"Twists" that just don't make sense

[Lilani]

So essentially, they're getting mind F*$%ed.

Exactly.

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Stuck in a dream so deep they don't even realize they're dreaming anymore. Just stuck in an endless abyss with no past and no future, completely unable to find a way to get out--or even be knkow that there is an "out."

In other news, I don't quite get the ending of Tangled.

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Flynn cuts her hair before letting her heal him. What would have been so bad about waiting a few seconds for her to heal him? I can understand the risk of her being pulled away by the bad lady, but he could have just grabbed her hair real fast and hacked it then. There was absolutely no benefit to cutting her hair at that point.

 

[Snowalker]

inception

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they start the movie off where if you die in the dream you wake up, half way through they are in a state where if they die in the dream they die for real (also his wife went to limbo from dying from a dream)

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No, no, you didn't pay close enough attention to that one. The issue wasn't that if they died in the dream they'd die for real, it was the issue that they'd be sent to limbo and that would prevent them from finishing the mission, and if they didn't finish the mission, when the plane landed, DiCaprio's character would not make it through security. So, they were avoiding the death because of limbo, but because they were scared for their life.

 

[Lilani]

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Hun, you might want to put some spoiler brackets up before you have some very angry late-watchers on your hands

 

[Snowalker]

Read Dan Brown's The Lost Symbol just recently. The ending pretty much makes the whole foregoing 600 pages unnecessary.

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Seriously? People allowed themselves to be tortured and arrested and allowed others to be murdered and nearly murdered to protect the secret that is THE FUCKING BIBLE?

Well, I thought that was the whole point and why the Freemasons were kinda being nonchalantly about the whole thing. I mean, yeah, they liked their secrets kept secret, but they didn't seem to be pulling out all the stops. It was everyone else that were freaking the fuck out.

 

[DarkRyter]

inception

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they start the movie off where if you die in the dream you wake up, half way through they are in a state where if they die in the dream they die for real (also his wife went to limbo from dying from a dream)

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That's because they were all under a sedative to make sure they would stay asleep enough to reach a third layer of dreams without waking up.

Because the sedative makes it so you can't wake up, dream death sends you into the deepest dream level, limbo. It's not "dying for real", it's just that because dream time is longer than real time, you can be stuck in limbo for a very, very long time, even if it's only like an hour in the real world. That time can make people go pretty crazy, even making them forget they're dreaming. Like what happened to Cobb's wife.

I know it's complex, but just pay attention. Miss a detail, the whole movie gets kinda wonky.

 

[Snowalker]

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Hun, you might want to put some spoiler brackets up before you have some very angry late-watchers on your hands

Thanks, but in all honesty, I just felt if they hadn't watched it, they wouldn't understand that until they had. Changed it anyhow.

 

[Enigma6667]

There was this one Michael Bay produced movie called Horsemen, it was straight to DVD and...

You know what...that sentence alone tells you how bad the twist is, and the movie in general. Just look up the twist and you'll see what I mean, just don't see the movie...at all costs.

 

[Snowalker]

There was this one Michael Bay produced movie called Horsemen, it was straight to DVD and...

You know what...that sentence alone tells you how bad the twist is, and the movie in general. Just look up the twist and you'll see what I mean, just don't see the movie...at all costs.

Really? I liked it... Oh, well, I've been told my tastes in movies is odd.

 

[DarkRyter]

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Modern Warfare 2's betrayal

Seriously? I did my job and I get shot for it? Not to mention that we're on the same goddamn side?

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He had you set up from the beginning. Technically, you're on the side of "Special Ops Team working to stop terrorists and prevent global war" and he's on the side of "Start global war with Russia to usher in a new age of American Militarism"

 

[Blue_vision]

Read Dan Brown's The Lost Symbol just recently. The ending pretty much makes the whole foregoing 600 pages unnecessary.

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Seriously? People allowed themselves to be tortured and arrested and allowed others to be murdered and nearly murdered to protect the secret that is THE FUCKING BIBLE?

It's even less than the bible, but it doesn't really matter. The point is that everyone was looking for some big grand secret, but the secret's really all in just opening your eyes. I think he even calls it a quest for enlightenment somewhere in the book.

 

[WolfThomas]

At the end of Black Ops,

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its apparent that Victor Reznov wasn't with you all those missions past the prison escape, as he was just a figment of your imagination due to brainwashing, which makes me wonder, how the hell did all those people get shot when we were on missions, did I shoot them? Was it someone else I was projecting Reznov on? Was it magic? None of these questions were answered at the end.

Spoiler: Well...

Reznov like msot NPCs doesn't kill many enemies, depending on the situation we can hypothesize that he projects Reznov on to other GIs on the ground or our character kills them himslef but imagines Reznov doing it.

 

[Blue_vision]

Clearly you didnt pay attention very well and need to watch the movie again

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Half way in when they enter the hostile dream world the reason they need to avoid dieing is because they've used such a powerful sedative that dieing wouldnt wake them up. They would just go to limbo, which is an easy way of saying they would be a drooling braindead shell of their former self for the rest of their life. Also, Cobb's wife killed herself in real life thinking it was only a dream. Mal in the dream world is just Cobb's mentally projected memories of her, and he's gotten so many issues over the years from using extraction that he cant control Mal anymore. Make better sense now?

