Trump may have solidified his 2020 win, ISIS leader Al-Baghdadi killed in US Spec Ops Raid.

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-leader-isis-targeted-u-s-raid-n1072506

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-isis-intl-hnk/index.html

This event may have handed Trump's 2020 Re-Election win on a Silver Platter. Because I believe Obama's Second Term win was mostly if not entirely because of Osama Bin Laden's death.

If this won't let him win, I like to know, I am open to any counter argument and corrections with my statement.

 

[Smithnikov_v1legacy]

Eh, I think he had it in the bag just by looking at what his opposition is, but yea, this only adds more cement.

 

[Silvanus]

Eh, I think he had it in the bag just by looking at what his opposition is, but yea, this only adds more cement.

You know the outcome of the Democratic primaries for certain, do you?

 

[Hades]

Good. He was a scumbag out to overthrow civilization. Good that he's dead.

Though I don't think Trump should be getting that much credit for this. Mostly because the decimation of ISIS had already been set in motion before he took office and BBaghdadi's death was just a matter of time. I also don't believe Trump did particularly much for this mission. With Obama I can see him contribute to some extend but with Trump I imagine everyone involved praying he wouldn't involve himself in such an important mission and screw things up. Maybe that's not entirely fair but if Trump acts so wildly inept the entire time its hard for me to see him personally do anything of note for such an important mission.

Its probably more praiseworthy that the military could get this done with Trump being such a burden on them.

 

[Smithnikov_v1legacy]

Eh, I think he had it in the bag just by looking at what his opposition is, but yea, this only adds more cement.

You know the outcome of the Democratic primaries for certain, do you?

When there's noone on the menu that strikes me as even having a chance of rallying more support or excitement than Trump does, well...

 

[Saelune]

Well, considering Hillary got more votes than Trump by a few million and all the people non-plussed to vote either way and Trump tearing through his own allies, I am super certain the difference in votes this next election will be notably larger, even if it is Biden or Yang.

I think Trump will get less votes than he did last election and whoever the Dems have will have more than Hillary got.

The problem is, will that matter?

More on topic though, I dont think this will help Trump much. Sure, his cult will praise it, but that doesnt matter, they literally praise anything he does. Whatshisface is no Osama. That guy was a house-hold name.

 

[Silvanus]

When there's noone on the menu that strikes me as even having a chance of rallying more support or excitement than Trump does, well...

I'd be interested to know where this is coming from, seeing as Trump is in a weaker position at this point in the process than almost all Presidents are before the end of the first term. He's behind in every swing state, and polls worse than almost all Democratic candidates (an occasional exception being Biden, who I'd say is one of the few candidates likelier to lose the Presidential).

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Have they posted a picture of his corpse yet?
If not, I am going to have to remain skeptical that this time we really got him.

 

[Nedoras]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-leader-isis-targeted-u-s-raid-n1072506

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-isis-intl-hnk/index.html

This event may have handed Trump's 2020 Re-Election win on a Silver Platter. Because I believe Obama's Second Term win was mostly if not entirely because of Osama Bin Laden's death.

If this won't let him win, I like to know, I am open to any counter argument and corrections with my statement.

Obama didn't win because Osama Bin Laden was killed. Literally no one gave a shit when it happened. They even tried to make a big deal out of it by selling it as another 9/11 moment. People forgot about it basically immediately. Probably because at that point, the average person fully fucking forgot Bin Laden was a person that existed. The Bush years were the distant past, and people stopped giving a damn about "bagging the terrorists". Obama won because his opponent was...well...Mitt Romney. 2012's election was just...fucking hell that was a depressing election to follow.

This isn't the Bush years anymore. We don't care about the "war on terror". His supporters will love this, but they love anything he does. His base, the Republican base in general, is also always riled up and perpetually angry about something. This isn't going to change anything. Hell, a lot of them will forget this even happened and move on to another grievance or "accomplishment" in a week when Trump does as well. The only time this will ever be brought up again is when some account named TRUMPTRAINROLLIN or whatever the fuck on Twitter needs something to boast about to some random #Resistance account that they argue with all the time.

 

[MrCalavera_v1legacy]

This event may have handed Trump's 2020 Re-Election win on a Silver Platter. Because I believe Obama's Second Term win was mostly if not entirely because of Osama Bin Laden's death.

