"Twists" that just don't make sense

[Phoenix09215]

Okay, all the Inception talk has made me thnk that I should probably watch that movie again...

OT: Basically every plot twist in the SAW movies besides the one in the first SAW... after the third movie things got way to ridiculous and to be completely honest, I can't even remember what the plot twists were! If you ask me the SAW franchise is a nice example of when a small time production team think up a nice idea for a movie and then milk it for all the money they can because their original idea was successful... although I can't blame them for it!

 

[Rockchimp69]

bioshock,was a great powerful moment that made absolutly no sense when you acualy stop and think about it.

What exactly didn't make sense about it? I admit it wasn't the best twist ever but that was just because I felt a bit betrayed, (even though I knew about the twist when I started playing xD).

 

[Addicted Muffin]

inception

Spoiler

they start the movie off where if you die in the dream you wake up, half way through they are in a state where if they die in the dream they die for real (also his wife went to limbo from dying from a dream)

Spoiler

The sedative they all took so that they could go down to the otherwise unreachable third dream level causes their heavily sedated subconscious to go into limbo. It's like the sedative is so strong that if you die in the dream you essentially go into a coma in real life. Saito 'dies' and goes to limbo, and after Cobb confesses to Ariadne about Mal he goes down there to find him, risking having to confront Mal again.

Spoiler

then how did she get there?

Spoiler

She's part of [Character who Leonardo plays]'s subconscious.

The plot twists in MGS4. They didn't bother to explain a damned thing.

why did you reply to this (the most random twist of all).

To answer your question.

haha did not see spoiler

Spoiler

both her and Leonard went to limbo before the sedative and then left and then she killed herself. beat that.

I have no idea what you're saying.

Spoiler

In a flashback story in inception they both go to limbo, all of this unfolds before it was possible to die in the dream.

Spoiler

it was possible.... if you remember, they said not to copy things out of reality, because you will forget you're in a dream, and slip into limbo

 

[Ganthrinor]

Anything by M. Night Shyamalan.

Having a plot twist just to have a plot twist ISN'T A PLOT TWIST.

 

[Rockchimp69]

At the end of Black Ops,

Spoiler

its apparent that Victor Reznov wasn't with you all those missions past the prison escape, as he was just a figment of your imagination due to brainwashing, which makes me wonder, how the hell did all those people get shot when we were on missions, did I shoot them? Was it someone else I was projecting Reznov on? Was it magic? None of these questions were answered at the end.

That one was so obvious I saw it coming at the start of the boat mission.

 

[Terminate421]

Spoiler

Modern Warfare 2's betrayal

Seriously? I did my job and I get shot for it? Not to mention that we're on the same goddamn side?

 

[Truehare]

OT: I was going to mention the ending of Lost, but it wasn't really nonsensical, only unsatisfying.

Spoiler: If you want to know why...

They kind of went for that old "they are all in the afterlife" cliché, even if only to explain the supposedly "alternate" timeline. I found that explanation unsatisfying because it wasn't related to the unique properties of the island; it is something that apparently happens to everyone after they die, not only to those special people.

That was a cliche? how? what other show/movie was INSANE enough to have done that before? i thought it was great, the ending. considering how many million loose ends that show had, they did a fair job. it wasn't perfect, but it was good.

Hey, I didn't say it was bad, only unsatisfying. While I agree it fits the story perfectly, I was expecting something more related to the Island, that's all. As far as we know from information on the show,

Spoiler

that kind of "reconciling" is what happens to everyone after they die, it wasn't a unique experience for the main characters.

That's my only gripe with it.

As for the "cliche" thing, maybe I went too far, but the idea was certainly used many times before.

Spoiler

Jacob's Ladder

is the first example that comes to mind, I hope you have already watched that movie so I didn't spoil it for you; If you haven't, go watch it anyway, it's awesome. I simply expected something more original from a show that had never failed to be original before.

But I still like how

Spoiler

they played with the very first theory that came out during the first season to explain what was really happening, and the first one to be debunked...

I can't deny, they did what we were least expecting them to do.

EDIT: If anyone out there needs further reason to watch the movie I mentioned in the second spoiler, it was one of the main sources of inspiration for the first Silent Hill...

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

Hey, I didn't say it was bad, only unsatisfying. While I agree it fits the story perfectly, I was expecting something more related to the Island, that's all. As far as we know from information on the show,

Spoiler

that kind of "reconciling" is what happens to everyone after they die, it wasn't a unique experience for the main characters.

That's my only gripe with it.

As for the "cliche" thing, maybe I went too far, but the idea was certainly used many times before.

