Trap Manga?

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Candidus

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No, trap does not and has never meant pre-op trans. So there's nothing offensive about the term.

A trap is and has always been a very convincingly girly male who identifies as male. In Manga, they often put off identifying as male so as to cause maximum mischief.

I read a little of Boku No Geboku Ni Nare, but I must admit that the gender bender genre isn't really my thing, so I can't go as far as recommending it or anything else.
 

Shadowstar38

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There is one I read that I think is called "Pretty Face"

Basically, this guy gets into a horrible accident that disfigures him. So the doctor ends up using a picture in his pocket to recontruct his face.

The problem, the picture wasn't of him, but of the girl he has a crush on.
 

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Shadowstar38 said:
There is one I read that I think is called "Pretty Face"

Basically, this guy gets into a horrible accident that disfigures him. So the doctor ends up using a picture in his pocket to recontruct his face.

The problem, the picture wasn't of him, but of the girl he has a crush on.
Was that doctor named Oak?
 

grassgremlin

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Candidus said:
No, trap does not and has never meant pre-op trans. So there's nothing offensive about the term.

A trap is and has always been a very convincingly girly male who identifies as male. In Manga, they often put off identifying as male so as to cause maximum mischief.

I read a little of Boku No Geboku Ni Nare, but I must admit that the gender bender genre isn't really my thing, so I can't go as far as recommending it or anything else.
It's only offensive in the west, actually.
It's a bit of values dissonance.

In america, you're referring to transgendered individuals.
In japan, you're referring to cross-dressing males.

I'd say the best thing you can do is just use the actual japanese term for this sort of manga.

Otokonoko - It translate to male daughter.

"Otokonoko", also known as "Otoko no Musume", is a Japanese genre of romantic and/or erotic stories for men, focusing on Attractive Bent-Gender male Crossdressers. The name is a pun. Details It is sometimes called '"josou" ("women's clothes"), a more generic term for male crossdressers.

It's basically transvestites, and happens to have a booming community where their are transvestite mangaka.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OtokonokoGenre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otokonoko
http://kotaku.com/5804979/what-is-japans-fetish-this-week-male-daughters

It's a much safer less offensive term then "trap".

This has been a educational post for your resident lover of all thinks Otokonoko.
 

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grassgremlin said:
I appreciate your explanation. I'm not going to go to that effort, but interesting all the same.

I prefer the term trap, and the people I want to communicate with will understand the term trap and not mistake my intent when applying the word.

What the people I don't want to communicate with (anyone who might mistake my meaning) might think is neither here nor there to me.
 

Angelowl

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Now, I have read loads of gender bender manga in my years. Partially as self-therapy and otherwise due to me being attracted to cute guys and androgynity. But can someone tell me what the hell a "post operative transvestite" is supposed to mean? o_O

And in regards to the whole "trap" category, I see how it is problematic. But personally I have no problem with it within the context of japanese fandom, outside of it is another matter alltogether. With transgendered individuals being accused of turning rapists gay or being responsible for their own deaths in the case of murder.