Town Holds Violent Videogame Buyback Program

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yundex

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Vilealbaniandwarf said:
Vilealbaniandwarf said:
This story should make you weep.

Once more the story has been skillfully shifted away from 'nutter has guns and kills bunch of kids' to 'man driven crazy by home entertainment, goes on killing spree'

So why should this make you sad?

Well its a great way for those in authority to stick the boot into the game and movie imdustry, which has some clout and avoid pissing off the NRA which has LOTS of clout and significant campaign contributions to the people who make these sorts of decisions.

So cue several months/years of politicians and media pundits scoring cheap points of games/books/films while avoiding the real issues, until this happens again. Exactly how many kids need to die before anyone enacts real change?

I should state now, I'm not against banning guns entirely, they have their uses in hunting, farming and sports, and i'm certain theres a large proportion of intelligent gun owners that keep their weapons secured properly and use them responsibly.

All I would argue for is mandatory gun liscences that involve taking regular mental health check ups and police inspections to make sure the guns are being kept stored and used properly.

Any criminal convictions or doubts over mental health then that person should lose all their guns (the number of guns should also be limited) Gun clubs should also be made a part of this as well, keeping regular records of their members and raising alerts if someone or something strikes them as odd.
Also ammo should be taxed heavily, and the amount someone can buy be limited.
What the? Any criminal convictions and people should lose their guns? Strangers should come into your house regularly to make sure you're being a good boy? Increased ammo tax which only serves to hurt recreational shooters? PRIVATE clubs forced to track their members and report anything "odd"?

This is too orwellian for me to take without hard justification. I'm surprised you didn't go full on insanity and suggest putting CCTV cameras in peoples houses like they do in Britain.
 

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The Youth Counselor said:
-Dragmire- said:
The Youth Counselor said:
VMK said:
Taronus said:
Counries with school shootings: USA
Countries with violent video games: ALL
Countries with with lax gun laws: USA

Yes,it is obviously the video games' fault.
Can't argue with that.
Also, about gun buyback:
They offer, what, 50 dollars for weapons, that clearly cost a lot more? Those guys will sell them and make profit, and if not, they are complete morons.
$50 (or credit) is usually the least amount given. Recent gun buyback programs in my area offered up to $250 for each gun.

A lot of the guns turned in are junk guns such as Hi-Points, Lorcins, Cobras, Ravens, Brycos some of which don't even have the retail value of $50. A lot of gun shops I've frequented include those guns for free after purchases or as a perk for servicemen, law enforcement, Front Sight, and NRA members, (and because it's inventory that they need to clear.)
There are gun stores that give complementary guns with the purchase of guns and/or gun accessories?

I'm not for or against it, it just seems so strange to me.
Business is business, even if it involves death.

In an equally strange but more depressing note, a local funeral home began to give us discounts because so many of our family members started dying one after the other in the past year.
Wow... that's kinda convenient but extremely morbid.
 

Mortuorum

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GunsmithKitten said:
Typical small town stupidity. Not really big enough to warrant getting too mad over.
You have to remember that Southington is another small town about a half-hour from Newtown, as is the town I live in. Almost everyone in the area knows someone affected by the shootings, or at least has a "friend of a friend" that was. When you have kids of your own, that's pretty scary stuff.

I'm not saying what they're doing makes any sense. The shootings in Newtown would not have been stopped by any of the typical security measures now being put in place at elementary schools in my area; administrators just want to be seen as doing "something." But dismissing it as stupidity is a bit too simple. You're right that it's not worth getting mad over, though.
 

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[quote/]The group is quick to note that the event isn't intended to suggest that videogames were the cause of the Sandy Hook incident. The program is being promoted by the Southington Board of Education, which sent out emails to residents to notify them of the event.[/quote]

That's nice and all, but why then are you only rewarding people for turning in violent [b/]videogames[/b]? If you think all violent media is at the root of the problem why aren't you rewarding people for turning in violent movies or books? Because the people running this are liars (in this case at least) looking for a group to blame without thinking about all the variables that could have initiated the shooting.

This is just stupid. You want to target the problem then see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uwAo8lcAC4
 

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FelixG said:
"There is ample evidence that violent video games, along with violent media of all kinds, including TV and movies portraying story after story showing a continuous stream of violence and killing, has contributed to increasing aggressiveness, fear, anxiety,"
So, why arent you buying back peoples violent movies, books, music, and comics you retarded douchebags?
Videogames are interactive entertainment, you don't just sit back and watch you commit to the actions of the characters within the game world.
That being said, I still don't agree with this, seeing as though it may heighten it in some individuals I feel that most actually release violent tendencies THROUGH video games, like myself. If not for violent media to sate our blood thirst I feel that we'd more than likely have more fights, bullying and attacks out there. All depends on if you're using the video game to inspire your own brand of violence or to release it.
 