Spoiler

Jacob's Ladder

is the first example that comes to mind, I hope you have already watched that movie so I didn't spoil it for you; If you haven't, go watch it anyway, it's awesome. I simply expected something more original from a show that had never failed to be original before.

But I still like how

Spoiler

they played with the very first theory that came out during the first season to explain what was really happening, and the first one to be debunked...

I can't deny, they did what we were least expecting them to do.

EDIT: If anyone out there needs further reason to watch the movie I mentioned in the second spoiler, it was one of the main sources of inspiration for the first Silent Hill...

Yeah i see what you mean, and i can get behind that. I haven't seen Jacob's Ladder, but i will definitely look into it.
Also, i don't get which "theory" you're referring to in the last spoiler tag. It's been a LONG time since I've watched the last season, let alone the first. (this year felt like a decade to me)

 

[Sneeze]

Spoiler: Burn After Reading

The entire movie is spent with George Cloony's character being followed by who he suspects are agents for the government, turns out his wife is trying to file for divorce and hired a private investigator to see if he can find anything incriminating about Cloony.

Brad Pitt's character finds a disc containing a retired government official's bank accounts that his wife is using to take all his money in the divorce, and thinks that it is some super secret information drop by the CIA. While trying to find additional information to sell to the Russian Embassy, he is killed by George Cloony, who still believes he is being tailed by the CIA/FBI and assumes him to be a spy (this is in the middle of the movie).

The CIA is actually monitoring Brad Pitt and George Cloony, as well as the man whose bank information is unwittingly stolen by Brad Pitt. The CIA is actually trying to make sense of it all and the movie ends with them all confused as to what happened. The ironic twist is that the entire movie is spent with the main characters thinking that they are being watched by the CIA and are doing some sinister shit, only for them to not have any clue as to what the hell is going on, similarly to me trying to make sense of this (funny) movie.

Spoiler

I think the whole nonsensical thing is pretty much the entire point of the film. It's what made it so hilarious for me, anyway.

Twas an incredibly clever film I understand absolutely none of it (and the bum review on TGWTG.com only makes things worse) but it actually took the piss out of itself for being hard to follow, thats dedication.


Also, to any brits out there (or savvy Americans), anyone seen Misfits?

Spoiler

Future Simon going back in time to tell past Simon that Nathan is still alive. Don't even get me started on how that comes about...

 

[LunaSocks]

Ok, this twist is in an online short by Rooster Teeth. The Noted to Death short. At the ending, Matt shoots Joel because Matt panicked because Joel was stalking him to give him notes on the short they were editing, even though the short was already finished. Well at the end, Joel is shot by Matt out of panic, and Joel tells Matt the short should have a scene where the characters reconcile, then Joel dies. Matt says he'll re-shoot the toon, looks down at Joel's body, and the body isn't there. Instead Joel is sitting on the counte behind Joel, says the short should also have a twist ending, then twists Matt's neck until it snaps. That made ABSOLUTELY no sense whatsoever, and wasn't even funny.

 

[thevillageidiot13]

Spoiler: KOTOR

Even though it made sense and everything, Knights of the Old Republic, when you find out that you're Revan.

It felt like too much of a stretch.

Spoiler tags dont feel like much of a stretch either.

My bad. I never figured out how to do those. But looking at this quotation, now I do.

 

[Flamezdudes]

OT: I was going to mention the ending of Lost, but it wasn't really nonsensical, only unsatisfying.

Spoiler: If you want to know why...

They kind of went for that old "they are all in the afterlife" cliché, even if only to explain the supposedly "alternate" timeline. I found that explanation unsatisfying because it wasn't related to the unique properties of the island; it is something that apparently happens to everyone after they die, not only to those special people.

That was a cliche? how? what other show/movie was INSANE enough to have done that before? i thought it was great, the ending. considering how many million loose ends that show had, they did a fair job. it wasn't perfect, but it was good.

OT: I was gonna say Modern Warfare 2, but then realized that "making sense" wasn't one of it's priorities anyway.

So.........Mass Effect 2

Spoiler

Ok, so you waste the obligatory "big Twist" to show that the collectors have been making making a human-reaper, instead of something that would have actually helped the plot along, (like, say a WAY FOR THE REAPERS TO COME)..... that's fine, it's more shocking or whatever.
But at least explain WHY it's there? or why it's human-shaped and not Turian or asari? or what the PLAN is? don't just say "ZOMG HUMAN-REAPER! KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!"
Not cool Bioware. Your can do better than that.

