To kill a God
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How to kill something that doesn't exist? (Trolling troll is trolling, disregard XD)
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Serious approach: - It would depend if he/she assumed a physical form or not. If he/she did, cut off head. If not... er... Not believing in it?
Not so serious approach: - Form an unbeatable tag team involving Kratos and Chuck Norris!
OT:
Serious approach: - It would depend if he/she assumed a physical form or not. If he/she did, cut off head. If not... er... Not believing in it?
Not so serious approach: - Form an unbeatable tag team involving Kratos and Chuck Norris!
Well, first you have to deal with the Angels, but to do that, you need to create biomechanical monsters made from Lilith that have a good chance of going berserk.
Then you need angsty teenage pilots.
Then you need angsty teenage pilots.
I've played a few games where there are both mortals and gods, and i can safely say that there are far better ways to get rid of a god than killing him. (One example was constant, unending torture and mutation until he forgot his identity and became a willing sex slave for the robotic goddess torturing him but it's highly disturbing and i don't feel like posting it)
As for mortals actually killing a god, I'd find it far more interesting that the god allowed himself to be killed or the mortal in question had something secret about him that made killing a god a viable option (like how Achilles got put in a river to become invulnerable)
As for mortals actually killing a god, I'd find it far more interesting that the god allowed himself to be killed or the mortal in question had something secret about him that made killing a god a viable option (like how Achilles got put in a river to become invulnerable)
I actually remember reading that series a few years back, something about commands being stolen and the overlord god whos name escapes me finally got tired of it, smashed the "powerful" tablets, and proceeded to knock some of the gods down a few rungs and pulled some mortals in their place.Gamblerjoe said:
edit- wait, you said campaign? i know i read that somewhere.
Deicide... now this largely depends on how you define a god.
If we're talking a conceptual god, like say... well... God, destruction is as simple as either killing or dereligioning (making up words on the fly, that's how I roll!) all His/Her/Its followers.
If we're talking some sort of cult of personality (ie, "[Pop Star] is my GOD"... I hate these people), plain ol' death'll usually work. Of course, this can sometimes backfire ("The King is Alive, Baby!"), refer back to conceptual gods in this case.
Star Gods aren't Gods per-say just really powerful aliens (this would anything ranging from a Goa'uld to a C'Tan). You'll usually need to find some sort of special weapon, such as a Anti-Tachyon Projection Lance (making up advanced technology on the fly, that's how I roll... I mean, Anti-Tachyon? I think I might just have out-stupided "Element Zero"). As above, you may need to de-God the local populace afterwards, as they'll still believe in their Gods. (Unlike above though, there's a tendency for these to actually have ways to return through the faith of their followers, so it's best to have a method of getting rid of them too)
Finally, you've got your "actual" God. Erm, this is where things get tricky. Technically speaking, you can't kill an all-knowing and all-powerful God unless It wants to. In which case, history has already been written up until the death of this God, and you can only kill It if you're destined to do so, in which case, you can't not kill It. This raises too many issues, and trying to get around being unable to kill It (or unable to not kill It, as the case may be) is going to give you a serious headache. My guess is, the only way you can kill it is to become a God yourself.
Hopefully this post has been helpful to all aspiring deicidal maniacs out there =)
If we're talking a conceptual god, like say... well... God, destruction is as simple as either killing or dereligioning (making up words on the fly, that's how I roll!) all His/Her/Its followers.
If we're talking some sort of cult of personality (ie, "[Pop Star] is my GOD"... I hate these people), plain ol' death'll usually work. Of course, this can sometimes backfire ("The King is Alive, Baby!"), refer back to conceptual gods in this case.
Star Gods aren't Gods per-say just really powerful aliens (this would anything ranging from a Goa'uld to a C'Tan). You'll usually need to find some sort of special weapon, such as a Anti-Tachyon Projection Lance (making up advanced technology on the fly, that's how I roll... I mean, Anti-Tachyon? I think I might just have out-stupided "Element Zero"). As above, you may need to de-God the local populace afterwards, as they'll still believe in their Gods. (Unlike above though, there's a tendency for these to actually have ways to return through the faith of their followers, so it's best to have a method of getting rid of them too)
Finally, you've got your "actual" God. Erm, this is where things get tricky. Technically speaking, you can't kill an all-knowing and all-powerful God unless It wants to. In which case, history has already been written up until the death of this God, and you can only kill It if you're destined to do so, in which case, you can't not kill It. This raises too many issues, and trying to get around being unable to kill It (or unable to not kill It, as the case may be) is going to give you a serious headache. My guess is, the only way you can kill it is to become a God yourself.