Well not really a drooling, braindead self.
The idea was that because time passes more and more slowly further down in dream levels, you'd hit a sort of time singularity when dying in the dream, so a single second passing inside the plane would be a lifetime lived in the dream. Put this over the hours they're under for, and it would have some serious consequences to anyone, trapped in their own little world for a near eternity, without an actual other person. That's the reason Cobb goes in to save Saito, so that he can get him out of the limbo before he's so adversely affected that he's unable to call his contact to get Cobb off whatever US watchlist it is.

 

[Marter]

Planet of the Apes.

Oh not the original with Charlton Heston. No, that was genius. I'm talking about the Tim Burton remake. That...but..wha?!

If it hasn't been explained already...

It is to be said that the wormhole uses the "first one in, last one out" philosophy. the ape (can't remember his name) got in another spaceship and beat Wahlberg back to Earth, changing history so that when Wahlberg arrived, everything was messed up.

At least, that's the most sense of it I can make. It was odd, but it also made that film memorable.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

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BioWare did explain it, you should of investigated during the conversion at that point in the story. It's not Turian, Asari or any other because their species isn't suitable enough to become a Reaper for reasons which you can occasionally hear Harbinger say when fighting him. EDI speculates it's human shaped because Reapers like to do that on a skeletal level when they create a new Reaper.

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No offense, but how the fuck am i supposed to hear what Harbinger is mumbling about whilst shooting A GIANT HUMAN/ALIEN/MONSTER IN THE EYE? with a big-ass LASER!

And yes, i heard what EDI speculates about, but it was so inconclusive. The reapers are probably coming to the galaxy to maybe make new babies, in the same way by doing something with liquid human juice?

case in point: Bioware can do better than that.

 

[Flamezdudes]

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BioWare did explain it, you should of investigated during the conversion at that point in the story. It's not Turian, Asari or any other because their species isn't suitable enough to become a Reaper for reasons which you can occasionally hear Harbinger say when fighting him. EDI speculates it's human shaped because Reapers like to do that on a skeletal level when they create a new Reaper.

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No offense, but how the fuck am i supposed to hear what Harbinger is mumbling about whilst shooting A GIANT HUMAN/ALIEN/MONSTER IN THE EYE? with a big-ass LASER!

And yes, i heard what EDI speculates about, but it was so inconclusive. The reapers are probably coming to the galaxy to maybe make new babies, in the same way by doing something with liquid human juice?

case in point: Bioware can do better than that.

Here then:


Also, it's not like Shepard can ask the Reapers at this point...

 

[Superior Mind]

"Signs". The twist in this one is that everything happens for a reason or divine intervention, either way Mel Gibson's faith is restored.

BUT, (and this isn't really the twist just a part of it):

The aliens' weakness is water? Really? Considering the amount of water in the athmosphere just from walking around they'd be fucked. Presumaby they have technology for inter-planetary travel yet they arrive butt-naked with not so much as an environmental suit - which when consivering their weakness is a bit of an oversight.

Also I hate films where the twist is "It was the main character all along!" It's overused and while some films do it right, (Fight Club for example,) so many other just use it as a convenient unsatisfactory ending. Aliens is another biggie. Fuck "Knowing". Instead of climaxing in an interesting endling with what was a fairly interesting build-up we get Aliens. That's it, all explained. Not to mention that these Aliens were weirdos, gathering up kids and putting them in some fucked-up abandoned Teletubbies set... fuck "Knowing". Fuck "The Forgotton" too.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

Here then:


Also, it's not like Shepard can ask the Reapers at this point...

The Asari, Salarian, Krogan answers made sense, so i thought: "Ok why not Turian? they're tough." to which Harbinger immediately answered "Turians.........You're considered........too primitive...." WHAT? what the HELL does that mean? Too primitive? The Turians have the most organized society and most powerful Navy in the Galaxy! That is NOT primitive! does Garrus Vakarian look like baboon to you?

Sorry, dude but that was a cop-out. No good reason why the collectors selected Humans over Turians......other than the obvious: this game was made by humans and thus, is entirely Anthropocentric.

 

[Truehare]

Also, i don't get which "theory" you're referring to in the last spoiler tag. It's been a LONG time since I've watched the last season, let alone the first. (this year felt like a decade to me)

Spoiler: This is the theory I was talking about

During the first season of Lost, most viewers thought the characters were all dead and the Island was the Purgatory. The producers quickly dismissed that theory, and even ridiculed it several times (remember Gary Troup, the writer who was among the people who died in the crash? His name was an anagram for Purgatory).

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

Spoiler: This is the theory I was talking about

During the first season of Lost, most viewers thought the characters were all dead and the Island was the Purgatory. The producers quickly dismissed that theory, and even ridiculed it several times (remember Gary Troup, the writer who was among the people who died in the crash? His name was an anagram for Purgatory).

I didn't really see that as a "theory" so much as the survivors saying that stuff out of Hysteria and Panic. And i didn't know that about the anagram. Thanks for sharing.

 

[bob1052]

At the end of Black Ops,

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its apparent that Victor Reznov wasn't with you all those missions past the prison escape, as he was just a figment of your imagination due to brainwashing, which makes me wonder, how the hell did all those people get shot when we were on missions, did I shoot them? Was it someone else I was projecting Reznov on? Was it magic? None of these questions were answered at the end.

Spoiler: @Black Ops

You watch Victor kill that scientist, and later you watch it from another perspective and see yourself killing him. As far as in the actual mission, its a FPS, the story comes from cut-scenes and scripted events only. The fact that Reznov shot some random VC during a mission is irrelevant.