Time travel will never be possible.

Biosophilogical

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hiks89 said:
the truth is humanity will never invent a time machine in there existence otherwise they would have already come back and tell us stuff about the future and they haven't so the 5 billion years leading up to the sun going supernova and swallowing Mercury Venus and earth before finally exploding humanity will not master the fifth dimension. but humanity may finally collonise planets in other star systems and survive for millenia after >_<
First off, why are you saying that time is the fifth dimension when apart from time our reality only has three (the three dimension that make up 'space' (length, width and depth)) so wouldn't it be the fourth, and secondly i applaud your idea of more than four dimensions as there are eleven (that we know of)<-- we only exist in four of them, the other seven exist only at a quantum level (at least i'm pretty sure that is what the smart guy said)
 

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quote="generic gamer" post="18.124739.2576971"]of course time travel is possible, we already travel through time perfectly well.
in one direction.

since our five senses are so limited to our universe's planes i don't think we'll ever be capable of breaking through to a malleable sense of time, purely because we'll never fully understand the question much less come up with an answer[/quote]

we actually have more than 5 senses as well as the touch, sight, hearing, smell and taste we hve others like thermoregulation, osmoregulation, hunger, thirst etc :)[
 

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tellmeimaninja said:
If it was possible and anything was changed in the past, then that ALREADY HAPPENED.
That's how I see it. Obviously the past has happened how it has, so obviously there must be time travellers fixing any changes to the past that rogue time travellers make.
 

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BaronXS said:
Because if it WERE, the public would eventually get their hands on it, which means millions of people would have the ability to change history to their will. Now, eventually, some idiot/crazy person/terrorist is going to go back in time to where the first humans were, and kill them, or something along those lines. That would cause a major paradox, seeing as the killer's ancestry line would never exist. So as long as the universe as we know it isn't destroyed, we can be certain that time travel will never be possible, at least for humans.

This isn't the only example to prove my point, there are an infinite amount of possible paradoxes, thanks to the butterfly effect.

Your thoughts on this matter?
Hard to prove, but I think it will be -eventually- possible to travel through time. Not for the public obviously.

I stumbled across the point you mentioned; Who said we can reach the past? The problem is, we're all going forwards in time(towards the future). It would be logical that we're only able to go to the future and not back. Or we have to invent a lightspeed-reverse on the timemachine :p
 

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BaronXS said:
Because if it WERE, the public would eventually get their hands on it, which means millions of people would have the ability to change history to their will.
"Nuclear bombs will never be possible because if they were, the public would eventually get their hands on them, which means millions of people would have the ability to destroy the world as we know it at their will."

The idiocy of the general populace does not affect the intelligence of our more brilliant scientific minds.
 

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I don't think time really even exists, I don't see it as a 'real thing', and thusly, it cannot be manipulated.

Basically, if living things didn't die we'd have no need for time, especially in an infinite universe. [If you don't believe the universe is infinite, just ignore me.] Really, the only realistic measurement for such things is distance, i.e. How far our galaxy travels through space, etc.

But that's just how I see it. ^^
 

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jonny bhoy said:
we actually have more than 5 senses as well as the touch, sight, hearing, smell and taste we hve others like thermoregulation, osmoregulation, hunger, thirst etc :)[
Hunger and thirst aren't senses, they're biological needs.

The senses consist of the classic five we all know, vestibular sense [sense of movement], kinesthetic sense [position of your own body parts, etc.], and sometimes included is thermoception [temperature, obviously], and nociception [pain]. Obviously the latter can sometimes be grouped in with touch, but are felt through different receptors than generic touch, hence why they're sometimes considered to be separate senses.

Just trying to help. ^^
 

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Well if you subscribe to the multiverse as opposed to the universe couldn't we in theory travel through "time" in a crichton-esque scenario where you simple go to the universe that is in the moment or period you're interested in? Assuming all dimensions are mirrors at different points in time and that going there doesn't outright kill you etc etc........


look how about this actually : Why bother. I mean really. Why bother.
 

crazy-j

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lol paying red alert 3 is kinda a good representation of the dangers we face by using time travel
 

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Taerdin said:
It depends on what philosophy of time travel you subscribe to... if you assume theres only one timeline then sure but what if there were parallel universes :O

I also think its lame saying things will never be possible. Theres a lot of things people from 300 AD wouldve never thought possible that we have now... its hard to say but likely we won't be alive long enough for your claims of impossibility to be proven wrong
Well, considering that Time-Travel, assuming you mean back in time will never be possible, as you'll pretty much have to invent a machine that defies existence itself... which is impossible.
 

