Marathon is on there. Obviously this list is smart! They did hit my favorite games, though I question Mass Effect 3, and I'd replace Oblivion with Morrowind or Skyrim.
Time magazine's All-TIME Top 100 games
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Not a bad list, though it seems that oftentimes 'best' is partly equated with 'influential'.
But then again, that is often the case with lists like these. I can understand why some games were included, given their impact on the industry and gaming in general, even if I don't consider them to be all that good.
But then again, that is often the case with lists like these. I can understand why some games were included, given their impact on the industry and gaming in general, even if I don't consider them to be all that good.
Ooh. Shadow of the Colossus and ICO are on there. Nice.
Too bad games like Final Fantasy IX, Metal Gear Solid 3, and Fallout: New Vegas aren't on the list. But hey, what are you going to do?
Too bad games like Final Fantasy IX, Metal Gear Solid 3, and Fallout: New Vegas aren't on the list. But hey, what are you going to do?
There are a few things I'd like to take out and a few things I'd like to put in. I mean, no Crash or Spyro? I'd have at least one. Also Bastion. Twice. And did someone mention Psychonauts?
But overall a good, pretty well thought out list. Certainly the best I've seen so far.
But overall a good, pretty well thought out list. Certainly the best I've seen so far.
It's a list of safe choices, although some are just plain stupid.
None of these games have aged gracefully. GTA3 is practically unplayable after you've experienced all the game-play improvements in the follow ups.
This is not the kind of list you would get from an actual gamer. This is the kind list you would get if you kidnapped a 54 year old investment baker, tied him to chair, and told him you would kill him AND his family if he couldn't name 100 different video games.
I will admit that these games have historical significance, but that's it. No serious film critic would ever put 'Exiting the Facotry' on a list of Top 100 Films, but any time someone puts together a list of top games of all time it always 'gotta put PONG on there!'Time said:
None of these games have aged gracefully. GTA3 is practically unplayable after you've experienced all the game-play improvements in the follow ups.
Are you dead fucking serious?Time said:
This is not the kind of list you would get from an actual gamer. This is the kind list you would get if you kidnapped a 54 year old investment baker, tied him to chair, and told him you would kill him AND his family if he couldn't name 100 different video games.
Pretty solid list overall, and I can actually see a justification for the vast majority of entries, even in the cases where I don't agree on their inclusion.
The problem I have with lists like this, however, is that there is no distinction made between influence and quality. There have been many games that have been influential but have not always been great games, even for their time (to name a couple from the list, Mortal Kombat and Leisure Suit Larry). Conversely, there are also games that are great but are more a product of evolution rather than something that could truly be considered groundbreaking or truly innovative (again from the list, Oblivion and Final Fantasy Tactics).
The problem I have with lists like this, however, is that there is no distinction made between influence and quality. There have been many games that have been influential but have not always been great games, even for their time (to name a couple from the list, Mortal Kombat and Leisure Suit Larry). Conversely, there are also games that are great but are more a product of evolution rather than something that could truly be considered groundbreaking or truly innovative (again from the list, Oblivion and Final Fantasy Tactics).
It's actually one of the better lists I've seen.
I would add:
Skyrim
Wind Waker
Fallout 3
Mass Effect 2
ACII
I would take out:
Flower
Gears of War
Arkham City
Desk Top Tower Defense
I would add:
Skyrim
Wind Waker
Fallout 3
Mass Effect 2
ACII
I would take out:
Flower
Gears of War
Arkham City
Desk Top Tower Defense
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I think Oblivion was the good middle ground on that one.
Story/World wise it wasn't as good as Morrowind but it was miles better than Skyrim.
Combat wise it was miles better than Morrowind but behind Skyrim.
Good middle ground.
OT: No Planescape? That seems odd
That is because games generally don't age as well as films do so if we truly only consider games on how good they are by todays standards and not over all based on when they did come out we would only have games from this gen with a few odd balls outside that.T_ConX said:
OT: No Ocarina of time or smash bros that really surprises me less smash bros but Ocarina really needs to be on their. I consider smash bros because it is so popular and unique.
.... why is oblivion there for doing the exact same thing morrowind did except earlier and much better and morrowind isn't?
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here a direct quote from the leisure suit Larry pageAD-Stu said:
Remember King?s Quest from a few slides back? Imagine King?s Quest, except the hero is a loser in a leisure suit and the goal of the game is to score with women. And there?s nudity?sort of ? blocky, pixellated, 1987-era computer game nudity.
Leisure Suit Larry was porn you really had to work for. You played as Larry, a nerdy-looking salesman who lived in a city called Lost Wages and spent the majority of his time looking for love. If you?ve seen The 40 Year-Old Virgin, Larry?s less likable and more desperate than Steve Carell?s character.
Lest you think the game is merely computerized smut, it won the award for ?Best Fantasy, Role Playing or Adventure Game? from the Software Publishers Association the year it came out. Oh, and due to the game?s adult nature, it wasn?t even marketed or publicized initially. A humor-filled adventure game that wasn?t bashful about showing some skin? The world hadn?t seen anything like it.
There's no Persona 4.
The list loses all credibility.
Seriously, why no Persona 4? It boggles my mind that Okami can make the list but not Persona 4.
The list loses all credibility.
Seriously, why no Persona 4? It boggles my mind that Okami can make the list but not Persona 4.
Not a bad list. A few notable exceptions but I'd expect that from a mainstream publication like Time. I think I've played about 95% of those games.
It's not a terrible list, really. Obviously put together by people who are at least decently aware of video games. That said, and as others mentioned, obviously there are a few games on there that likely shouldn't be, and who's position on the list are most likely skewed by bias, apparent popularity or general ignorance. I'd be more inclined to switch out a few with similar games rather than replace them with completely unrelated titles.
I imagine it starting as a lighthearted, quirky drama which quickly spirals into a tragically existential tale that questions the nature of free will as characters and events seem to be manipulated by some celestial puppeteer. Written by Charlie Kaufman.Akytalusia said:a sims movie? what the hell would it be about?
Seems like this list was put together by people who have had a passing interest in games and just put down titles they've heard of. I can see some of these, but why are titles like Mortal Kombat, Doom, Splinter Cell, etc. on their instead of their clearly superior sequels? And Mass Effect 3? No, just no.
First and foremost, it's obvious that the list isn't about what games people find the most amusing but rather what games were most influential at the time. That being said, I'm surprised there aren't games like Dragon Warrior, League of Legends or FarmVille. While there are certainly games I question on that list, like Oblivion instead of Morrowind and Flower instead of Journey, I think the list is pretty darn solid. I see a lot of games that turned into huge franchises, influenced their respective franchises heavily, are the pinnacle (at the time) of their respective fields or created entirely new genres of games. Overall, excellent list and I agree with about 95% of it.
No TIE Fighter?
No Wasteland or Fallout?
No Last Ninja?
No Baldur's Gate?
Still, I did find many other games that I thoroughly enjoyed, so the list isn't totally rotten.
As far as Command and Conquer goes, it was just Dune II with a different skin, group select and lousy cutscenes.
** flees for a bunker before the C&C fans order airstrikes **
No Wasteland or Fallout?
No Last Ninja?
No Baldur's Gate?
Still, I did find many other games that I thoroughly enjoyed, so the list isn't totally rotten.
As far as Command and Conquer goes, it was just Dune II with a different skin, group select and lousy cutscenes.
** flees for a bunker before the C&C fans order airstrikes **