Snotnarok said:
Strazdas said:
iseko said:
Snotnarok said:
Yeah they have that in game, burn cards, if you're still losing and need to use a system that is outside the game, that's cheating. That's not like nitrus, that's like shooting at the other driver with a heat seeking missile then claiming skill or whatever.
try reading my post again. your talking about different things.
Yeah, I know what you said, "it's against the rules", but cheating like invulnerability, aimbot, see through walls isn't just 'going faster', it's making yourself, in your comparison a M1 Abrams tank that has the speed of a formula 1 car and perfect handling, or just teleporting to the finish line. The burncards are 'against the rules' in the light they are an OP version of a gun, or allow you to instantly recall a titan if yours gets blown up or get radar that tells you where everyone is, for 1 life, things you normally without the card cannot do and you find them so not everyone in that match has the same card. It's an advantage granted by an 1 time use item. A guy who has invincibility ...doesn't work to nitrus, it's more comparable to bending the laws of physics to win.
no, i was giving an example of a similar situation to reason why they do it, not how they do it. were talking about completely different things.
as far as invulnerability and recalling titans instantly i already gave a perfectly easy solution - make these things server dependant so the cheater cant do anything from his end to begin with. if the calcualtion of hitboxes is done on server - its simply not possible to make invincibility cheat. the same goes about teleporting ect. the only real problem is seeing through walls, since that will always be handled on the user side (unless you use OnLive or something). however there were interesting attempts to sovle this, such as dont even load enemy character position till you can "See" them (as in the server does not even tell the client where the enemy is till you reach the point where you could technicalyl see it), but this hasnt worked that well due to sometimes causing "detection lag" when one person sees the other earlier due to servers slow processing (its resource demanding process, so they made the scan for detection to happen every 500ms, and in FPS a lot can happen in that amount of time).
Look I dunno exactly what you're on about, I read your post and I was only commenting on how it's not like nitrus in a match ...that's really it, it was just being picky about words for fun. I was referring to when you said cheaters are like guys with 'nos' and use it at the last minute despite it being against the rules.
I find it more like being in a car with a forcefield from the future, something the other player has no access to but you're winning with. Burn cards are more like nitrus in the light that it's not something every player has (specific ones anyway) so that's the kind of boost you can get, like an amped gun that's 'technically' OP vs the regular version. That's all haha...
I think some wires got crossed here is all, I was just really pushing your point further is all, hope that cleared things up! D: