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irishda

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I was amused by the Star Wars fake protest hashtag, but not because it's been claimed as a fake hoax from 4chan (or whatever chan). I was amused because people thought it wasn't "real", claiming it was a joke solely because the people who made it said it was a joke. It's a bit ironic though considering the place where these people come from. When I was younger and "edgier" I used to frequent 4chan and /b/ because that's what a lot of people I knew were doing, but I left after I realized it was really an 18 year old's idea of edgy and the jokes weren't worth digging through the layers of creepy porn, bullshit whining, and pedophilia stories. Now, maybe it's changed a lot since those days, but considering what I see still coming out of them, I doubt it. With that, there's the basis that the line between "troll" and "real" is incredibly blurred for the internet, and the chans in particular.

I think "troll" is a shield many in the chan communities hide behind, a way to justify shitty people acting shitty by chuckling hesitantly and going, "No, I'm just joking. I'm not serious." But if you make the same shitty joke often enough, at what point does it stop being the joke and just what you believe? Like how at some point watching Jersey Shore stop being "ironically, to make fun of it" and start being "because I like to watch it". How many threads on those sites are about how much women suck cause they won't fuck em or black people are the worst who are just whiners that wanna kill whitey or the Jews are evil and control the world? At what point does it stop being "all a joke" and start being "this is what we believe"? Considering the numerous times I see people complain about "blackwashing" characters, bitching about women in prominent media roles, or how the white man is the real victim of racism, I gotta say, I don't get what's so "troll" about protests like that.

TL;DR: Just how much of the stuff that comes out of places like 4chan really "troll", how much is shitty people acting shitty because they think of shitty things, and how do you tell the difference?
 

sageoftruth

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No idea. I suppose if they keep posting long after others have stopped responding to them, then they've probably departed from the "Just kidding" realm. Otherwise, it's possible they're doing it just for the reactions it causes. I'm not really a fan of either.
 

visiblenoise

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I just pretend that the internet world is make believe. I never see any of those weird internet types in real life anyway.
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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irishda said:
TL;DR: Just how much of the stuff that comes out of places like 4chan really "troll", how much is shitty people acting shitty because they think of shitty things, and how do you tell the difference?
Odds are (in my experience) its probably on the more than 80% (conservative guess) are shitty people hiding behind "joke" end than the opposite. Probably some moderates exist, who will most likely depart the /chan not too long after lurking there, and the rest are people who are naive enough to think the other, shitty folks are joking.

(EDIT: Don't know why I wrote half when I meant "folks"... stupid hands type faster than brain registers and post quicker than I can edit... *grumble*)
 

Mikeybb

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Damn trolls.
Hiding under our bridges, stealing our goats.
I'm surprised we don't see more protests.
It's about time someone did something about this issue.

Hang on.
I'm in the wrong thread, aren't I?
 

Twintix

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Mikeybb said:
Damn trolls.
Hiding under our bridges, stealing our goats.
I'm surprised we don't see more protests.
It's about time someone did something about this issue.

Hang on.
I'm in the wrong thread, aren't I?
Pffft, you casual.

All you have to do is get a big goat that can headbutt that ************ into the river, because apparently trolls can't swim.

OT: I was thinking of that hashtag and actually wondered if the people who made it did it to prove a point; that hashtags started because starting hashtags because a movie doesn't fulfill your exact wishes (Looking at you, PC brigade) is dumb.

Or am I giving people on the Internet too much credit?
 

RJ 17

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Twintix said:
OT: I was thinking of that hashtag and actually wondered if the people who made it did it to prove a point; that hashtags started because starting hashtags because a movie doesn't fulfill your exact wishes (Looking at you, PC brigade) is dumb.

Or am I giving people on the Internet too much credit?
Personally I think the very fact that hashtags exist is an affront to my sanity. Pretty much anyone can get any hashtag going for any reason. Hell, we've got the anti-smoking campaign trying to get people to hashtag reasons they don't smoke. Look, if you don't smoke then that's perfectly fine. In fact: good for you. But I highly doubt anyone gives a fuck as to why you don't smoke.