TMNT Sequel Already Confirmed For 2016

RicoADF

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Flunk said:
Keep going to see these terrible movies and Michael Bay will keep pumping 'em out. This is the sort of thing that makes me lose faith in humanity.
So people enjoying movies that you don't like makes you lose faith in humanity, how self righteous of you. Seriously there are far more important issues that humanity needs to pay attention to than how good a piece of entertainment is. Let those that enjoy action movies go and see them, I saw Transformers 4 2 weeks ago because my friend is a Transformers fan and she wanted to see it so I tagged along and frankly while it's not my favorite movie nor one I'd pay more than $10 for on disc it wasn't the level of bad your claiming, it's an action flick a movie that you watch to see explosions, there's nothing wrong with them in small doses.

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Regarding the movie at hand, this is what's wrong with Hollywood and gaming, a movie comes out and isn't even a week old (or even before it's released) before they lock in a sequal. They don't give it a chance to see if the audience really enjoyed the movie they just want to churn out more garbage in the blind hope it'll succeed. The industry is at a quantity over quality state of mind and it'll be its downfall if it continues this way.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Zhukov said:
It would appear that Megan 'Fuck Off' Fox had a point after all.
She always did. And so did Michael Bay, who said they'd watch it anyway.
Well, yeah, but I wasn't going to say anything until the numbers came through.
 
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So is Michael Bay the new M. Night Shyamalan in the sense that everything he touches is awful and shouldn't see the light of day?
 

Canadamus Prime

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I think there's one of those rules of the internet that applies to this, something about the more you hate it the stronger it gets. Which could probably apply to Micheal Bay in general as well as this movie and it's now upcoming sequel.
 

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Zhukov said:
Well, yeah, but I wasn't going to say anything until the numbers came through.
I had that much faith in humanity. Or that little. Depends on how you look at it.
 

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Soulrender95 said:
Hmm, I wonder what the odds are that Shia Labouef will be cast as Casey Jones.
but for the true horror of this to sink in you've got to think in 10/15 years when they reboot this series of movies again, today's children will be the ones complaining that the reboot doesn't resemble this version.

I'm sure people would like to think children are smarter than that or give them the benefit of the doubt but eh, it's hard to shake off the nostalgia of youth even if it's for something terrible.
Nah, I'm sure once they're older they'll go back and rewatch it for nostalgia's sake and it will become one of those movies they watch because it's so bad when you're older that it's funny. The new TMNT cartoon, which I hear is actually pretty decent, will be the incarnation they remember fondly.
 

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I'm at the point where I may never go to see another movie ever again.

Sequalitis, rebootmania...I'm really getting sick of it all.
 

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Micah Weil said:
Let 'em have another movie.
So long as they don't try for a third movie.
God, that third TMNT movie was bad. If Bay decides to follow that path...
Maybe when they reboot the franchise in 2021, everyone involved with the current productions will have died.
 

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Adam Locking said:
I really don't understand how Michael Bay keeps getting work. People point to the opening weekend figure here and say "See!" but that doesn't mean anything. It means people wanted to see a Ninja Turtles movie. There are more talented teams, working to work for cheaper, and the opening box office would be just the same, if not higher if it had critics and word of mouth behind instead of against it.

Baffles me.
He basically guarantees financial success regardless of the movies quality. The audience has been falling for this for years now. The studios have no reason to learn from their mistakes until we learn from ours.
 

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Sniper Team 4 said:
So this is probably pretty stupid of me, but perhaps they will listen to the complaints and try to actually make the next movie better. It's possible...

More importantly, X-Men: Apocalypse!!! HIZZAH!!!
That´s what people thought whith the first Transformers, then we got one of the worst movies ever made as a sequel. But maybe, just maybe they won´t hire Liebsman to direct and the sequel will turn out to be slighly better. You probably can´t find anyone worse than that guy to direct your movie, unless you manage to hire the guy who did Behind Enemy Lines and Die Hard 5.
 

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This movie is currently sitting pretty at 19% on Rotten Tomatoes, y'all. And it's getting a sequel.

This is why TV is now where the quality viewing is.
 

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Sales say people paid for something; doesn't say that they liked it. Being a good salesperson and selling a good product are two very different things.

Still, the budget was 1/8 of a billion dollars. It'll probably make a buck. Whoopee. Let's turn TMNT into the next nostalgia cash cow! Ugh.

Atary77 said:
We have to live in a world where Megan Fox was right. Haters gonna hate but they got their money anyway.
Don't think it was about her being right or not. Call of Duty is an ATM and would sell even if it poisoned anyone who touched a copy, but what would people say if the developer told hater fans to "fuck off" because no matter how bad they think the next game will be, they will still buy it on release?
 

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Sometimes I doubt any of you actually saw the TMNT movie.

It's really... not that bad. It's dumb, silly and filled with giant turtles who know kung fu, with lots of inside jokes and references. As a big turtles fan it made me happy, but maybe i'm just not so butthurt by change.

So, yeah, I'm happy that another one is being made. Sure, it may suck, but we won't know until we see it.
 

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Eh, I didn't hate it. I went in with reasonable expectation. Sure, the writing was shot for the most part, but it wasn't the worst movie I have seen this year. I can't help but feel the bad reaction is simply too the nostalgia factor. But, I can't blame anyone for disliking any movie. I'm sure there are people out there that hate Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm not really surprised it's getting a sequel. It's ultimately a movie aimed at kids, and I don't think kids care as much as adults seem to think they do. The action was ridiculous, the turtles were funny, some of the scenes were just funny. It has horrible plot though, and I'm mostly sorry to hear the same writers are getting another shot, those guys suck. If the movie has any issues, it's the glaring plot holes in the writing. I think one of the strongest things it had going for as Michael Bay film was that it was only an hour and forty minutes long. His movies just drag, but this one didn't.

