Treyarch: Black Ops Exploiters Are "Douchebags"

[Danpascooch]

I gotta say, Treyarch really stepped up to the plate, Although I'm sure it has something to do with massive support from Activision after they trashed Infinity Ward and Treyarch became their only hope. Plus they got to learn from all of the errors of Modern Warfare 2.

Still, good job.

 

[JSDodd]

Am I the only one that thinks 'If you'd bothered to sufficiently playtest this game and ensure it was glitch free instead of releasing it before it was finished (like almost every other bloody game that's come out in the last 5 years), then glitching wouldn't be a problem'?

I don't glitch, I prefer to act fairly in a game, but I mean seriously, you bring out a product which isn't properly designed/built and then blame others for using it in ways you should have foreseen/safeguarded against? That's a joke right?

No amount of testing can be as thorough as the tens of millions of man hours that have been played since the game was released. Some stuff is bound to slip through the net, what's important is that the glitches get removed before they start ruining games.

EDIT: Ninja'd

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

What kind of bugs and glitches is he talking about he does explain what type. I have personally have no problem with people exploiting jumps to various usually inaccessible locations as long as they are not like the Chimney in Caretan or that Sniper position in the Death Star on CoD2.

 

[AnAngryMoose]

"Cue Piracy ad"

You wouldn't by gold
You wouldn't use a trainer
You wouldn't exploit glitches

Taking advantages of lacking code is being a doucebag

Brilliant timing.

OT: Treyarch are a group of people after my own heart.

 

[gl1koz3]

The only douchebag is who calls others douchebags.

The irony.

Code your programs right, goddamit.

 

[RabbiiFrystofsk]

accurate potrayal of Treyarch while watching exploit and glitch videos:



OT: I haven't seen many glitches, but with already, possibly over, 500 people that prestige'd, there has to be some.

I love you for posting that video. Also the erupting volcano that follows.

 

[MR T3D]

Good job Treyarch! I am starting to like them.

Yeah. I bought Black Ops for Nazi Zombies, but seeing the campaign and multiplayer, I'm actually starting to forgive Treyarch for World at War.

What was wrong with world at war?

o.0

"is wasn't made by those gods infinity ward"
and some people hated on the mp40 jug, but my bolt-action or semi-auto rifle could win 2/3s of the time.

seriously, now, with the features and effort treyarch is making, they are cool.
that and they made spiderman 2, which was great fun.

 

[Nifty]

God bless Treyarch.

 

[Mr.Pandah]

I've always enjoyed Treyarch's games and this game is no different. The fact that they actually want to bother fixing problems in their games is something that I can get behind.

 

[Asehujiko]

So basically, he can do absolutely nothing against them except namecalling?

 

[gigastar]

Getting rid of bugs is always a good idea. Black Ops might not be particularly good but its nice knowing that the devs at least care.

As for the Douche comment its also notable to say that anyone who plays Halo with a mic is a shreiking one. Hell its so bad it bleeds into good games like TF2.

 

[Danish rage]

Nice, im pretty sure this game as well as WAW did, will cost me 12-18 month of my life.

Singelplayer is tight.

Multiplayer is a fun random clusterfuck, the way i like it.

And Zombies is nothing less then genius.

Question?

Does people mind rapidfire pads i Zombies?

 

[V8 Ninja]

Unfortunately, I have to refer to Penny Arcade for my thoughts on this;

True, people who exploit glitches and etc. are douchebags, but they wouldn't exist if Treyarch had tested the hell out of their game. It's also hard to blame them for doing what works.

 

[smithy_2045]

Still not buying it.

 

[Popido]

Didnt something like this happen a while ago?

Oh yeah, Starcraft. Hahahaha~ ok carry on.

 

[stdragon]

To the people saying you can't possibly test as well as millions of players, well, the designers have some major advantages you're not taking into account, including the ability to do automated testing, and the ability to talk internals with the actual developers who know the weaknesses and corner cases of every algorithm in the game. They would be utterly lazy if they didn't have a version of the game that can easily be played by bots that can try every permutation of every action at every seam, corner, and clip intersection of every map.

Of course, when it's so easy to manipulate people into hating cheaters, companies can choose to be lazy.

Personally I don't care if companies rush and there are minor bugs, but at least have the decency not to whine about players who uncover the flaws. If it's not serious enough to bother testing before shipping, why is it suddenly so serious when someone wins a few online games? I think finding a bug is a bigger achievement than winning a game anyway. Or rather, it's an achievement on a more important level.

And the people cheering on Treyarch, I wonder if you feel as strongly about cheaters who exploit product activation bugs in Windows, Office, Photoshop, etc? Who exploit flaws in DRM so they can copy movies and songs and ebooks?

 

[Anton P. Nym]

Personally I don't care if companies rush and there are minor bugs, but at least have the decency not to whine about players who uncover the flaws.

They're not. They're grumbling about players who use these flaws to spoil the game for other players... Treyarch has expressly asked people to seek out and report flaws to them so that they can patch them, so it's not that they're opposed to people criticising their work.

There should be a name for people who exploit game bugs in order to ruin gameplay for other players who just want to enjoy the game... but for now, I'm happy applying the term "douchebag".

And the people cheering on Treyarch, I wonder if you feel as strongly about cheaters who exploit product activation bugs in Windows, Office, Photoshop, etc? Who exploit flaws in DRM so they can copy movies and songs and ebooks?

Yes, yes I do because I'm not that hypocritical. (And, having once made a go at making a living making games, I'm horribly biased against people making it tougher for others to do so.)

-- Steve

 

[beema]

Douchebags in a COD multiplayer game? Nah, that never happens.

 

[ryanxm]

good job treyarch this is deserving of a golf clap

 

[ryuuki]

Am I the only one that thinks 'If you'd bothered to sufficiently playtest this game and ensure it was glitch free instead of releasing it before it was finished (like almost every other bloody game that's come out in the last 5 years), then glitching wouldn't be a problem'?

I don't glitch, I prefer to act fairly in a game, but I mean seriously, you bring out a product which isn't properly designed/built and then blame others for using it in ways you should have foreseen/safeguarded against? That's a joke right?

Speaking as a QA tester I can tell you that it's impossible to find and fix ALL bugs in a game. Even with a team of 100 people working on testing not all bugs will be found. Some will only emerge during live play through emergent gameplay from gamers and some will only occur uniquely. Bugs have always been present in finished products, they always will with more and more getting through as developers go into overdrive with their franchises where getting several games out quick to a reasonable finish is more profitable than making one really well polished game. It's the sad truth and I hate it, but unless gamers stop buying the cheap franchise stuff like the new CoD games and the like then developers won't change their minds while their pockets are getting heavier.