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leviathanmisha

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Ok, so I have a 4 month old beagle mix puppy. He constantly pees in the house and only wants to go outside to bark at my neighbors. My next door neighbor actually threw rat poison over my fence the other day to do as she said, "Shut the damn thing up." So, I have a funny feeling that the next step is going to be a lot worse. I need some training tips on how to get my puppy to not bark at my neighbor and to pee outside. And please don't say shock collar...we tried that on my beagle and it didn't work.
 

APPCRASH

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Poison tossing is illegal in most places with laws. Also shock collars always work, when they are on. You are just being a dog loving pansy.
 

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Rollled up newspaper works great, just whack him in the nose a few times and he will straighten out.
 

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Go to Puppy School, also, that girl must have been on her period or some5ting cause thats a bit harsh isnt it...

Puppy School is good though...
 

leviathanmisha

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APPCRASH said:
Poison tossing is illegal in most places with laws. Also shock collars always work, when they are on. You are just being a dog loving pansy.
You tell that to my neighbor, and you've never seen my beagle...she'll knock your ass over...fat as hell dog.

dragon_of_red said:
Go to Puppy School, also, that girl must have been on her period or some5ting cause thats a bit harsh isnt it...

Puppy School is good though...
My neighbor is a younger woman who just got married and bitches every time I complain about the strange noises that come from her house at night...she hates all of my pets...including my fat, adorable beagle...and we've looked into Puppy School...too expensive...
 

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Just Shout at him and call "BAD BOY! BAD BAD BAD! and hit him with something not hard or that will hurt him for real. A light slap on the head usually gets the work done. The next time he does something wrong, just raise the hand and he will remenber and associate what he did with the punishment.

Some will call cruelty to animals, but I'm not forking knives into his back and chase a cape around. It's really hard to try to make a point to an animal, to say he is doing wrong without some sort of punishment, and you can't take his playstation away or ground him.
 

leviathanmisha

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oliveira8 said:
Just Shout at him and call "BAD BOY! BAD BAD BAD! and hit him with something not hard or that will hurt him for real. A light slap on the head usually gets the work done. The next time he does something wrong, just raise the hand and he will remenber and associate what he did with the punishment.

Some will call cruelty to animals, but I'm not forking knives into his back and chase a cape around. It's really hard to try to make a point to an animal, to say he is doing wrong without some sort of punishment, and you can't take his playstation away or ground him.
Yeah, we've been working on different ways...but he is a hard head...and I still love him...*glares at offending puppy*

He tends to run away from me when I yell and thinks that when smack him for something that I am playing...and to person with newspaper idea, wanna send me one that hasn't been eaten?

And here's a picture of my puppy, so you have an idea of what I'm dealing with...and yes, he is eating a dandelion or a weed...don't ask me why.

 

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Positive and negative reinforcement. Negative in the way of a shock collar, and positive by way of raw hot dog slices (Hebrew National work well). To use the shock collar put in on him and let him wear it for 2 or 3 days, then start using it. Put it on its lowest setting and test it, you want the dog to look around for a minor annoyance (as if a mosquito was bugging him). If he doesnt look around bump it to its next setting and try again, repeat until you elicit the right response. Shock him whenever he does something wrong, and reward him when he does something right. I have used this method to train every dog I have ever owned, and it works quite well. If you want immediate housebreaking, rub his nose in it. He wont ever go in the house again.
 

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NekoiHiokans said:
oliveira8 said:
Just Shout at him and call "BAD BOY! BAD BAD BAD! and hit him with something not hard or that will hurt him for real. A light slap on the head usually gets the work done. The next time he does something wrong, just raise the hand and he will remenber and associate what he did with the punishment.

Some will call cruelty to animals, but I'm not forking knives into his back and chase a cape around. It's really hard to try to make a point to an animal, to say he is doing wrong without some sort of punishment, and you can't take his playstation away or ground him.
Yeah, we've been working on different ways...but he is a hard head...and I still love him...*glares at offending puppy*

He tends to run away from me when I yell and thinks that when smack him for something that I am playing...and to person with newspaper idea, wanna send me one that hasn't been eaten?

