Toyota accidents

[Ph33nix]

is it me or do most of the people who get into these accidents because there gas pedals are sticking seem rather stupid? I mean if you gas pedal sticks just throw your car into neutral and and apply the breaks or if those don't work use the e break. I don't mean to be mean (and no pun intended) but seriously this is common knowledge (or so i thought being 17 and knowing this since i was 14) so am i being to harsh? or are these people just not that bright or are they looking for attention?

 

[Fists]

who did what now? wasnt that a news story from like a month ago?

 

[Blackhol]

I'm not to sure but if they get in these accidents don't they get money. As what you said is true, my guess is suing Toyota for selling faulty cars.

 

[firedfns13]

I think throwing the car into neutral while accellerating will blow up your transmission. Especially if it is an automatic trans.

Now I'd much rather do that than to die in an accident though.

 

[SnootyEnglishman]

If your car is having a problem and it majorly affects your driving..then either get-it fixed or turn it in. Don't drive around being all oblivious and wonder "what the fuck" after you get in accident.

 

[Ph33nix]

I think throwing the car into neutral while accellerating will blow up your transmission. Especially if it is an automatic trans.

Now I'd much rather do that than to die in an accident though.

I believe it only blows up if you go from neutral to drive while revving the engine and isn't a blown trany better than a destroyed front end new air bags new windshield and all the other hundreds of things that will need to be fixed if you have a 100+ mile an hour crash and don't forget your medical expenses.

who did what now? wasnt that a news story from like a month ago?

law suites are currently going on and its back in the news.

 

[rockingnic]

Some cars don't have E-brakes and going into neutral with a stuck gas is a very bad idea, so is applying the breaks along with it. Gasing in neutral would destroy your transmission, eventually, and I believe they said don't use breaks when it happens. You mind as well buy a new car and you probably still get into an accident while trying to do this unless there's no one on the road.

 

[Private Custard]

going into neutral with a stuck gas is a very bad idea

A worse idea than steaming into a solid object at 80mph? Wow, what happens (apart from blowing your engine to bits and saving your own life)?

Yep, these people are idiots that shouldn't own a driving license. Sure it's a pretty extreme event, but to be sat in the driving seat and not know what to do when shit happens is not good.

One report I read stated that a Corolla suddenly sped up to 80mph before crashing, killing the driver (an old woman). What....the....fuck? A corolla doesn't suddenly speed up to anything!

 

[Sleekgiant]

is it me or do most of the people who get into these accidents because there gas pedals are sticking seem rather stupid? I mean if you gas pedal sticks just throw your car into neutral and and apply the breaks or if those don't work use the e break. I don't mean to be mean (and no pun intended) but seriously this is common knowledge (or so i thought being 17 and knowing this since i was 14) so am i being to harsh? or are these people just not that bright or are they looking for attention?

There is a problem with this thread. Most people aren't mechanically inclined, like me. Now on to your question; sticky gas pedal is a serious problem. Most Americans are not cool calm collective drivers, or any good for that matter. When there accelerator gets stuck they are going to panic and not do something logical like turn off the car.

 

[Private Custard]

is it me or do most of the people who get into these accidents because there gas pedals are sticking seem rather stupid? I mean if you gas pedal sticks just throw your car into neutral and and apply the breaks or if those don't work use the e break. I don't mean to be mean (and no pun intended) but seriously this is common knowledge (or so i thought being 17 and knowing this since i was 14) so am i being to harsh? or are these people just not that bright or are they looking for attention?

There is a problem with this thread. Most people aren't mechanically inclined, like me. Now on to your question; sticky gas pedal is a serious problem. Most Americans are not cool calm collective drivers, or any good for that matter. When there accelerator gets stuck they are going to panic and not do something logical like turn off the car.

Of all the things you could do in that situation, turning off the car is one of the worst things you could do. As soon as you turn the key to kill the ignition, you stand a high chance of triggering the steering lock. Not good.

Neutral is your only option. Sure the engine may blow, which means you'll have to stop using non power assisted steering (quite hard to turn when the pump is inactive) and heavily dulled brakes. But you'll stop without using a solid object as an aid.

It may be something to do with being a biker, making split second decisions that can mean the difference between arriving home on two wheels and arriving ome on two crutches (or worse), but I'd like to think the most people could make the right decision when that split second occurs.

Driver training needs to incorporate so much more than it currently does.

 

[Sleekgiant]

lots of snip

There is nothing wrong with cutting off the engine as long as its still in gear steering lock should not take effect.The reason why is that the lock cylinder will not allow full travel, which in turn does not allow the pin to slide into the steering lock. You will immediately lose power steering of course, but your better off then letting your motor redline. And sir when I say I'm mechanically inclined I'm not bluffing, being an ex-mechanic I know more about cars then well pretty much everyone

 

[firedfns13]

I think throwing the car into neutral while accellerating will blow up your transmission. Especially if it is an automatic trans.

Now I'd much rather do that than to die in an accident though.

I believe it only blows up if you go from neutral to drive while revving the engine and isn't a blown trany better than a destroyed front end new air bags new windshield and all the other hundreds of things that will need to be fixed if you have a 100+ mile an hour crash and don't forget your medical expenses.

who did what now? wasnt that a news story from like a month ago?

law suites are currently going on and its back in the news.

Ah. Well I know for a fact that it blows up if you rev in neutral and go into drive. My friend did that to his friends car. oops.