Hopefully this post has been helpful to all aspiring deicidal maniacs out there =)
1)What is your stance on the whole god-killing thing?
It's just like killing time.
2)How would you, as a mortal, go about doing it?
Stop believing.
It's just like killing time.
2)How would you, as a mortal, go about doing it?
Stop believing.
Killing a god generally requires a trip to their domain, which may be the hardest bit. It is then feasible, for a god can only be hurt on it's home plane. Then you would need a weapon of great power, like the Crescent Sword (See Forgotten Realms) in order to succeed.
Other theories include erasing the god's name, which would then deprive it of the worshipers that feed it's power, and slowly destroying it.
And gods can kill each other, but that gets a little bit more difficult.
Other theories include erasing the god's name, which would then deprive it of the worshipers that feed it's power, and slowly destroying it.
And gods can kill each other, but that gets a little bit more difficult.
It depends on how it's done. Some schmuck being able to kill the White God? Yea that's not going to happen. If only because aforementioned god doesn't even have a physical form to kill.
Things like God of War though pull it off just fine. In most ancient mythos, the gods are nothing more than normal humans with superpowers. They get killed all the time (within their own mythologies). It makes plenty of sense for a mortal to be able to off them. Especially if said mortal is a demigod.
Things like God of War though pull it off just fine. In most ancient mythos, the gods are nothing more than normal humans with superpowers. They get killed all the time (within their own mythologies). It makes plenty of sense for a mortal to be able to off them. Especially if said mortal is a demigod.
Realize he doesn't exist.
Ha-ha! Points to Baltar, from whom I stole this. But that man has no taste in women anywho. Caprica? We all know Boomer was the real hottie.
Ha-ha! Points to Baltar, from whom I stole this. But that man has no taste in women anywho. Caprica? We all know Boomer was the real hottie.
Deicide is my favourite type of cide, it's closely followed by Regicide. Aim for the stars, that way when the aliens come the guns are already targeted.Daverson said:
I suppose I should have defined what I meant by God but leaving it open allows people more thinking room. I was also allowing for the less seriously minded (like myself usually) a chance to have a bit of fun without derailing a thread.Woodsey said:
As a side note I find it interesting how many people took "a God" to mean the Judeo-Christo-Islamic God. The divide between those who see "a God" as a physical avatar compared with those who see it as an abstract entity is also interesting.
To be fair, you capitalised god, which can lead people to think of the most popular one right now.Scorched_Cascade said:
I just like pointing out that there have been sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaany gods before that the whole thing is a little silly.
My interpretation of god is that the entity exists on a higher plane of existence. Like how scientist thinks a black hole exists in the fourth dimension, the entity known as 'god' also lives there.
As an example, there are stories about the flatland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland) where the people there lives on a 2-D plane. They viewed the 3-D planes of ours differently, treating it with denial like how people once disprove the existence of time/space continuum.
Back to the topic, the 'god' lives on the fourth dimension, time/space continuum. With time loose for him, he may jump to anywhere in the time of the universe with infinite lifespan.
With that background established, we can answer that:
1. God is just another being that so happens to be able to jump to anywhere in time altering anything without us ever understanding it, 'miracles' or so it's called. If this is god, he may be able to be killed; but to what end? No use killing someone this powerful.
2. I would need to either jump into the 4th dimension manually (eg. wormhole), or integrate my physical body into a being of the higher plane of existence. If that doesn't kill me in the process, I will have a shot to kill god seeing we now stand on the same ground.
As an example, there are stories about the flatland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland) where the people there lives on a 2-D plane. They viewed the 3-D planes of ours differently, treating it with denial like how people once disprove the existence of time/space continuum.
Back to the topic, the 'god' lives on the fourth dimension, time/space continuum. With time loose for him, he may jump to anywhere in the time of the universe with infinite lifespan.
With that background established, we can answer that:
1. God is just another being that so happens to be able to jump to anywhere in time altering anything without us ever understanding it, 'miracles' or so it's called. If this is god, he may be able to be killed; but to what end? No use killing someone this powerful.
2. I would need to either jump into the 4th dimension manually (eg. wormhole), or integrate my physical body into a being of the higher plane of existence. If that doesn't kill me in the process, I will have a shot to kill god seeing we now stand on the same ground.
Science.....killing and disproving gods and other celestial beings for a long time.
So no problem with that if your talking about doing it literally.
So no problem with that if your talking about doing it literally.