And here's a picture of my puppy, so you have an idea of what I'm dealing with...and yes, he is eating a dandelion or a weed...don't ask me why.

Cute little bugger.
 

leviathanmisha

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RavingPenguin said:
Positive and negative reinforcement. Negative in the way of a shock collar, and positive by way of raw hot dog slices (Hebrew National work well). To use the shock collar put in on him and let him wear it for 2 or 3 days, then start using it. Put it on its lowest setting and test it, you want the dog to look around for a minor annoyance (as if a mosquito was bugging him). If he doesnt look around bump it to its next setting and try again, repeat until you elicit the right response. Shock him whenever he does something wrong, and reward him when he does something right. I have used this method to train every dog I have ever owned, and it works quite well. If you want immediate housebreaking, rub his nose in it. He wont ever go in the house again.
I'm also think about cutting back on his food intake...he's getting fat like my other dog. And I have to dig the shock collar out...I'm just worried about using it, cause I'm going away for the weekend and leaving him with my cousin and her dad is a little too fond of shock collars.

Wildrow12 said:
NekoiHiokans said:
oliveira8 said:
Just Shout at him and call "BAD BOY! BAD BAD BAD! and hit him with something not hard or that will hurt him for real. A light slap on the head usually gets the work done. The next time he does something wrong, just raise the hand and he will remenber and associate what he did with the punishment.

Some will call cruelty to animals, but I'm not forking knives into his back and chase a cape around. It's really hard to try to make a point to an animal, to say he is doing wrong without some sort of punishment, and you can't take his playstation away or ground him.
Yeah, we've been working on different ways...but he is a hard head...and I still love him...*glares at offending puppy*

He tends to run away from me when I yell and thinks that when smack him for something that I am playing...and to person with newspaper idea, wanna send me one that hasn't been eaten?

And here's a picture of my puppy, so you have an idea of what I'm dealing with...and yes, he is eating a dandelion or a weed...don't ask me why.

Cute little bugger.
Yes, now add on a little more fat and you've got him now...I took this pic a couple weeks after we got him.
 

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Puppies need both positive and negative reinforcement.

When he pees inside, you say `bad boy` in a harsh voice and rub his nose in it.

If you catch him trying to pee inside, pick him up and carry him outside. Then he will associate peeing with being outside.

When he pees outside, give him a lot of hugs and praise. Even when walking, whenever he pees say `good boy` and hug him.

Has the puppy been spayed? Spaying can help reduce territorial peeing inside the house. Also, there are sprays you can use on the furniture to stop the dog peeing there.

Puppy barking is a problem and should be stopped. Puppies usually bark because they are bored or to reduce stress. Make sure he has toys to play with, especially something hard to chew because this will help relieve stress. When you put him outside, play with him first. First toss a ball around to get hm tired, then play some kind of tug and war game with a rope or something (not too rough though, watch the teeth). With this game, the puppy will feel that it has `won` the item, and hopefully quietly chew on it. Bones filled with marrow can also give a puppy something to chew on quietly and happily.

When you leave, hopefully the puppy will be tired, and be quite happy to chew on something, particulary something it has `won` or something tasty. Praise the puppy for sitting quietly and chewing. However, it is also likely at first that the puppy will bark to get attention. There are three ways to handle this. One is to ignore it. But the puppy could go on barking for hours before stopping. The second is too go outside, yell at the puppy and smack him with a rolled up newspaper, then leave immediatly. Repeat for as many times as neccesary. Never give your puppy any positive reinforcement when he is noisy. Also, reward a quiet and submissive state by playing with you puppy. Thirdly, tou can try to distract the puppy from barking my distracting him with his toys. Make sure the puppy has a lot to do in the garden or it will resort to barking, digging and other distructive behaviour.

Also, try making a puppy bed outside. Put a ticking clock inside the bed. The tick reminds the puppy of its mothers`s heartbeat so hopefully that puppy will sleep outside and be comforted by the ticking.