Osama Bin Laden was the face behind 9/11 attacks, that in one day killed almost 3000 american citizens and targeted one of the most important american cites.
Al Baghdadi was an important figure of islamistic terrorist organization that killed whole lot more people in the span of several years, and brought destruction to multiple countries... in the middle east.

Both of them got what they long overdue deserved imho, but they don't resonate on the same level with american public opinion, i'd assume.
I think Al Baghdadi's death doesn't have nearly the same potential because of that, and also because americans seems to care whole lot less about "The War on Terror" right now. There are other problems occupying public conscience atm.
Trump of course will bang the drum of success, and how great victory for his administration that was, but it won't benefit him the same as Obama.

 

[ObsidianJones_v1legacy]

If there's any sense of rationality left in this world, this shouldn't mean anything.

Trump's potential criminal actions weigh more to the American people because it is just another sign in a long list of signs that this man doesn't care about the American Constitution, the US Code, or Governing himself in any semblance of an acceptable manner. I think Bill Clinton should have been ousted for his simple act of Perjury, as it was a crime.

But a good majority of Americans don't agree with me. They don't even want to look into it because they don't see how it matters to them. How there are more important things like the economy or immigration. I mean, that's what I've been hearing constantly when independents and the Cult have been interviewed.

This doesn't affect the economy. This doesn't affect immigration. So, in a sane world, it should have just as much weight as the mounting evidence that once again, Trump has shady dealings that should erode his trustworthiness.

And given that none of you have woke up today in a sane world, you better believe this will somehow have an impact.

 

[Saelune]

Oh, also:

[tweet t=https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/260549166776852480]

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Oh, also:

[tweet t=https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/260549166776852480]

You actually visit his Twitter Feed? You just gave the man traffic that still promotes his channel.

 

[Kwak]

Oh, also:

[tweet t=https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/260549166776852480]

You actually visit his Twitter Feed? You just gave the man traffic that still promotes his channel.

The president of the USA does not need his twitter to be promoted.

 

[Pseudonym]

This event may have handed Trump's 2020 Re-Election win on a Silver Platter. Because I believe Obama's Second Term win was mostly if not entirely because of Osama Bin Laden's death.

Huh? There were several reasons why Obama won that election. Chiefly, as mentioned, that Romney came off wrong. Too rich and out of touch and with little to offer the general public. I don't remember that killing Bin Laden was much of a factor and even if it was, this guy does not have the cultural weight that Bin Laden had in the US by a long shot. (his actions are worse, but 9/11 and everything associated with it, are not treated rationally)

As for the story itself. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person, though I'm still not convinced it wouldn't be better if the US just went away and let Assad rule the country. Unpleasant as that may be, the current situation of indefinite horrible war seems to be worse.

 

[warmachine]

I wanna know how much of the US electorate could name the ISIS leader before his death announcement was leaked. I doubt it's a large proportion.

 

[Saelune]

Oh, also:

[tweet t=https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/260549166776852480]

You actually visit his Twitter Feed? You just gave the man traffic that still promotes his channel.

Trump's twitter is both figuratively and literally evidence against him.

Plus

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/

Ignoring problems doesnt make them go away.

 

[ObsidianJones_v1legacy]

I wanna know how much of the US electorate could name the ISIS leader before his death announcement was leaked. I doubt it's a large proportion.

This is a fantastic point that most people will not even address.

Nor the fact that Trump's own actions have lead to dozens of ISIS Fighters being freed [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-orders-u-s-forces-withdraw-further-syria-esper-says-n1065516].

Osama Bin Laden actually had some part (how much is up for debate) for the worst act of domestic terror known to the United States. I had to be told who al-Baghdadi was, because I know I didn't know.

 

[Worgen]

I doubt this will really have any impact, if this had happened closer to the election he probably would have gotten a small bump from it, but no one knew who this guy was till we were told about it afterwards. Osama had notoriety from 9/11 and a very long manhunt, no one had heard of this dude till now.

 

[warmachine]

I wanna know how much of the US electorate, if told ISIS would just select a new one, could argue killing the leader is probably useful because there's a good chance the remaining leadership will split and would be hard pressed to take full advantage of the North Syrian chaos even if they didn't.

I say this raid does little because most think ISIS is a non-issue and don't think there's any strategic value worthy of political credit.