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yundex said:
I'm surprised you didn't go full on insanity and suggest putting CCTV cameras in peoples houses like they do in Britain.
eh? There is no CCTV in my home nor in the homes of anyone i know. The UK may be tighter on these things that some other places but its not quite some sort of Orwellian nightmare world :p

OT: The problem is not games, however if this was happening where i live i would clean out my old games and use the gift certificates to buy something nice and safe, like Homefront :p. If the certs could not be used for games i would sell them to someone at 50% discount, then use the money to buy Homefront. you only get about 50p per game for PS2 era games here anyway so it could hardly be worse than that.

Cheers,

Fim
 

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I'm not so angry at this as I am curious.
What do they think they're doing? Do they think that this is going to change someone's mind on the whole videogame violence topic? The thing is, they might get paranoid parents to get rid of their kid's games but that's pretty much it.

Everyone who owns a violent videogame already has their mind made up.
 

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I get where they are coming from, and I respect the amount of publicity they are garnering towards their cause...however I feel that their focus is misplaced.

The organization of this form of protest is a total mess, for starters. Providing an option for people to sell their violent games confuses their message and lends to the idea that these violent games have some form of value. So do the donations represent people dedicated to the cause, or simply trying to make money...or do they just humor the organization? I don't even want to guess what will happen to the donations (destruction would send a bad message of tolerance).

Videogames being a cause of aggression is a topic that has recently come up due to new found evidence, and I feel that it may have merit, but so do arguments against the evidence. In the end, I still hold firm that bad guidance leads to violence (teaching developing minds to distinguish fact from fantasy, how to communicate with others, the punishment for violence...). However, a violent game could have malevolent effect on a person...especially young people with improper guidance. To that, I remind others of the ESRB rating system and why it's there (and still groan when I see parents buying it for young audiences. Seriously, protesters against violence in games need to address that issue before targeting the games themselves. They are trying to tackle a large issue without taking the small steps).

The smart thing would have been not to mention the Sandy Hook incident at all, and only address it publicly should external audiences bring the incident up first. Exploiting a tragedy to further an agenda, even peripherally, undermines an argument's ethics.

In the end, I enjoy all videogames...provided that they have a point beyond mindless violence. Then again, that is because I see value in games that employ violence to further a particular theme...others may not be able to, and that could be cause for concern.
 

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webepoop said:
Everyone who owns a violent videogame already has their mind made up.
Ah, so you don't think that a person already exposed to violent videogames is capable of changing their opinion of them?
 
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jetriot said:
How long until this thread turns into another fucking gun debate?
I saw the thread and gave it about four seconds. Wasn't off much 0.o

Well, chances are the buyback gets better rates than Gamestop. Wonder if you had a decent label maker and some spare cases you could profit offa this...
 

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I heard they we're paying $25 a game. If so here's a plan you should exploit.

1. Go to local used game shop
2. Buy every cheap $5-10 violent game you can
3. Turn in for $25 each
4. Repeat till you got ALL THE MONEY!!!!!
 

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General Twinkletoes said:
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*sigh* dumb-asses make wanna cry :(
Nice string of faceless new users there.

"Dumb-asses make wanna cry" ? Mkay. Go back to your hole.
All those avatar-less people except 1 have been around longer than you. One of them has been around since 2007, and lots of users without avatars are well known.

You seem especially angry at them for no good reason.
I was referring to the dumb-asses holding the buyback, and others who try blame video games for violence..... not as it would seem you thought i meant the people posting on this forum. A little misunderstanding, no hard feelings :)
 

yundex

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Fimbulvetr3822 said:
yundex said:
I'm surprised you didn't go full on insanity and suggest putting CCTV cameras in peoples houses like they do in Britain.
eh? There is no CCTV in my home nor in the homes of anyone i know. The UK may be tighter on these things that some other places but its not quite some sort of Orwellian nightmare world :p
http://www.globalresearch.ca/britain-cctv-surveillance-into-thousands-of-british-homes/14588

I also worded my previous post incorrectly, it should have been "like they want to do in britain".
 

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yundex said:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/britain-cctv-surveillance-into-thousands-of-british-homes/14588

I also worded my previous post incorrectly, it should have been "like they want to do in britain".
I'd say the context is pretty important here. This is just a step up from the ankle monitors on people who are on probation, not just random snooping like the article title implies.