Also, I was disappointed to hear Bob's review of the movie. I wasn't expecting a great movie, and he tore it up. But many of the things he attacked were so minor it was ridiculous. He even seemed to have gotten things just plain wrong about what was happening in the film. That said, definitely not a great film, and my opinion may be colored by the fact that I only spent $3 per ticket because my girlfriend did a shit ton of surveys on her time off of school.

I'm sure this will get enough money to warrant a sequel. Probably two.
 

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ecoho said:
Bad sheep baaaad don't throw your money away at bad movies!
But, Seth Rogen... Animated movie... RATED R, MAN! :p

Now, will the sequel's plot follow "similar" footsteps as T2 or ASM2? Or quite possibly BOTH somehow?? Like:

TMNT 2 is about a special McGuffin that more than one villain, outside of Shredder and the Kraang, is after... It's time to "cowabunga" across the world as the Turtles try to stop anyone from finding and using the McGuffin for EVIL! Meanwhile, a shocking twist is revealed "close to the end of the movie" that would change April O'Neil's reporting career forever!
(Also "guest starring" Shia Labouef as [REDACTED] during the end credit sequence, rumored Schlock Monthly, so that that as you will TMNT fans!)


(Or something like that, I guess...)
 

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Aiddon said:
That is the thing; Michael Bay's name is worthless. He's not a Stephen Spielberg or a Christopher Nolan as he can't sell on his name like they can. You need only see his passion project Pain and Gain's gross to tell that as well as The Island, the last film he made before the Transformers name. His movies sell because studios hype them due to them being PAINFULLY easy to market and make trailers for.
What you talking about? Pain and Gain made back more than three times it's budget.

Putting aside the apparent misconception (the part about how Michael Bay produced the movie, he didn't direct or write it) The Island may have just barely made back more than its budget, but I think it's also the most 'dramatic' and un-Bay like film he's been responsible for, and all the other movies that Bay has directed have made back significantly more than they cost to make. The guy knows how to take a movie and turn a profit off of it.

If it's simply because he makes movies that are "painfully easy to market and make trailers for", so be it - because at the end of the day, all that really matters is that Michael Bay makes movies that make money.

Though it might be worth considering that if Michael Bay's name was worthless, why did they attach his name to it in spite of him being the producer instead of the director or writer?

Dr. Pepper Unlimited said:
So is Michael Bay the new M. Night Shyamalan in the sense that everything he touches is awful and shouldn't see the light of day?
No, because unlike M. Night Shyamalan, people actually still pay to go see Michael Bay's movies. So clearly Michael Bay is still doing something right.

Not to mention that, again, while Michael Bay's name may be attached to the movie, he didn't direct it - he simply produced it.

Baresark said:
Also, I was disappointed to hear Bob's review of the movie. I wasn't expecting a great movie, and he tore it up. But many of the things he attacked were so minor it was ridiculous. He even seemed to have gotten things just plain wrong about what was happening in the film. That said, definitely not a great film, and my opinion may be colored by the fact that I only spent $3 per ticket because my girlfriend did a shit ton of surveys on her time off of school.
Well, that kind of thing is the reason I stopped watching Bob's reviews a while back. I think it was about the time he said that people who claimed to like Transformers were "wrong".

I'm not recalling that wrong, am I? I'm pretty sure he made some kind of assessment like that back when the first of the now four Transformers movies came out.

It's kind of the same way with how I stopped paying attention to most critics reviews a while back - because it became pretty dang clear to me that most the time, what I want out of a movie and what movie critics want out of the movie are two different things. If critics happen to like the same kind of movies I do, great, but I don't see a need to not go see a movie just because critics feel the need to tear it a new one.
 

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The only Bay film I've ever seen was Armageddon and I didn't like it. So go ahead and accuse me of Bay-fanboyism (fanbayism?) all you will, the information I, a faceless person on the internet, provided state that you're wrong on that count.

It's always a lot of fun reading Escapist threads about a Michael Bay film being financially successful. What good fortune it is that here, at the Better People Enclave, all the people who are immune to marketing congregate and can discuss True Works Of Art. You know, little-known and completely un-marketed indie stuff like the Marvel films.

Here at the Escapist, you won't find "gormless idiots", "pigs" or "sheep" from among the unwashed masses who watch Bay films. We are a community of intelligent, critical and devilishly handsome folks, and I'm proud to be a part of it.

Unfortunately, the end of the world is nigh. There is no hope for the human race. A film produced by Michael Bay (or Amazing Spider-Man, another catastrophic event) did good enough at the box office to warrant a sequel, clearly the Apocalypse is coming!

People went to see TMNT, possibly because of brand recognition alone. If they enjoyed it, they'll go to see the sequel. If they didn't like it, the sequel will bomb. That's the way the cookie crumbles.

I don't like the mentality of announcing sequels just after a film comes out, or even before the opening. Nor do I like the mentality of making a schedule of films for the next 30 years. With the first, you end up with a situation where you either work on several films in the series at the same time, thus unable to respond to feedback effectively, or have little time to work on sequels, thus usually causing a drop in quality. With the second, you constrain yourself within a limited framework. This case is an example of the former practice. I don't condone it, but it's unlikely I'll go to see either TMNT or its sequel, so no skin off my nose.