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SidingWithTheEnemy

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I don't get this whole dilemma of religious chastity.
What has christiany or religion in general got to do with GTA?
What I think and what I do in my spare time is my buisness, as long as I'm not hurting anyone in my leisure time everything is fine. Someone can be a good person, help others, treat everyone with the utmost respect even the very douchebags out there but still have some aggressive and violentely perverted ideas and thoughts in his head.
He is still a good person and should go to heaven if that place really exists. Because he is in control of his emotions and quite a decent guy.

If someone tells us what to think then the problems start. Noone, not religion, nor state nor TV or anything should tell us what to think because our thoughts are what makes us humans. So if I enjoy some virtual and imaginative slaughtering of my neighbour (let's say Bulletstorm or something) so that I can face him and his noisy dog with a smile the next day I'm the better person than the guy who yells at his neighbour and dog because he didn't vent some anger elsewhere.
 

jawakiller

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Wait, so Dante's Inferno wasn't in the Bible?!
:p

I love that book though, Inferno. Game was a boring god of war clone but the book, that was some grade A lit. Dante knew his shit. Especially in the original text.

Wait, what were we talking about? Oh right, christians and video games.
Did you know that Mortal Combat was the reason they invented the ESRB? True story.

But the bible makes Mortal Combat look like my little ponies so I don't know what my parents were bitching about back then. Sure I could read a book chock full of fucking awesome violence but I couldn't play a game where only one person died every couple of minutes.

Seriously, the body count in the good ol' book makes Call of Duty look like The Sims. And one dude gets assassinated, Assassin's Creed style. Read Judges, dude legit stabs a king with a hidden blade. And another time, Two guys climb a hill to check out the enemy then decide to go down there and fuck their shit. Two guys take out a whole camp of hostiles. Now that sounds like a CoD mission.

And finishers? Samuel (one of the most famous religious leaders in Israels history) would execute people like it was his job. Even after he got old.

Tellin me that God hates violence. Sure.
 

darknessknight1000

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I played God of War (My most adored game), Devil May Cry, WOW, Elder Scrolls, Final Fantasy Fallout 3, GTA ahhh well lets just say alot of games. I'm very Christian like, but come on seriously, it really pisses me off when some over hyped up Christian preaches how games are killing our children. When I read the bible I don't picture a peaceful scenario, I picture blood, tears and gore. Ever hear of fantasy not reality, games are just there so we can express ourselves, its not evil or made by the devil, its modern life. Besides 90% of christians probably play and enjoy a variety of games or technology its just a minority of old coots and fanatics who think technology is an very evil demonic thing. I have friends who are Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, and Muslim and its a way for all of us to stay connected in games such as WOW, games are about fun, Im not gonna go around and shoot or stab someone because I played a game.

Just a Master Yoda says "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to the dark side". You can't just fear something because its different, like games in this sense. Eventually you start hating something for no reason at all, I rest my case, and so waiting for SKYRIM haha.
 

Mr C

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I have to agree that believing in a deity, Christian or otherwise should not interfere with games. In fact the Bible is full of potential inspirations:

Jesus going ape-shit because of merchants selling their wares in the temple is perfect for an old school scrolling fighter (such as Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle).

A God-sim, with the goal of assisting Moses in freeing the chosen people. This is achieved sending a load of nastiness towards those good for nothing Egyptians.

For those who want a non-violent game I present Genesis: The Videogame. A game allowing the player to create the world in 7 days. You decide what to make and how to make it with bonus points for creating everything in the correct order. DLC could be available allowing you to plant all the 'evidence' necessary to make sure those not chosen will believe the world is much older than it really is and fool them into thinking they are nothing more than dirty apes.
 

Mr C

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I have to agree that believing in a deity, Christian or otherwise should not interfere with games. In fact the Bible is full of potential inspirations:

Jesus going ape-shit because of merchants selling their wares in the temple is perfect for an old school scrolling fighter (such as Streets of Rage/Bare Knuckle).

A God-sim, with the goal of assisting Moses in freeing the chosen people. This is achieved sending a load of nastiness towards those good for nothing Egyptians.

For those who want a non-violent game I present Genesis: The Videogame. A game allowing the player to create the world in 7 days. You decide what to make and how to make it with bonus points for creating everything in the correct order. DLC could be available allowing you to plant all the 'evidence' necessary to make sure those not chosen will believe the world is much older than it really is and fool them into thinking they are nothing more than dirty apes.
 

Mr C

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Sorry, don't know why there are multiple posts? Perhaps divine intervention mocking my joke game ideas :s
 

LogicNProportion

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Very well written article.

I'd like to point out while I got all the other christian references in Halo, I never made the connection with 'The Flood.' Seriously, I never realized that before and I fee like I can see forever, now that I do.

I'm slightly disappointed and impressed at the same time for there being no reference to Deus Ex, simply because it's awesome/too easy of a connection.

Overall, good job again, sir. As a Catholic (though a severely lapsed one), it's good to see others who can speak their thoughts clearly on the controversial topic, and do it well enough not to start a flame war.
 

Grey Day for Elcia

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It's difficult to ever read something seriously when it's written by a religious person. How can one expect profundity from an article written in the context of abandoning logic and the scientific method? It's a bridge I find nigh impossible to cross.
 

Doctor Proctor

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Grey Day for Elcia said:
It's difficult to ever read something seriously when it's written by a religious person. How can one expect profundity from an article written in the context of abandoning logic and the scientific method? It's a bridge I find nigh impossible to cross.
It's a good thing you're not a scientist then, since you'd have to ignore the works of Gregor Mendel, Louis Pasteur, Lord Kelvin, Max Planck, Werner Heisenberg, and many others. Oh, or did you only mean people you actually KNOW are Christian/religious/spritual, and therefore feel you can freely dismiss?

If you stopped being so judgemental for a bit then perhaps you might open your eyes to see that people who believe in a higher power come from all walks of life and have very different ideals and pursuits, and then you wouldn't be so quick to lump them all into the same narrow group. Even the most cursory application of logic would dictate that since some scientists are Christian, that not all Christians ignore the tenants of the scientific method. Of course, you could test my hypothesis by doing research into this yourself, also known as the scientific method. Try that next time before completely ignoring facts and evidence to the contrary because it suits your own beliefs better.