Also, see the date of the article, yeah we have a different government now, this guy isn't in it.
 

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The whole exercise seems kind of pointless.

local gamers should do the decent thing and explain to these people that they are just wasting their time and money.

A violent computer game isnt a gun, it has a limited sphere of influence before the gamer loses interest, or buys a newer version or sequel of it. By that point the damage (as i would assume these people would view it) is already done. The game has already had its influence on the consumer and is being discarded because they are already bored of it.

Simply Pointing out the second hand selection in the local gamestop would be enough
 

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jibjab963 said:
I heard they we're paying $25 a game. If so here's a plan you should exploit.

1. Go to local used game shop
2. Buy every cheap $5-10 violent game you can
3. Turn in for $25 each
4. Repeat till you got ALL THE MONEY!!!!!
I like the way you think, we need more people like you. Someone should totally do this if they're in the area.
 

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Wont make any difference, they did this with a gun amnesty and a similiar one for knives in the UK. People just hand in their there crappy old guns for cash and can buy a brand new one. lol. Same with this, depending on prices it might be better to sell your old games here than on amazon. :)

The thing that annoys me is that the miss the point. An that point is that games are rated for age same as movies. You cant blame that a violent game made your 10 year old violent when your the parent and allowed him to play it. Its like blaming alcohal when your 10 year old comes home drunk......he shouldnt be drinking it in the first place.

All gamers sympathise with the parents of the victims. But surely someone must see the link that the murderer was surrounded by guns his whole life......now do you think its conceivable that being surrounded by weapons that kill 24/7 could have effected him as well?
 

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Katatori-kun said:
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Would you please, please take a reality check here? Neither your freedom of speech nor the freedom of speech of any violent video game maker has been jeopardized one iota. In fact, by bringing up violence as a response, you're at risk of silencing the freedom of speech of the participants of this event.

You know what this reminds me of? There's a certain strain of Christian fundamentalists who are so myopic in their view of the world that they invent fantasies of being oppressed by the rest of society, and believe in these fantasies so fervently that just as you've mentioned violence as a response, they would pre-emptively curtail the rights of non-Christians out of some delusional fear that their own rights are just moments away from being denied.

Relax. Breathe. Put the railgun down. They aren't coming for you in the night just because you play video games.
I disagree. Just because a movement is passive and non-violent to begin with does not mean it represents a danger. In this case when the bottom line is to say video games (a form of speech) are wrong, it doesn't matter so much on the specifics they happen to be using. When you let things like this go, they snowball and tend to become an increasingly larger problem. It's happened before with things like comics, music, and PnP RPGs. One day it's some concerned mothers at a sewing circle, then it's a public demonstration, then you've got TV appearances, Jack Chic pamphlets, and kids getting expelled for having a "Dragonlance" novel in his knapsack.

Also note, I didn't say violence was needed, just something that should nessicarly be off the table if things go further. I'm not exactly donning kevlar and heading out for a shooting rampage.

You joke, but understand also that there have been cases where people have come for those interested in undesirable media in the night. "Deprogramming" can be a big business, and reform/military schools can make a small fortune off of "curing" kids of their addictions to undesirable music and similar things. It's not as common as it once was, but the bottom line is that if you let this kind of thing go, you eventually wind up going to all kinds of dark places.

The thing is that being passive and non-aggressive isn't always the right desician, that just encourages movements that what they are doing is working, and it encourages them to go further if they manage to garner more attention. Sometimes, at a certain point, the best solution is to give them the bad guy they so desperatly wanted, scare the hell out of them, and then take the approach that if you leave us alone, we'll leave you alone. That won't work once a movement gets big enough, but you can stop some at a smaller level.

At the end of the day it's still a "wait and see" kind of thing right now.

Implying I'm detached from reality of delusional is a luxury you have, being someone who I assume has never been harassed over a D&D book, or a casette tape.

Truthfully the most delusional part is even implying that you might be able to get something going though. To be frank the whole reason why gamers are a target is because we aren't organized and don't rally well. One person acting couldn't get this done if it came to that, you'd need several. Knowing the limitations means I am kind of talking crap for parts of this (which I admit) but that doesn't mean the principle is at all deranged or invalid.
 

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thisbymaster said:
Hmm. I wonder what their prices are. Time to turn in those old N64 games.
Aye, pretty much my first thought. Can't find the exchange rate or the value of those sponsored gift certificates, though.

I have issues with people wanting to protect their children from violent video games. If they really cared, how comes their 12-year old minors are playing games that are rated M for, you know, MATURE?