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ChromeAlchemist

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Here's the summary headline:

Three men have been found guilty of plotting to blow up planes above the Atlantic with home-made liquid bombs.
A jury convicted ringleader Abdulla Ahmed Ali, 28, of conspiring to activate bombs disguised as drinks.
Tanvir Hussain, 28, and Assad Sarwar, 29, were also found guilty of the same charge at Woolwich Crown Court.
The verdicts follow one of the UK's longest terror inquiries. The men's arrests in 2006 led to airport restrictions on liquids.
Ali, Hussain and Sarwar were previously found guilty of conspiracy to murder involving liquid bombs - but that jury could not decide whether their plans extended to detonating the devices on planes.
Now a second jury has decided that such a terror plot did exist.
With thousands killed in the air and on the ground, the explosions could have caused more devastation than the September 11 attacks.

The rest of the story can be found on the link.

No flaming please, no anti religious antics either, if you're going to talk about religion, keep it civil.

The thing that gets me about this is...do they realise what they are getting them and "their people" into? I mean I saw a video on the news, and the ringleader was saying "I wish I could do this again and again and again...until you realise don't mess with the muslims" but the public aren't messing with the muslims! If this plan went ahead and came to fruition...we may well have seen the public start messing with the Muslims and it wouldn't have been nice.

The only thing this actually does is add fuel to the fire and give the BNP and NF momentum. That's all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8242238.stm
 

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They strike at the civilians that have nothing to do with their troubles... thus proving that they need to be crushed in an iron fist, if only to protect the innocents.
they just keep on digging that hole deeper and deeper.
This world, and some of it's people, truly sicken me to the core some times.
 

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Greyfox105 said:
They strike at the civilians that have nothing to do with their troubles... thus proving that they need to be crushed in an iron fist, if only to protect the innocents.
they just keep on digging that hole deeper and deeper.
This world, and some of it's people, truly sicken me to the core some times.
And the thing is, this is just more leverage to go into Pakistan, unless we haven't already (remember what Obama said at his rallies?) as reports say these guys took orders from people residing in Pakistan. The government is going to get ignorant and use this the way they see fit.
 

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ChromeAlchemist said:
The thing that gets me about this is...do they realise what they are getting them and "their people" into? I mean I saw a video on the news, and the ringleader was saying "I wish I could do this again and again and again...until you realise don't mess with the muslims" but the public aren't messing with the muslims! If this plan went ahead and came to fruition...we may well have seen the public start messing with the Muslims and it wouldn't have been nice.
This is the most important part I think. They think westerners are anti-Muslim at the moment. Do they really think it would change if a group of Muslims murdered thousands of people?

I can't imagine the "fear" would stop people from taking "justice" into their own hands, racism would rise, the BNP would gain credibility and soldiers in the Middle East would take "revenge" on prisoners.

Macksheath said:
Its at times like this I curse religion; its a useless thing-of-the-past, and so many people have died over it its just unreal. You can't drink it. You can't eat it. It doesn't keep you warm. Yet some people think its the best thing the world ever shat out.

Funny how you completely missed out reading this bit huh?

ChromeAlchemist said:
No flaming please, no anti religious antics either, if you're going to talk about religion, keep it civil.
 

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They're brainwashed by the higher up terrorists who use the religion to encourage people to blow up Americans.
 

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Macksheath said:
Its at times like this I curse religion; its a useless thing-of-the-past, and so many people have died over it its just unreal. You can't drink it. You can't eat it. It doesn't keep you warm. Yet some people think its the best thing the world ever shat out.
The people are brainwashed by the leaders of groups like the Taliban. The leaders don't give a shit about Religion, they just use it to get a bunch of people pissed at Americans.
 

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well it might just be a message to the government's of the world(or at least the ones that apply.) to get the fuck out of the middle east, but it could just be brainwashed threat's of violence.
 

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Machines Are Us said:
ChromeAlchemist said:
The thing that gets me about this is...do they realise what they are getting them and "their people" into? I mean I saw a video on the news, and the ringleader was saying "I wish I could do this again and again and again...until you realise don't mess with the muslims" but the public aren't messing with the muslims! If this plan went ahead and came to fruition...we may well have seen the public start messing with the Muslims and it wouldn't have been nice.
This is the most important part I think. They think westerners are anti-Muslim at the moment. Do they really think it would change if a group of Muslims murdered thousands of people?

I can't imagine the "fear" would stop people from taking "justice" into their own hands, racism would rise, the BNP would gain credibility and soldiers in the Middle East would take "revenge" on prisoners.
Exactly why I really do wish to understand the mindset they must be in. I guess it's easy to take your own life as well as others (in terms of suicide bombing), you don't have to witness the repurcussions of your actions to the very same people you claim you are doing it for.

robert632 said:
well it might just be a message to the government's of the world(or at least the ones that apply.) to get the fuck out of the middle east, but it could just be brainwashed threat's of violence.
And yet it will be the exact opposite. Once we're gone from Iraq, off to Pakistan, and this just gives more incentive to go, as this is where a lot of the bombing orders were given from. It's only going to get worse, I wonder how people will see Obama after a year or two?
 

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ChromeAlchemist said:
Machines Are Us said:
ChromeAlchemist said:
robert632 said:
well it might just be a message to the government's of the world(or at least the ones that apply.) to get the fuck out of the middle east, but it could just be brainwashed threat's of violence.
And yet it will be the exact opposite. Once we're gone from Iraq, off to Pakistan, and this just gives more incentive to go, as this is where a lot of the bombing orders were given from. It's only going to get worse, I wonder how people will see Obama after a year or two?
which is why obama is almost destiened to become known as a bad president. he's backed into a corner. he can either continue with the war, and hope against hope this dies down in his reign, or he can cut his losses and leave, just to probably have to go back to fight even more terrorist's coming out of there/he just sit's there and takes it.