Titanfall Update Adds Private Matches, Kills Wall-Hack Exploit

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Ferisar said:
Rainbow_Dashtruction said:
Any multiplayer game that didn't come with built in private matches clearly has had no work put into it. Guess I'm keeping off this stinker.
Clearly.

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Good to hear. Never used private lobbies (at least not recently), but glad it's there for people. It's honestly odd to see so much want for them, but I suppose that's more of a community-driven thing.
Its just liking playing in a paintball tournament. Teams always want to have the chance to "walk the field" before they play it, so they can look for sweet spots and such. It is a strategic advantage to know the map like the back of your hand, and unless you arent contributing to your team during the game, you really couldnt explore the maps during your matches before now.
 

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Wait what?

It didn't come with private matches built in? Surely that should be standard for a multiplayer game?
There's a ton of things that should be standard in a multiplayer shooter that have been abandoned by AAA for years;/
 

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Wow, escapist members are pretty unforgiving, I'd hate to have to apologize for anything as nothing seems to make up for it.
Having private matches is unacceptable? Well only a short while after launch they put it out for free! Not good enough? ...Uhh...What WOULD make that good enough? They have to go back in time and fix it before launch?
Seeing your post count, I would hope this doesnt surprise you. ;)
 

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Well on a tangentially related topic (sorry no where to turn), and given the escapist's tendency to be really helpfull:
Anyone on earth have a clue about the 360 version no one except me seems to care about?

Every time I finish a match and it reaches the load screen to send me back to lobby it crashes my whole xbox 360.

Normally i'ld go to the EA support forums but.....hahahaha no never, why would anyone go there? (Joke aside i did and it was fruitless)

Any help from my favorite community on the web? ._. please?
Have you tried to go the Respawns forums? I know they have a very active forum for titanfall, and that might help you out a bit. It could be a start, at the very least. Also, maybe try deleting your cache, and playing it again, and see if that helps, as well.
 

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The game worked perfectly at launch it was missing game modes which they happily put out for free. The likely issue being MS wanted them to get the game out ASAP to help sell consoles. No one really knows why things weren't implemented but the fact they're fixing this mistake is a good thing.

Man I'd hate to have to apologize to you when it seems like you'd slap the apology in my face because nothing is good enough. Nothing seems to satisfy you so I really don't have anything to say to you because it doesn't seem like it matters in any respect. Be grateful when devs try and make things up or just don't buy their game, because right now it seems like you've never been satisfied with any game made by anyone and yet still support them by buying their stuff.

I don't really care who makes the game for what, I just want to play an amusing game but getting this stuff is nice, yes we should always expect more of game makers but berating them for fixing is just ignorant.
 

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That's pretty good to hear, it was one of my complaints, glad to see it finally being put in, haven't played it in a while, will have to go back to it for more Titan punching (never gets old punching a guy off your teammate)
Dude punch this ***** off me.

-***** is smashed-

-Giant robot high-five-

:D Timeless.
 

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It is a clear trend of not delivering features that used to be available (split screen, LAN games, private servers). This trend has been increasing for multiple years now. Im sure this has an effect to anyone that used such modes.
A feature present in the past doesn't necessarily have to remain ever-present. Especially if the current "thing" isn't specifically designed around that feature.

Besides, Titanfall does have a private lobby system now. It may not have launched with it but it was a promised feature that was to be included in an early update. And as we can see, Respawn has delivered.

At most, one could argue that Titanfall shipped only slightly content incomplete.

And a clear trend? I vehemently disagree. This sort of thing may be present in some of the highest profile triple-A titles nowadays, but even a cursory glance around the store of something like Steam will yield numerous contemporary titles with local play, split-screen, LAN functionality, etc.

Saying a lack of private lobbies is a prevailing trend is pure hyperbole.

Also who said everyone bitching here did not play the game? Or does anyone not liking something must not play it?
Of course not. I never said as much. Don't be ridiculous.

But when someone posts to ***** about the game, only to sum up their rant by saying something akin to "glad I didn't bother buying or playing this game", then their entire post serves no purpose beyond being a veiled jab at anyone that does play the game.