Good luck. Remember that each dog is different and you have to try may methods and see which works.
 

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NekoiHiokans said:
I'm also think about cutting back on his food intake...he's getting fat like my other dog. And I have to dig the shock collar out...I'm just worried about using it, cause I'm going away for the weekend and leaving him with my cousin and her dad is a little too fond of shock collars.
I always leave food out in my dogs bowl, that way she can regulate herself. Teaching a dog to eat only when given food is bad for its health, and it'll tend to eat thing you wont want it to.
As for the uncle problem, is there anyone else you can give it to? Someone who wont abuse a shock collar?
 

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It will take time, but you have to get him to be obedient. Try obedience training. Positive reinforcement, and make sure you teach the dog a command like "enough" or "stop".

Although by the sounds of it, I can't entirely blame the dog for barking at that neighbour.
 

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There are classes for this kinda of stuff. Granted you have to pay for them and the instructor may be a douche but it worked for my dog. If not you could always get him neutured. That always shuts them up.
 

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First off, call the cops on the ***** next door and get her arrested for that poison bullshit.

Secondly, I wonder if you have ever heard of, or watched the Dog Whisperer. My Great Dane was almost impossible to control on walks, I could rarely take her out. I watched a few episodes of Dog Whisperer and I now go on nice, controlled walks with my dog. This may sound like a lame testimonial on a terrible infomercial, but I seriously recommend the techniques of Ceaser Milan.

The best thing is to try different things, dogs can be different. I wish good luck to you, and give you one piece of advice that I would have liked to have had when Layla was a puppy, give him frequent baths and clips his nails, get him used to it as a puppy.
 

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Hmm.... well, as an owner of a beagle for several years, I'm thinking that your dog probably won't have too much trouble going to the bathroom outside. Just make sure to let him out often enough and hopefully he'll get the hang of it soon. Just make sure to be clear with him (firm "NO!"), maybe a whap in the hindquarters with a newspaper or something if he pees in the house.

As for the barking, I'm afraid you may be in some trouble. My dog, no matter how much we've yelled at him, simply does not care about the barking. He will bark. Most likely he will never stop barking. We never could get ours to, anyway. He'll bark at something hear him if he sees it and can't get to it. If he's barking while he's sniffing around (as beagles tend to do; they're all nose), chances are, he's not even listening to you. These dogs tend to get pretty focused on what they're tracking, even if it's just a squirrel up a tree or something. I would encourage you to just keep reinforcing the fact that he should NOT bark at things, although I wish you good luck, because it never worked with ours!
 

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dragon_of_red said:
Go to Puppy School, also, that girl must have been on her period or some5ting cause thats a bit harsh isnt it...

Puppy School is good though...
Yes, because I always attempt to murder puppies when I'm on my period.
And really, Its the pre menstrual part that makes women hormonal. Thus, "PMS."

Also, I don't know how to deal with your dog; we literally just reason with our dog and talk to her like a human being, and she gets the idea of, "Stay there," "Hush, girl!" and so on.
If its a real problem pup, I suggest figuring out what's causing the outstanding misbehavior of your dog before you resort to negative reinforcement.

Also, canines eat grass when their stomach is unsettled, so if you see 'em chewing on a plant, watch where you step.
 

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I grew up around dogs my whole life. I can't remember a time that we didn't have at least one dog and sometimes had three at once until I went away to college. What my dad and I did to train our dogs was to do what their mothers did when they were puppies. When a dog wants to punish her puppies, she first growls at them to warn them they are getting out of line. If that doesn't get their attention, she bites them gently on the back of the neck or on the muzzle. So what we do is tell our dogs 'no' in a very stern voice first. Sometimes, I even growl at mine and stare them down to emphasize the point. If that doesn't work, I grab them by the back of the neck and force them to the floor. If you do this when they are little puppies, it takes very little force to do so and you can do it without hurting them. The earlier you establish your dominance with a dog the easier it is to get their attention without having to use force. Another thing that works almost as well as grabbing their neck with your hand is putting a choker chain collar on them and jerking on that to emphasize your point. You usually only have to give it one jerk to get their attention and it doesn't have to be done hard enough to hurt them either. We always say 'no' first and give that a chance to work before we do anything physical. That way, the puppy learns that if he doesn't want to experience the physical punishment, he'd better listen to the word or the growl and do as he's told.

