Trailers: Star Wars: The Old Republic: E3 2011

[StriderShinryu]

Eh.. if only it wasn't set in the SW universe. Give me a Mass Effect or Dragon Age MMO from Bioware and I'd have it pre-ordered on announce day, but I just can't get into constant lightsaber schwing-schwing and copy/paste "smugglers." It's like the commentary in that recent Unskippable episode.

Oh well, I'll probably still give it a shot simply because I like most of what Bioware does.

 

[rsvp42]

the game's interface is nearly copy-pasted from WoW

Ehh, not really. Maybe you just mean it has similarities?

Spoiler: interface comparison

 

[ImprovizoR]

Wow, EA are really trying to grab Activision's thrones this year. Battlefield 3 to take on CoD and TOR to take on WoW. I actually think they're in with a fighting chance.

I don't play MMO's but I'm tempted to try this one. And if they make it free-to-play with micro transaction system they will take over WoW.

 

[Buizel91]

the game's interface is nearly copy-pasted from WoW

Spoiler: interface

Someone just got told!

This made me Giggle, always funny to see someone get proved wrong xD

OT: Well, at least they were happy with it, now all i need is the game reviews and high ho i is set to buy!

I'm glad looks different to WoW as well, the Graphics are kinda similar but if they weren't, it wouldn't be as accessible. Also...for some bizzare reason...i want to build my Star Wars lego's =\

 

[rsvp42]

I'm glad looks different to WoW as well, the Graphics are kinda similar but if they weren't, it wouldn't be as accessible. Also...for some bizzare reason...i want to build my Star Wars lego's =\

That set of screenshots doesn't really do TOR justice. The environments especially were gorgeous when I played. Great draw distance, though the graphics could use a bit more razzle-dazzle on the upper end before launch, I think.

 

[deth2munkies]

More importantly; where is that trailer showing that cool dual-wielding Jedi and that Smuggler? Because I want that right bloody now.

This one?

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[HEADING=2]Holy fucking shit it's John Marston [http://theindiegeek.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/john-marston-red-dead-redemption.jpg] in SPACE!!![/HEADING]

That was just...just... *weeps at it's glory* For the love of the gods, someone get LucasArts, Blur Studios and BioWare working together to make the most awesome Star Wars movie to date. Good gods that trailer is better than the 3 new movies combined!

Oh eh, yeah, the game. Well I hope it'll be good enough to be my new MMO.

He looked more like the SC2 version of Jim Raynor to me...but then again, so did John Marston

 

[cieply]

Well that was a balanced recount of opinions may I say!

The Escapist, masking advertisments as media/news coverage since payed reviewes were invented!

 

[pearcinator]

Looks awesome...goodbye life, goodbye uni, goodbye money lol

 

[Clonekiller]

Either i am going insane or the hype is blinding; because i see WoW on all but the story stuff in that game.

Just dosen't do it for me.

Will TOR play like WoW? Yes. Does the graphical style resemble WoW? Yes. Are there numerous subtle differences that will make it different than WoW, as a game all it's own? Yes. TOR might be a standard MMO, but it's the subtle things (Reactive combat, full voiceover, AI party members, ranged-based tanks, etc) that make the game different, and in many ways, better.

P.S. Which is better? A time-tested successful game engine, like WoW, or an original yet failed game engine, like SWG?

 

[AlternatePFG]

Either i am going insane or the hype is blinding; because i see WoW on all but the story stuff in that game.

Just dosen't do it for me.

Will TOR play like WoW? Yes. Does the graphical style resemble WoW? Yes. Are there numerous subtle differences that will make it different than WoW, as a game all it's own? Yes. TOR might be a standard MMO, but it's the subtle things (Reactive combat, full voiceover, AI party members, ranged-based tanks, etc) that make the game different, and in many ways, better.

P.S. Which is better? A time-tested successful game engine, like WoW, or an original yet failed game engine, like SWG?

For the record, the only reason SWG failed is because LucasArts tried to turn it into WoW. It was pretty healthy before that.

Not saying the same would happen to TOR, since it's built from the ground up like that but still it's something to consider.

 

[WorldFree55]

the game's interface is nearly copy-pasted from WoW, and (for some reason) I noticed that the experience points are the also the same.

idk, maybe there is more to the dialogue trees that I'm missing and hopefully the combat differentiates more from WoW than what I think. I hope this game does better than what I'm currently expecting

I played SWTOR at Pax East 2011, and i can honestly tell you that the combat system is very fast paced that will keep your fingers at the keyboard at all times (no auto-attack which is awesome). Each class performances a lot differently then another and you actually feel like whatever role/class you take is important to any group you join or any quest you do. I can't say the same at all in WoW for classes like Hunter (worse PVP class in any MMO game ever), Warrior, pretty much any melee DPS class and classes like Paladin, Priest and Mages *cough all casters cough* being over powered as hell. I did not feel that way with any of the classes that i have played in SWTOR.

 

[jackalblue3141]

I'm excited for the game, but I'm torn. On the one hand I'm getting sick of all these these trailers and by Zeus have they made a lot of trailers. On the other hand I don't want another SWG, a buggy nightmare people only stick with because of the Star Wars spectacle.

 

[Saltyk]

Either i am going insane or the hype is blinding; because i see WoW on all but the story stuff in that game.

Just dosen't do it for me.