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Look. I was as disappointed as the next gamer that the game shipped without private lobbies. But I also knew, going in, that it was to be an included feature shortly after launch. I also knew that even without it Titanfall was incredibly fun and, to me, worth the price of admission. So, even with that knowledge in mind, I had no qualms about buying the game at launch.

You're welcome to disagree, if you so desire, but I do not regret my purchase.
 

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Riff Moonraker said:
Snotnarok said:
Wow, escapist members are pretty unforgiving, I'd hate to have to apologize for anything as nothing seems to make up for it.
Having private matches is unacceptable? Well only a short while after launch they put it out for free! Not good enough? ...Uhh...What WOULD make that good enough? They have to go back in time and fix it before launch?
Seeing your post count, I would hope this doesnt surprise you. ;)
Of course it doesn't but to the degree people whine about things that are so insignificant is pretty shocking. Some guy is chatting with me at the moment and selfish would be mild. :|
 

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Strazdas said:
The game worked perfectly at launch it was missing game modes which they happily put out for free. The likely issue being MS wanted them to get the game out ASAP to help sell consoles. No one really knows why things weren't implemented but the fact they're fixing this mistake is a good thing.

Man I'd hate to have to apologize to you when it seems like you'd slap the apology in my face because nothing is good enough. Nothing seems to satisfy you so I really don't have anything to say to you because it doesn't seem like it matters in any respect. Be grateful when devs try and make things up or just don't buy their game, because right now it seems like you've never been satisfied with any game made by anyone and yet still support them by buying their stuff.

I don't really care who makes the game for what, I just want to play an amusing game but getting this stuff is nice, yes we should always expect more of game makers but berating them for fixing is just ignorant.
the game worked with some functions, other functions were not present. It is true that it could be MS fault here but so far we got no proof of it and the developers said MS was hands-off about it.

Apologizing is fine as long as you learn something from it. This wasnt an apology though. Your stance however is toxic. "be glad you have something" is a bad viewpoint. this allows developers abusing its costumers. No, people complain because they want it to be better. Being contempt with uncomplete product only sends a message that they can keep doing that. Did people that bought X: rebirth also had no right to complain because hey they keep buying the game?

And we are not berating them for fixing it. If anything were saying a thanks that they finally fixed a missing part of the game, but they shouldnt act like they are going above and beyond when they are merely fixing what was missing.


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A feature present in the past doesn't necessarily have to remain ever-present. Especially if the current "thing" isn't specifically designed around that feature.

Besides, Titanfall does have a private lobby system now. It may not have launched with it but it was a promised feature that was to be included in an early update. And as we can see, Respawn has delivered.

At most, one could argue that Titanfall shipped only slightly content incomplete.

But when someone posts to ***** about the game, only to sum up their rant by saying something akin to "glad I didn't bother buying or playing this game", then their entire post serves no purpose beyond being a veiled jab at anyone that does play the game.

You're welcome to disagree, if you so desire, but I do not regret my purchase.
If that current "Thing" is not designed around features people want, then its bad design. Yes, they have fixed the problem now, and that is a good thing. what is bad is that they launched without one of cardinal functions of the game.

Or, perhaps, they are saying that they would have bought the game had it been complete? you know, the way its supposed to be done. constructive criticism and all.

your welcome to enjoy your purchase, as long as you realize not everyone is you.
 

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Strazdas said:
If that current "Thing" is not designed around features people want, then its bad design. Yes, they have fixed the problem now, and that is a good thing. what is bad is that they launched without one of cardinal functions of the game.
This is assuming everyone wants that feature. Let's not project opinions, shall we?

And since when is designing something unorthodox, or different from the expected, suddenly a bad thing? We can argue till we're both blue in the face about what "must" go into an online game today, but the exclusion of a given feature doesn't automatically equate to bad design. Especially if the current design functions well and provides a specific experience.

Or, perhaps, they are saying that they would have bought the game had it been complete? you know, the way its supposed to be done. constructive criticism and all.
Given that most of the people doing the complaining have made a point, even before the game's release, of saying they have no interest in buying it, I really doubt this little "private lobby fiasco" is primary factor in their decision.