Spoiler

BioWare did explain it, you should of investigated during the conversion at that point in the story. It's not Turian, Asari or any other because their species isn't suitable enough to become a Reaper for reasons which you can occasionally hear Harbinger say when fighting him. EDI speculates it's human shaped because Reapers like to do that on a skeletal level when they create a new Reaper.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

I know this is a thread with spoilers and I said the exact same thing today in a thread like this but some spoiler tags on some people's posts or atleast saying the name of whatever you are talking about before mentioning the spoiler. Fortunately I was able to skip over twists I didn't know about.

OT: The whole of The Game was a bit what the fuck. I don't know how popular it is nor do I know if it well received but I though it was a good movie but way too many twists.

 

[Echo136]

inception

Spoiler

they start the movie off where if you die in the dream you wake up, half way through they are in a state where if they die in the dream they die for real (also his wife went to limbo from dying from a dream)

Clearly you didnt pay attention very well and need to watch the movie again

Spoiler

Half way in when they enter the hostile dream world the reason they need to avoid dieing is because they've used such a powerful sedative that dieing wouldnt wake them up. They would just go to limbo, which is an easy way of saying they would be a drooling braindead shell of their former self for the rest of their life. Also, Cobb's wife killed herself in real life thinking it was only a dream. Mal in the dream world is just Cobb's mentally projected memories of her, and he's gotten so many issues over the years from using extraction that he cant control Mal anymore. Make better sense now?

 

[ayuri]

all I have to say is I was proven wrong, 20 times.. I succeed.
EDIT: apparently if I succeed I get 3 more replies telling me what is going on. ironic isn't it?
(3 of them there but not if i run away)

 

[Hollock]

I gotta say it
[HEADING=1]Highlander 2:The Quickening[/HEADING]

 

[Sun Flash]

OT: I was going to mention the ending of Lost, but it wasn't really nonsensical, only unsatisfying.

Spoiler: If you want to know why...

They kind of went for that old "they are all in the afterlife" cliché, even if only to explain the supposedly "alternate" timeline. I found that explanation unsatisfying because it wasn't related to the unique properties of the island; it is something that apparently happens to everyone after they die, not only to those special people.

That was a cliche? how? what other show/movie was INSANE enough to have done that before? i thought it was great, the ending. considering how many million loose ends that show had, they did a fair job. it wasn't perfect, but it was good.

The thing that made it cliche for me was that British police drama series Ashes To Ashes done exactly the same twist ending mere days before Lost finished.

Also, I agree in retrospect about the millions of loose ends, but at the time I was left somewhat deflated.

So yeah, OT: Lost

 

[Lilani]

inception

I think I can explain that one.

Spoiler

Later on in the movie, it's not that they die in real-life, it's that they end up in limbo, which is basically close enough to dying in real-life. Their minds would be lost and there would be no getting them back. Both Cobb and his wife lived in that limbo, and they killed themselves to get out of it (I believe they were able to do this because they weren't completely lost, in a sense--they still had their totems, so they still had a tie to reality). That asian guy did end up in limbo if I remember correctly, but Cobb ended up saving him. The old asian guy that Cobb comes across at the end is the asian guy's mind caught in limbo, and so Cobb rescues him.

But when they came back, Cobb's wife began to doubt reality. She began to think that she was still in the dream, and that she needed to die to get back to reality. So she killed herself and made it to where Cobb would have to kill himself too to avoid imprisonment.

Ending up in limbo occurs because of the power of the sedative they are under. The sleep was so deep that death wouldn't wake them up--it would just send their mind into the abyss. Mental death, in a way.

 

[The Seldom Seen Kid]

The countless plot twists that involve a character being dead/a figment of somebody elses' imagination in which the ectoplasmic figure can INTERACT WITH THE WORLD HE INHABITS.
Most recently:

Spoiler

Call of Duty: Black Ops

 

[LunaSocks]

inception

I think I can explain that one.

Spoiler

Later on in the movie, it's not that they die in real-life, it's that they end up in limbo, which is basically close enough to dying in real-life. Their minds would be lost and there would be no getting them back. Both Cobb and his wife lived in that limbo, and they killed themselves to get out of it (I believe they were able to do this because they weren't completely lost, in a sense--they still had their totems, so they still had a tie to reality). That asian guy did end up in limbo if I remember correctly, but Cobb ended up saving him. The old asian guy that Cobb comes across at the end is the asian guy's mind caught in limbo, and so Cobb rescues him.

But when they came back, Cobb's wife began to doubt reality. She began to think that she was still in the dream, and that she needed to die to get back to reality. So she killed herself and made it to where Cobb would have to kill himself too to avoid imprisonment.

Ending up in limbo occurs because of the power of the sedative they are under. The sleep was so deep that death wouldn't wake them up--it would just send their mind into the abyss. Mental death, in a way.

So essentially, they're getting mind F*$%ed.