Will TOR play like WoW? Yes. Does the graphical style resemble WoW? Yes. Are there numerous subtle differences that will make it different than WoW, as a game all it's own? Yes. TOR might be a standard MMO, but it's the subtle things (Reactive combat, full voiceover, AI party members, ranged-based tanks, etc) that make the game different, and in many ways, better.

P.S. Which is better? A time-tested successful game engine, like WoW, or an original yet failed game engine, like SWG?

1. Nice calling in another post out of context. But for the record SWG had its own issues. But i interpreted what you just said(aside from being posted in malice) as "Do you think all MMOs should play like WoW or SWG?"
2. Define reactive combat because i can't get anyone to do that for me.
3. AI party members that function like pets/ With their own skills, talents, and abilities you control and guide?
4. So what ranged tank it still sticks to the trinity formula.
5. Full voice over still dosen't do it for me. Though it is good that we would hear something other than "Hello" or some variation there of.

1. Seems like an issue between you and him so I'll decline to comment here.
2. From what I've heard there will be no auto-attacks. Also, characters will block and dodge attacks for a much more interesting and cinematic look. No standing and beating on each other with sticks.
3. I'm still a little skeptical of the companions, but I'm slowly being convinced. The idea that I can bring one in to replace that guy in a party that we're short seems like a nice touch.
4. Almost every class can fulfill two roles in most any spec. Literally, 4 of the 8 classes can tank, heal, or dps. Just look at the Sith Inquistor. As an Assassin, they can stealth to attack enemies and be a skilled melee fighter and even act as an avoidance type tank. As a Sorcerer, you can use the force to act as a ranged dps attacking foes with Force Lightning, or as a healer. And let's not forget abilities like Death Field that allows them to attack up to 3 enemies and heal themselves. Somehow, I don't think any class is going to have problem getting shoehorned.
Also, you're not the first person I have heard make this complaint about the trinity, so I now challenge you to find a new formula. (sorry, nothing personal, you're just unlucky)
5. I read on Penny Arcade that they have been in the beta for a month. And they had soem good things to say. Namely that in games like WoW, you quest so you can get to the point where you can play the game. In TOR, questing is playing the game. It was actually very positive and alleviated some of my fears, and rather than summarize the whole thing, I'll just a link for you.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/2011/6/22/

 

[Laxman9292]

1:36 - my god, Darth Maul has stumbled into the prop collection from Tron.

Also, he stood in line 4 times? I mean I understand, it's just I think I would never be able to survive that. I stood in line for the first-ever Diablo 3 beta and I would never have thought about doing it again no matter the game quality.

Yes but you underestimate the power of the force. It was strong in that one.

 

[Nurb]

While the voices and deeper stories for an MMO are fantastic, I worry the effort put into writing, voice casting, and then creating them in 3D within the game engine itself will reduce the overall content in the game.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Very little actual ingame footage shown. Trailers of all the pre-rendered video sequences don't count, you can do stuff in those that can't be done in game.

On the plus side, I like that this will be a solo friendly game, or have they cut that part out already?

 

[Snowy Rainbow]

This game will make a big splash on release, sell a lot for a week, the hardcore Star Wars fans will lap it up, then it will nose-dive hard, turning into just another MMO no one cares about bar the core players - however few of them there are. Server merges in this game's future, yes. Many server merges.

Calling it. Just like Duke.

 

[Susurrus]

I'd much prefer them to keep doing the cinematic trailers - I look forward to a new one far more than i look forward to the actual game, which has yet to impress me.

Also, can someone just confirm - the commando and the jedi that escape in "Return" are the same two that fight in the second video, right? And the sith is the same from both the others (but before his face was burned - which I guess happened in the second?).

 

[commiedic]

Ugh, I really wish I could bring myself to try this game. Maybe if they have a demo period I will try it out. After seeing this vid and noticing that it is another hotkey MMO. That has 3 skill trees and with PvP being warzones that are copied from WoW and WAR. Also instances and raids -_- so more grinding for gear to grind for gear to grind for gear...

I just can't do it again. Sure its different setting, time, and place, but I mean really? Take this for example. You play Counter Strike and you get bored of it. A friend comes along and says here try my new game out. You play it and its Counter Strike, but with different textures and a new feature added. Like now you have vehicles. So you play it to death and you get bored of it. Another friend asks you to play his game. Sweet! It's counter strike again, but with better graphics and now you have vehicles and a jet pack. Wooo! rinse and repeat. Hopefully this will be the last game of this washed out series.

 

[Steampunk Viking]

Just throwing this out there, take from it what you will... a few people are calling this game a WoW clone, it's not a direct clone, I would say it takes what works, which is what Bioware are great at, but not a clone. Besides which, many of th modern classics do this.

I give you, as an example, God of War.

God of War took almost all it's mechanics, gameplay etc. from Devil May Cry, even right down to collecting red orbs and using them to buy abilities, and yet it's more highly praised than Devil May Cry. So who cares about this? No-one.

There's an interesting theory that everything is rehashed, that all gameplay has been borrowed from somewhere. WoW itself borrows alot from Diablo. True, this is the same company, but I would guess that even games like Ultima inspired certain aspect of Diablo itself. Unless it's a 100% rip off (which, since Bioware have stated many, many times they want to emphasise story, we're pretty sure it's not) then I don't see any problem with this.

Oh and I might also add that items, as far as I'm aware, are reflected by your level, rather than grinding for them. Just another thing to consider.