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Shine-osophical said:
hiks89 said:
the truth is humanity will never invent a time machine in there existence otherwise they would have already come back and tell us stuff about the future and they haven't so the 5 billion years leading up to the sun going supernova and swallowing Mercury Venus and earth before finally exploding humanity will not master the fifth dimension. but humanity may finally collonise planets in other star systems and survive for millenia after >_<
First off, why are you saying that time is the fifth dimension when apart from time our reality only has three (the three dimension that make up 'space' (length, width and depth)) so wouldn't it be the fourth, and secondly i applaud your idea of more than four dimensions as there are eleven (that we know of)<-- we only exist in four of them, the other seven exist only at a quantum level (at least i'm pretty sure that is what the smart guy said)
Time and geometry are different - some people say the 4th dimension is spacetime, but you can get theoritcal 4D shapes. It's wierd, but I love it!
 

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Mimsofthedawg said:
I've always believed, and have studied that, all of our other "sub-senses" come from our basic five. Hunger can be triggered by our senses of smell and taste, but it's manly from our sense of feeling (not touch - touch is too specific) that we can feel sense our empty stomach, and thus, our hunger. Thermoception and nociception are also taken from feeling. Our bodies feel and sense the temperatures around us and the conditions within us to adjust our positions/temperatures. Even movement is actually a manipulation of feeling. When we move something just as a finger, we feel the movement as a our nerves sense the change in their positions. If we walk, our inner-ears have sacks full of super-sensitive hairs that sense the movement of the liquid within, telling us throw feeling which way's up and such.

I'm not saying YOU'RE like this, but I've always felt most people that try to come up with more than the five basic senses like to feel smart.
Uhh, I did kinda say that...
la-le-lu-li-lo said:
Obviously the latter can sometimes be grouped in with touch, but are felt through different receptors than generic touch, hence why they're sometimes considered to be separate senses.
I also [obviously] was not the one to come up with the 'extra senses', nor teach them, but I was taught them. Sooooo, you're basically saying that textbooks and scientists are just trying to sound smart.

I guess. /:

All in all, I pretty much agree with you, but of course the science of it, the technicalities of it will say we have more than five senses, even if they ought to be grouped together under parts of the main five.
 

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Actually if you travel at near the speed of light time slows for you, meaning that you could slow down and be in the future. Returning to the past though is a different story. Past travel creates paradoxes anyways.
 

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Theoretically, the time machine would only be able to travel forwards, and back to the exact point it was activated, no further. So history could not be changed.
 

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I figure that if you travel through time then you would evolve positively or negatively and change generation and be someone else of the same appearence or an ape or something and would forget your motives

or maybe you instantly blip out of existance if something acknowledges you- if something knows you exist and you are not meant to at that time then you do not belong- pow
 

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Lordmarkus said:
Well, if someone managed to travel back in time we would know it. Though in this time universe, Hitler never was killed so I guess it will never be invented.

Though, no bombs fell during the Cold war... Idea for new conspiracy theory - writning down now...
Well... maybe if hitler was killed, someone else will rise up, but gave the jews equal rights, thus making einstien and other jewish sientists not leave germeny, thus making germeny have the atomic bomb first in the war, thus winning, and turning to be what the united states are today, and some none german dude though it would be easier to learn english as the international language insted of germen, travled back in time and killed the guy who killed hitler!

And he was called steve.
 

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ok my theory on time: Every infinitely small fraction of second an entirely new universe is here, with the previous extremely small fraction of a second before it disappearing. If you can somehow recreate a perfect likeness of a previous universe or one that hasn't happened yet, then sure time travel would be possible, but I seriously doubt that would ever happen.