"Twists" that just don't make sense
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Maybe I don't know much about literature (I should due to studying English at A-level) but I never pegged Dan Brown as a bad writer, exactly. Sure there's many better ones out there, but his books are always enjoyable.TheStatutoryApe said:
I just wish he'd understand the concept of 'foreshadowing'. If you're gonna reveal an ally to be the villain, Brown should have left some clues in there. Currently it comes off as just the villain turning round suddenly and going "oh btw, i'm the person your fighting against after all." There's zero build-up to it, he might as well have turned Langdon evil!
Treefingers said:
Mal and Cobb went into limbo(with the required sedative. "Why WOULDN'T they be able to use it?" is the real question.) They did it, essentially, just for fun. Seriously, there's quite a few shots of them just sitting on the floor of a house somewhere, getting ready to "limbo" voluntarily, under no duress whatsoever. Where did you get the whole "job gone wrong" thing? Anyway, eventually Cobb becomes concerned that they will never leave because Mal has become convinced that Limbo is reality. He performs inception, they leave, she commits suicide, etc, etc. At any point after that, Mal is dead, and she is only appearing as Cobb's incredibly powerful subconscious.
The REAL plot hole of Inception(though not really a twist) is that Cobb's creations are still there in Limbo when...you know...the Asian guy shows up, even though it's not Cobb's dream AND he wasn't the architect for the dream.
The REAL plot hole of Inception(though not really a twist) is that Cobb's creations are still there in Limbo when...you know...the Asian guy shows up, even though it's not Cobb's dream AND he wasn't the architect for the dream.
It's a cop out.ayuri said:
I never really got the twist to Versus.
It had everything, a pretty girl with magic in her blood, more blood, guts, gore, zombies, other types of resurrection, a nefarious plot and a happy ending...
well, until it turned out the the good guy you were rooting for was just as bad as the other guy, destroyed the world and then helped the first bad guy do the thing he wanted to do from the start. Bwuh?
well, until it turned out the the good guy you were rooting for was just as bad as the other guy, destroyed the world and then helped the first bad guy do the thing he wanted to do from the start. Bwuh?
What makes it worse is thatajb924 said:
Angels and Demons are two completely different thing, even fallen Angels are different then demons.
They also end other skits with everyone getting arrestedstinkychops said:
one example being the Argument Clinic
It's quite funny if you haven't seen it
Ninja....Quantum Roberts said:
But yeah, that one really was a great big... WTF for me?
Was the Planet Earth all along? Were there two planets with apes and humans on them? Was that Earth in the future? Were there always apes? Seriously, what the hell was going on in that ending?
It ruined an already terrible movie. I was quite disappointed by Burton on this one.
As for me, Piranha 3D's plot twist which was.... stop glaring at me accusingly alright? I enjoyed the piranha's and the boobs in that movie and I have the right to!!! I know there isn't much of a plot at all but it was dumb fun!!! I'm mentioning this one because it's all I can think of off the top of my head!... anyway, it was knowingly stupid for the sake of being stupid and so it probably shouldn't matter that it didn't make sense but still:
The piranha that were attacking were actually the babies of much larger piranha adults? What sense does that make?
Anyway, if I can think of a better plot twist then that, I'll come back. However since someone else beat me to Planet of the Apes, this is the next best thing for now.
Quite. My College Professor was missing so it took a lot of work to make sense of it at times.Dragonpit said:
Twists, no matter how weird and unusual, can be very good providing you don't see them coming. But not if you weren't at least given the info to have had an idea that it could happen. Twists just for the sake of it really are dumb.
At the end of Black Ops,
its apparent that Victor Reznov wasn't with you all those missions past the prison escape, as he was just a figment of your imagination due to brainwashing, which makes me wonder, how the hell did all those people get shot when we were on missions, did I shoot them? Was it someone else I was projecting Reznov on? Was it magic? None of these questions were answered at the end.
I said once, and can not fully remember my own quote, that "It is to the everlasting dismay of literary connoisseurs that the unwashed masses seem to enjoy bad writing", I may very well be embellishing my choice of vocabulary. Essentially Brown writes with an addicting pace, you can tear right through one of his novels and hardly blink an eye, but that is about the only good thing he has going for him. The dialog is bad, the characters are two dimensional, and even the often interesting subjects of his novels are parred down to a gradeschool level of intellect. He makes for good mass consumption and newsstand fodder but that's about it.ReservoirAngel said:
Note that my highest level of education, on paper, is a highschool diploma and perhaps my all time favourite authors are Douglas Adams and Philip K. Dick. So I'm not exactly a pretentious lit. snob (but maybe I am, not sure).
That was a cliche? how? what other show/movie was INSANE enough to have done that before? i thought it was great, the ending. considering how many million loose ends that show had, they did a fair job. it wasn't perfect, but it was good.Truehare said:
OT: I was gonna say Modern Warfare 2, but then realized that "making sense" wasn't one of it's priorities anyway.
So.........Mass Effect 2
Ok, so you waste the obligatory "big Twist" to show that the collectors have been making making a human-reaper, instead of something that would have actually helped the plot along, (like, say a WAY FOR THE REAPERS TO COME)..... that's fine, it's more shocking or whatever.
But at least explain WHY it's there? or why it's human-shaped and not Turian or asari? or what the PLAN is? don't just say "ZOMG HUMAN-REAPER! KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!"
Not cool Bioware. Your can do better than that.
But at least explain WHY it's there? or why it's human-shaped and not Turian or asari? or what the PLAN is? don't just say "ZOMG HUMAN-REAPER! KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!"
Not cool Bioware. Your can do better than that.
Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
I made up the whole 'job gone wrong thing'. My point is that they don't explicitly state how they got into limbo in the first place, the audience has to infer what they will.
And your 'plot hole' is explained... limbo is described as a blank space filled by whatever is put there by the dreamer and can be filled by things from another member in a shared dream. So Cobb's creations are in limbo for anyone who was sharing the dream with Cobb, such as the Asian guy. Who the architect is is irrelevant.
And your 'plot hole' is explained... limbo is described as a blank space filled by whatever is put there by the dreamer and can be filled by things from another member in a shared dream. So Cobb's creations are in limbo for anyone who was sharing the dream with Cobb, such as the Asian guy. Who the architect is is irrelevant.
His books enjoyable, perhaps, but they don't match the genre. There's supposed to be intrigue and plot twists, but really, he just throws shit out at the last minute.ReservoirAngel said:
He also reads like a romance novel. And while people may find romance novels enjoyable, it doesn't make them "not trash."
That being said, I'm not here to bust anyone's balls over liking Dan Brown.
ayuri said:
the drug was only needed for a large number of people to go inot a 3rd level dream, limbo could have been created by staying to long in the machine or by them going to far into dreams. Mal was only a constrct of Cobb's subconscience as he built her from a series of his memories, where they began to appear as if they had a life of their own. the main twist i foiund was with the totem, as we never know if its in reality, because if Cobb is building from memory his subconscience could in fact be creating gravity to make him believe he has his family back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmKHGGJwO78
The twist in this story desn't make sense.
At least you'd expect the same species to fight on the same side.
The twist in this story desn't make sense.
At least you'd expect the same species to fight on the same side.
