Butts are serious business.Lacedaemonius said:Is it just me, or are these nontroversies getting dumber and dumber?
Butts are serious business.Lacedaemonius said:Is it just me, or are these nontroversies getting dumber and dumber?
That's some god-tier shitlordin' right there.Loop Stricken said:The butt remains!
I'm more impressed Blizzard managed to troll the shit out of both sides in a years-long, ongoing, pervasive balls-out flame war over sexism and representation of women in gaming for a week solid.The_Kodu said:Damn right, I'm impressed. I mean they've managed to get it so you can see her butt and the curve of her bust at the front in a single pose which by the looks of what I'm seeing is based off a pose of a pinup girl in a magazine.
I think the more pertinent question was if you were even able to keep a straight face while typing that.I wonder how those on about how people should respect Blizard's artistic vision and not criticise the change etc are going to react or will they just kill the author and claim they know the artists vision better than the artist and Blizzard needs to change it?
To be frank, I supported them being able to take the pose out and I do like this. It really does seem more playful in nature.Loop Stricken said:BREAKING NEWS
The Buttgate pose has been changed!
Behold your new 'Over the shoulder' pose!
The butt remains!
Wrong, my friend. It was the 'how dare Blizzard get rid of the pose based on this post' that began the arguments by great calls to artistic freedom... the script was flipped to point out that artistic freedom includes the freedom to change an unfinished product (aka Beta) and to make changes as they sit fit using Feedback as a source. According to your argument, it would be the first group that couldn't criticize George Lucas. But I disagree with your false dichotomy because it misses the entire point anyways- artistic freedom is greater than the narrow argument that was really only trotted out because it could be wielded to revert a Beta change they didn't like. But while an artist has freedom to pick and choose how they respond to the feedback they receive, the critic, the reviewer, and the player/ consumer still can come in and evaluate, analyze, and critique the experience at the end. These are not mutually exclusive ideas. It was a silly argument wielded inappropriately by people that didn't want to see a particular change in Beta and some of us tried to show the silliness of it. That's all.Well as I previously said by that logic you can't object to things like the Indiana Jones Fridge scene or all the changes George Lucas kept making to Star Wars.
in this case it's criticising a change or element that doesn't make sense to change
Once, they tried to bury the butt, but the butt would not be buried. >.>Loop Stricken said:Butts are serious business.Lacedaemonius said:Is it just me, or are these nontroversies getting dumber and dumber?
Ahem. From the original "Fipps post", snipped for length and emphasized by myself,altnameJag said:Gee, it's almost like the complaint was about the previous pose not fitting her character or something and not "T&A is bad".
Still, glorious victory against the SJW boogiepeople and all that, this'll show them.
This is an argument that sexualization is reductive to a woman character.WHAT? What about this pose has anything to do with the character you're building in tracer? It's not fun, its not silly, it has nothing to do with being a fast elite killer. It just reduces tracer to another bland female sex symbol.
We aren't looking at a widowmaker pose here, this isn't a character who is in part defined by flaunting her sexuality. This pose says to the player base, oh we've got all these cool diverse characters, but at any moment we are willing to reduce them to sex symbols to help boost our investment game.
I did find the original pose a bit... unrefined, and I concur- this pose seems playful.erttheking said:To be frank, I supported them being able to take the pose out and I do like this. It really does seem more playful in nature.
So can we stop now? The pose was taken out and there's still a butt. Everyone wins.
Right, because there's no way in hell their PR department and the artists/designers spent the weekend desperately coming up with a new pose all the while telling the protesters they've been working on a new pose for months and boy howdy wait until you see it!!Dgezar said:SNIP