"The way it's supposed to be done"? Let's not conflate your opinion on what constitutes a "complete" game with what others think constitutes a "complete" game.

I know just as many who didn't care that the game didn't have private lobbies as those that wanted them.

your welcome to enjoy your purchase,
Thank you. I have and will continue[footnote]Provided Respawn doesn't royally screw something up[/footnote].

as long as you realize not everyone is you.
As long as you do the same. ;)
 

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Strazdas said:
Snotnarok said:
Strazdas said:
The game worked perfectly at launch it was missing game modes which they happily put out for free. The likely issue being MS wanted them to get the game out ASAP to help sell consoles. No one really knows why things weren't implemented but the fact they're fixing this mistake is a good thing.

Man I'd hate to have to apologize to you when it seems like you'd slap the apology in my face because nothing is good enough. Nothing seems to satisfy you so I really don't have anything to say to you because it doesn't seem like it matters in any respect. Be grateful when devs try and make things up or just don't buy their game, because right now it seems like you've never been satisfied with any game made by anyone and yet still support them by buying their stuff.

I don't really care who makes the game for what, I just want to play an amusing game but getting this stuff is nice, yes we should always expect more of game makers but berating them for fixing is just ignorant.
the game worked with some functions, other functions were not present. It is true that it could be MS fault here but so far we got no proof of it and the developers said MS was hands-off about it.

Apologizing is fine as long as you learn something from it. This wasnt an apology though. Your stance however is toxic. "be glad you have something" is a bad viewpoint. this allows developers abusing its costumers. No, people complain because they want it to be better. Being contempt with uncomplete product only sends a message that they can keep doing that. Did people that bought X: rebirth also had no right to complain because hey they keep buying the game?

And we are not berating them for fixing it. If anything were saying a thanks that they finally fixed a missing part of the game, but they shouldnt act like they are going above and beyond when they are merely fixing what was missing.
You are complaining about something that was never promised in the initial release but was added to the game less than 3 months after release in a free update because people wanted it. It's not standard, it wasn't promised, they added because it was asked for. That's straight up ungrateful, you want bad ethics?

Konami releasing that Castlevania game on the PSN, the one made of sprites and backgrounds from dozens of other games in packs that added up over 70 bucks total.

Konami putting out that joke of a Metal Gear demo for 30 bucks that lasts 2 hours.

Square putting out Final Fantasty all the bravest, a game that revolves around people giving up money to to enjoy an addictive microtransaction feist of nonsense.

Microsoft trying to push always online DRM to manage how people play games and then insulting their consumer base by saying the consumers are to blame for lack of innovation and progress in technology.

Tiny Thief coming that cost people money to unlock the full game, they change their purchase policy and people who previously bought the game can now only access the free levels and have to rebuy the content they have already paid for.

Whatever nonsense went on between capcom, marvel and disney that got all the Marvel vs Capcom 3 DLC removed from the store leaving no one to be able to access it, same happening to Grand Turismo 5.

Capcom pushing on disc dlc and outright lying it's not on there when it's been proven it is.

Ubisoft putting insulting install limits into all their games, revolking that then putting always online DRM into their games customers enduring endless down time because of attacks against the company servers because of the backlash of anger made them finally cave and make Uplay, something they force onto other DRM platforms such as steam and origin.

Maxis and EA lying about Always online DRM being mandatory for their Sim City game, being proven wrong, lying about it, then finally caving after months of excuses.

Call of Duty extending their crappy rein of bullshit from 1 game a year + 60 dollars of mappacks to 2 games a year and 120 dollars in map packs to further separate the player base.
^ Even more insulting when Titanfall came out their entire CoD library went on super sale to try and spite their previous employees at Respawn in the largest childish move since capcom having a employee hospitalized from fatigue then hammering him for more excessive work upon his return.

Numerous ports to PC being insultingly bad money grabs such as Deus Ex: The Fall where the game is practically unplayable because of bugs and other issues and is not up to standards of games made even 10 years ago.

