebellion.

And what is Stormbreaker? Don't know any weapon in Warcraft with that name?
 

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Sylvanas Windrunner: Utterly incapable of not fucking things up.
Goddamn whatever voice was speaking in Vol'jin's head when he made Slyvanas Warchief with his dying breath.

It's probably N'zoth
 

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Hawki said:
Meiam said:
I just... I still don't understand why they made a movie out of Warcraft 1, Warcraft 3 was the obvious choice to make a movie of, could have made it as a trilogy with the Human/Arthas campaign as the first 1 (the best story of the franchise to hook people), followed by the orc campaign and finally the night elf/final battle.
Because when you're adapting something, usually skipping to the third installment usually isn't the best idea?
Warcraft 3 far outsold 1 and 2, most people started warcraft started at number 3 and skipping the previous story didn't reduce there enjoyment of 3. I started at 2 (played 1 but literally couldn't read english back then so I had no idea what the story was) and I never felt like I was missing any kind of background.

It'd be like saying that starting star wars at episode 4 is a bad idea because you'd be missing out on the prequel story.
 

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I know I haven't played wow since the last patch came out (which was approximately 17 years ago)

But that trailer didn't tell me anything, nor did it make sense, nor was it interesting
This is what happens when you are that out of the loop.
 

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I've never cared for WoW, like at all. I actually think it's kind of a terrible game, but man Blizzard makes a good cinematic. I always love watching them.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
I said it before and I will say it again. Then Game of Thrones should have started at Robert's Rebellion.
Said it before and I'll say it again - no.

Do a prequel series if you have to, but it wouldn't fit as part of the same series.

And what is Stormbreaker? Don't know any weapon in Warcraft with that name?
Thor's weapon.

Thrall took inspiration from Thor (the Marvel character), so it stands to reason that the Doomhammer takes inspiration from Mjolnir. Ergo, when Thrall picks up an axe, Stormbreaker is what comes to mind.

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Warcraft 3 far outsold 1 and 2, most people started warcraft started at number 3 and skipping the previous story didn't reduce there enjoyment of 3. I started at 2 (played 1 but literally couldn't read english back then so I had no idea what the story was) and I never felt like I was missing any kind of background.
I started at 3, but the only way you're going to get the context for 3 is through reading the manual. Films don't work with manuals, so if you went straight into three, not only would you have to tell a story (and arguably 4-5 films to get the full story in terms of plot structure), but you'd also have to get a heap of backstory out of the way as well.

It'd be like saying that starting star wars at episode 4 is a bad idea because you'd be missing out on the prequel story.
Difference being that A New Hope was written as the first film, Warcraft III wasn't written as the first game.

Also, you can get the generalities of ANH quickly - Empire bad, Rebels good. Warcraft III? That's more "orcs were bad, but now they're not bad, bigger bads are coming, Alliance was good, now not so good, etc.
 

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undeadsuitor said:
Samtemdo8 said:
undeadsuitor said:
I know I haven't played wow since the last patch came out (which was approximately 17 years ago)

But that trailer didn't tell me anything, nor did it make sense, nor was it interesting
This is what happens when you are that out of the loop.
Out of the loop? I played the very last content patch.
What was the name of the content patch?
 

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I've never cared for WoW, like at all. I actually think it's kind of a terrible game, but man Blizzard makes a good cinematic. I always love watching them.
You should care now because they are releasing Classic WOW in August 27. So if you missed it out from the beginning you can start now.

Because Current WOW sucks for a lot of people but Classic was when WOW was good....allegedly.
 

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Hawki said:
Meiam said:
Warcraft 3 far outsold 1 and 2, most people started warcraft started at number 3 and skipping the previous story didn't reduce there enjoyment of 3. I started at 2 (played 1 but literally couldn't read english back then so I had no idea what the story was) and I never felt like I was missing any kind of background.
I started at 3, but the only way you're going to get the context for 3 is through reading the manual. Films don't work with manuals, so if you went straight into three, not only would you have to tell a story (and arguably 4-5 films to get the full story in terms of plot structure), but you'd also have to get a heap of backstory out of the way as well.

It'd be like saying that starting star wars at episode 4 is a bad idea because you'd be missing out on the prequel story.
Difference being that A New Hope was written as the first film, Warcraft III wasn't written as the first game.

Also, you can get the generalities of ANH quickly - Empire bad, Rebels good. Warcraft III? That's more "orcs were bad, but now they're not bad, bigger bads are coming, Alliance was good, now not so good, etc.
I didn't read the manual before playing, neither did most people. It's pretty easy to establish that orc aren't all bad, the tutorial/demo does it pretty easily where Thrall rescue enslaved Orc from a Human camp. 1 and 2 plot structure was really flimsy in the games anyway, you're really not missing out much by skipping those.

The hobbit was written before lord of the ring, are you missing out if you skip it and go straight for the movie?
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
You should care now because they are releasing Classic WOW in August 27. So if you missed it out from the beginning you can start now.

Because Current WOW sucks for a lot of people but Classic was when WOW was good....allegedly.
Don't care when WoW was supposedly good or not. All I know is that I'm not fond of MMOs, and ergo, WoW isn't for me, even though the RTS games were.

Thank god for Wowpedia, otherwise I'd be lost at this point (if I'm not already).

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I didn't read the manual before playing, neither did most people. It's pretty easy to establish that orc aren't all bad, the tutorial/demo does it pretty easily where Thrall rescue enslaved Orc from a Human camp. 1 and 2 plot structure was really flimsy in the games anyway, you're really not missing out much by skipping those.
I can't comment on "most people," all I can comment on that when I first played WC3 in an Internet cafe, I was lost in terms of plot. Like, who are these people? Even in the game itself, there's no hard distinction between Thrall's Horde and the "Old Horde." The Alliance treats them as being synonymous.

And yes, 1 and 2 have thin plots (I've played them), but they're still part of the story. So when Medivh reveals himself in-game, I was left to ask "um...is this someone I'm meant to know?"

Can you go straight into WC3 and get the gist of things? Yes. Hwoever, films don't have the same luxuries games and books do when it comes to exposition, and I can't think of many adaptations that intentionally jump to a later installment as their first work (e.g. Chronicles of Narnia adaptations have never started with The Magician's Nephew), but usually I can get the reason why.

The hobbit was written before lord of the ring, are you missing out if you skip it and go straight for the movie?
Are you talking about the films, books, or jumping over?

If talking about the films, no - the Hobbit trilogy is framed as a flashback, though I'd actually argue it would be better to start off with the Hobbit if you were a first time viewer. If talking about the books, I'd actually reccomend starting with the Hobbit. Even though a lot of the Hobbit is tangental to Lord of the Rings, it's a much faster and easier read that doesn't take long, so it's a better introduction to Middle-earth than Lord of the Rings.

Since this is being used in reference to Warcraft, there's not the same divide. The Hobbit is separate from LotR in everything from tone, to length, to structure. WC1/2 are still games like 3. Granted, Beyond the Dark Portal kind of closes the storyline in a sense, but that's still a lot of stuff. Like, if I were given reign to make a series of Warcraft movies, I'd go:

-Orcs and Humans
-Tides of Darkness
-Beyond the Dark Portal
-Lord of the Clans

And THEN think about adapting Reign of Chaos, which would have to be split into a number of movies due to its increased length and campaign structure.

This, of course, is assuming we have to do movies and not a TV series.