 

[Private Custard]

lots of snip

There is nothing wrong with cutting off the engine as long as its still in gear steering lock should not take effect.The reason why is that the lock cylinder will not allow full travel, which in turn does not allow the pin to slide into the steering lock. You will immediately lose power steering of course, but your better off then letting your motor redline. And sir when I say I'm mechanically inclined I'm not bluffing, being an ex-mechanic I know more about cars then well pretty much everyone

I deal with the other end of things......I'm in accident repair (Ive seen the punishment cars can take and still function). Looks like we have all bases covered!!

But I do know that my cars steering lock will trigger if the key is in the ignition but not turned to stage 1. I suppose it would be possible to kill the ignition on the move without turning the key right back, but in a panic situation, most people would turn too far.

I'd rather claim a new engine on insurance than gamble.

 

[Sleekgiant]

lots of snip

There is nothing wrong with cutting off the engine as long as its still in gear steering lock should not take effect.The reason why is that the lock cylinder will not allow full travel, which in turn does not allow the pin to slide into the steering lock. You will immediately lose power steering of course, but your better off then letting your motor redline. And sir when I say I'm mechanically inclined I'm not bluffing, being an ex-mechanic I know more about cars then well pretty much everyone

I deal with the other end of things......I'm in accident repair (Ive seen the punishment cars can take and still function). Looks like we have all bases covered!!

But I do know that my cars steering lock will trigger if the key is in the ignition but not turned to stage 1. I suppose it would be possible to kill the ignition on the move without turning the key right back, but in a panic situation, most people would turn too far.

I'd rather claim a new engine on insurance than gamble.

Well we're a minority sir, people who don't panic in car situations. Luckily I don't have to worry for my throttle uses a good old cable

 

[Poomanchu745]

is it me or do most of the people who get into these accidents because there gas pedals are sticking seem rather stupid? I mean if you gas pedal sticks just throw your car into neutral and and apply the breaks or if those don't work use the e break. I don't mean to be mean (and no pun intended) but seriously this is common knowledge (or so i thought being 17 and knowing this since i was 14) so am i being to harsh? or are these people just not that bright or are they looking for attention?

They don't really know what it is exactly I think. There was some lady testifying today and she said he popped it into neutral and she continued to accelerate. There is something wrong and putting the car in neutral did not stop the car from accelerating. So while you may think all these people are idiots I don't think they are.

 

[mikecoulter]

If I had a Toyota now, I'd purposely crash it, blame the brakes and then sue, sue and sue some more.

 

[AkJay]

I mean if you gas pedal sticks just throw your car into neutral and and apply the breaks

Some people can't think under pressure. Go down the highway at 100+ speeds, nearly crashing into every car, and see how calm you are.

or if those don't work use the e break.

That would cause your cars wheels to stop, which would then make you skid sideways and flip the car, which is what you don't want to happen.

I don't mean to be mean (and no pun intended) but seriously this is common knowledge (or so i thought being 17 and knowing this since i was 14) so am i being to harsh? or are these people just not that bright or are they looking for attention?

You're 17, despite what you think, you are young and with that comes inexperience. I'm young too, so I know full well how easy it is to look down on others and think you have all the answers, it's probably what I'm doing to you right now, but when you are under that kind of stress even the basic thought process can be erratic and insane.

 

[Private Custard]

lots of snip

There is nothing wrong with cutting off the engine as long as its still in gear steering lock should not take effect.The reason why is that the lock cylinder will not allow full travel, which in turn does not allow the pin to slide into the steering lock. You will immediately lose power steering of course, but your better off then letting your motor redline. And sir when I say I'm mechanically inclined I'm not bluffing, being an ex-mechanic I know more about cars then well pretty much everyone

I deal with the other end of things......I'm in accident repair (Ive seen the punishment cars can take and still function). Looks like we have all bases covered!!

But I do know that my cars steering lock will trigger if the key is in the ignition but not turned to stage 1. I suppose it would be possible to kill the ignition on the move without turning the key right back, but in a panic situation, most people would turn too far.

I'd rather claim a new engine on insurance than gamble.

Well we're a minority sir, people who don't panic in car situations. Luckily I don't have to worry for my throttle uses a good old cable

Make sure you keep the return spring lubed well! My bike has a return cable, so I can force the slide shut if it sticks.

And my car, well, it's Italian. It's far more likely to just stop working than work too much!

 

[Sleekgiant]

And my car, well, it's Italian. It's far more likely to just stop working than work too much!

Yeah but it'll still look good no matter what : P

 

[Private Custard]

or if those don't work use the e break.

That would cause your cars wheels to stop, which would then make you skid sideways and flip the car, which is what you don't want to happen.

You'd be surprised. I had a friend years ago that used to go through a car a week. He drove like a lunatic around the country lanes in the dead of night.

We were at a spot called Lay Hill one night. This hill drops off into complete darkness at night (about 1 in 3) and then back up at the same angle. We were doing about 110mph at the peak of the uphill section when he decided to rip up the handbrake. I've never heard a skid last that long, it was comical, I was in absolute tears on the back seat. One of the funniest things I've ever heard!

The whole time, we stayed dead straight. Sure his rear tyres were shaped like a 20p coin by the end of the night, but we never went sideways or flipped.

And my car, well, it's Italian. It's far more likely to just stop working than work too much!

Yeah but it'll still look good no matter what : P

I wouldn't say 'good'. Better than the average Eurobox hatchback though. It's not a serious Italian car, even I'm not mad enough to buy an Alfa. I use my car as a workhorse (donkey) and save the fun times for two wheels!