Once we establish with the puppy that we are the boss and get him to respond to 'no', we move on to more advanced commands like 'come', 'sit', 'stay', 'heel' etc. Always keep any command to one word and use the same word for that command every time. Dogs don't have a complex vocabulary so you just confuse them by changing the command or talking to them in sentences when you are trying to get them to do something.

More specific to your question, another technique that is helpful in addition to the above when it come to housebreaking is to grab the puppy by the loose skin of the neck and rub the puppy's nose in the mess they made, tell them 'no' in a very stern voice then take them outside. If they pee or poop any outside, even just a little bit, praise them and pet them. Another thing that helps is to lay out wax paper on the floor in a corner of a room, preferably a tile or concrete floor if you have any. Any time the puppy does his business on the paper, praise him and pet him. Any time he does it anywhere else in the home, punish him. If you are consistent and persistent (which is THE key to any dog training)the puppy will figure out that he'd better either do his business outside or at least on the paper.

Barking can be cured by putting a muzzle on the dog every time he barks when you don't want him to. Again, you must be consistent and persistent about this. If you get one that fits right, the muzzle won't hurt him and it's a lot easier than keeping his muzzle pinned to the floor until he stops squirming (especially if he's already bigger than a little puppy). If you do this every time, he'll get the message and stop barking at every little thing. He won't stop barking totally, but you don't want that anyway. Trust me, you want your dog to warn you if someone is breaking in the house or if the dog senses they are going to try to hurt you. Dogs can tell when a person is up to no good and when you are uncomfortable being around a certain person. Praise them when they let you know someone is at the door but punish them if they don't stop barking when you tell them 'hush'.

That's the punishment side. To really be effective we both punish and reward our dogs. Any training program that claims you can train a dog with only rewards and no punishment doesn't work. The best reward is positive attention. Dogs are social animals and love to please their owners. When your dog has done what you want him to do, pet and scratch him and say something like 'good boy' or 'good dog' in cheerful voice. Never pet, scratch or say the word 'good' to a dog when they are doing something you don't want them to do. They need to associate petting and the word 'good' with doing what you want. Treats are okay too, but use them very sparingly. You won't always have a treat handy when your dog is being good so don't rely on them to reward your dog.
 

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NekoiHiokans said:
APPCRASH said:
Poison tossing is illegal in most places with laws. Also shock collars always work, when they are on. You are just being a dog loving pansy.
You tell that to my neighbor, and you've never seen my beagle...she'll knock your ass over...fat as hell dog.

dragon_of_red said:
Go to Puppy School, also, that girl must have been on her period or some5ting cause thats a bit harsh isnt it...

Puppy School is good though...
My neighbor is a younger woman who just got married and bitches every time I complain about the strange noises that come from her house at night...she hates all of my pets...including my fat, adorable beagle...and we've looked into Puppy School...too expensive...
while i agree you should try some basic discipline if she EVER throws poison over the fence again call the police thats inexcusable. and make sure you dont move the poison she throws over as evidence. either way basic discipline. 1. rolled up newspaper/slapping on the nose always works MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHY THEY'RE BEING PUNISHED meaning make sure they know theyre being hit because they piddled inside. once you have that theyl start taking to the outside it being the only option that doesnt get them hit. and barking? bark collar if you really care to be honest its normal and you shouldnt even bother punishing a dog for something like that to me its like hitting your kid for eating alot. theyre SUPPOSED to bark alot its what dogs do just live with it -.- and if your neighbor is so awful just stand up to the ***** i mean really draw the line somewhere when shes trying to kill your pets.