Nintendo locking games to hardware, meaning anyone who's taken advantage of a store warranty for their console will lose any of their virtual console games because they're strictly hardware locked. One guy had over 400 dollars in content and Nintendo graciously gave him ...200 dollars in credit for something that costs them nothing.

SEGA flagging youtube content makers for any kind of relation to their Shining Force series, even those who had nothing to do with it.

The numerous addictive microtransaction filled mobile games that play with peoples minds to make them spend more money.


^ That is abuse, that is things they need to be kicked in the head for, those are things that developers and publishers need to sort their shit on.

My attitude is toxic? Because they're putting out a game mode that was never listed on the box, website or anywhere else, for free, because it was asked of them by fans? They didn't lie, they didn't misrepresent their product, they didn't boast a feature that it launched without.

No I'm just realistic, nothing is free, they didn't need to do it, it wasn't promised and I'm glad they did it. Always expect more from a company but be realistic and put things into perspective. I'm grateful they did it and I hope they keep up with trying to make customers happy by putting out things they want.
 

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Now how about dedicated servers already as you promised? It's a damn Source game after all..
 

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Vigormortis said:
As long as you do the same. ;)
Point taken. I projected where i shouldnt have.

Snotnarok said:
You are complaining about something that was never promised in the initial release but was added to the game less than 3 months after release in a free update because people wanted it. It's not standard, it wasn't promised, they added because it was asked for. That's straight up ungrateful, you want bad ethics?
It not being promised only puts them at a disdvantage - they didnt plan on adding part of the game. Its like going to a retaurant and odering a meal and they only bring you the fork half hour after your meal. but hey, they didnt promise it before and they brought it in for free later so stop being ungrateful.

Konami releasing that Castlevania game on the PSN, the one made of sprites and backgrounds from dozens of other games in packs that added up over 70 bucks total.

Konami putting out that joke of a Metal Gear demo for 30 bucks that lasts 2 hours.

Square putting out Final Fantasty all the bravest, a game that revolves around people giving up money to to enjoy an addictive microtransaction feist of nonsense.
And as you can easily see these examples have been hated to death. Does not mean small problems are to be ignored. Fallacy of relative privy should not be used.
 

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Strazdas said:
Point taken. I projected where i shouldnt have.
No worries. I believe we're all guilty of this at one point or another. God knows I've done it before.

It not being promised only puts them at a disdvantage - they didnt plan on adding part of the game. Its like going to a retaurant and odering a meal and they only bring you the fork half hour after your meal. but hey, they didnt promise it before and they brought it in for free later so stop being ungrateful.
I know this wasn't in response to me, but I just wanted to point out that private lobbies were a promised inclusion prior to release.
 

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Strazdas said:
Vigormortis said:
As long as you do the same. ;)
Point taken. I projected where i shouldnt have.

Snotnarok said:
You are complaining about something that was never promised in the initial release but was added to the game less than 3 months after release in a free update because people wanted it. It's not standard, it wasn't promised, they added because it was asked for. That's straight up ungrateful, you want bad ethics?
It not being promised only puts them at a disdvantage - they didnt plan on adding part of the game. Its like going to a retaurant and odering a meal and they only bring you the fork half hour after your meal. but hey, they didnt promise it before and they brought it in for free later so stop being ungrateful.

Konami releasing that Castlevania game on the PSN, the one made of sprites and backgrounds from dozens of other games in packs that added up over 70 bucks total.

Konami putting out that joke of a Metal Gear demo for 30 bucks that lasts 2 hours.

Square putting out Final Fantasty all the bravest, a game that revolves around people giving up money to to enjoy an addictive microtransaction feist of nonsense.
And as you can easily see these examples have been hated to death. Does not mean small problems are to be ignored. Fallacy of relative privy should not be used.
Not bringing you a fork...? How is that, at all the same? One is a standard requirement to eat many foods, the game mode is not required to enjoy the game.

Oh it is for you? Well that's really on you then. Why? They never offered it, but you bought it anyway and if you didn't know they didn't offer that because it's assumed that's your fault for not reading what is included in the game.
But they did release it later for free which is only cause for celebration. You're talking about it as if it's a standard and there is no standard in what comes in multiplayer shooters, there's all sorts of game modes with all kinds of different names.

I've had actual issues with requirements- as in the game didn't bloody play.
Black Ops stated in it's system requirements my processor was easily supported, not for 3 months it wasn't, literally unplayable at any setting till a update came. THAT is lying and THAT is a problem, I paid for something that doesn't work yet clearly stated it did, 3 months to use something you paid for? Yeah that's a problem.

The examples I listed, ARE rather hard to forgive, and are reason to hate because it's apparent and some like FF: All the Bravest should be illegal. What you're complaining about doesn't make sense, at all because it's a complaint for something that was never on offer.
 

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Snotnarok said:
Not bringing you a fork...? How is that, at all the same? One is a standard requirement to eat many foods, the game mode is not required to enjoy the game.

Oh it is for you? Well that's really on you then. Why? They never offered it, but you bought it anyway and if you didn't know they didn't offer that because it's assumed that's your fault for not reading what is included in the game.
But they did release it later for free which is only cause for celebration. You're talking about it as if it's a standard and there is no standard in what comes in multiplayer shooters, there's all sorts of game modes with all kinds of different names.

I've had actual issues with requirements- as in the game didn't bloody play.
Black Ops stated in it's system requirements my processor was easily supported, not for 3 months it wasn't, literally unplayable at any setting till a update came. THAT is lying and THAT is a problem, I paid for something that doesn't work yet clearly stated it did, 3 months to use something you paid for? Yeah that's a problem.

The examples I listed, ARE rather hard to forgive, and are reason to hate because it's apparent and some like FF: All the Bravest should be illegal. What you're complaining about doesn't make sense, at all because it's a complaint for something that was never on offer.
One of the major ways of playing a game is not available. you can still play it a different way. One of the major ways of eating a dish is not available. you can still eat it with a spoon though.

so do i have to go to every restaurant and ask them if they serve it work forks then? no, the responsibility is theirs or im not coming back to that restaurant. Once again, this is not a game mode, this is a game function.
 

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Strazdas said:
Snotnarok said:
Not bringing you a fork...? How is that, at all the same? One is a standard requirement to eat many foods, the game mode is not required to enjoy the game.

Oh it is for you? Well that's really on you then. Why? They never offered it, but you bought it anyway and if you didn't know they didn't offer that because it's assumed that's your fault for not reading what is included in the game.
But they did release it later for free which is only cause for celebration. You're talking about it as if it's a standard and there is no standard in what comes in multiplayer shooters, there's all sorts of game modes with all kinds of different names.

I've had actual issues with requirements- as in the game didn't bloody play.
Black Ops stated in it's system requirements my processor was easily supported, not for 3 months it wasn't, literally unplayable at any setting till a update came. THAT is lying and THAT is a problem, I paid for something that doesn't work yet clearly stated it did, 3 months to use something you paid for? Yeah that's a problem.

The examples I listed, ARE rather hard to forgive, and are reason to hate because it's apparent and some like FF: All the Bravest should be illegal. What you're complaining about doesn't make sense, at all because it's a complaint for something that was never on offer.
One of the major ways of playing a game is not available. you can still play it a different way. One of the major ways of eating a dish is not available. you can still eat it with a spoon though.

so do i have to go to every restaurant and ask them if they serve it work forks then? no, the responsibility is theirs or im not coming back to that restaurant. Once again, this is not a game mode, this is a game function.
It doesn't matter how you define the stupid game mode!
Private matches are not part of the sale of Titanfall, it was never offered, it was not on the box it was not on the site, it is not required to play the game. You were not lied to, you can still play the game but they did however give it over and you are still crying it's a problem because 'it should have been there' . under who's rules and who there said they were including it? No one. You were misinformed and made a mistake.

There's nothing to misunderstand here, you got something that wasn't on offer and it's unacceptable to you, there's 1 person at fault here.

Either way I'm done because this was a painfully long way to say you're selfish for slamming a company for no reason, when there's actual issues go on you're upset over a game mode there were never selling.