Twitter Used to Announce Criminal Execution
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This is a kind of tricky situation. How come real life doesn't abide by "top is Paragon, bottom is Renegade" conventions?
The pragmatist in me sees this as a faster, much more efficient form of press conference. Keeping the public informed on the details of a case I'm sure citizens of Utah have been following closely. Just in 140 characters, with a little bird in the corner.
I can see how people would see it as frivolous and disrespectful, but I don't share that opinion. Maybe it's just a crumb of far-rightness inherited from my mother, but the guy murdered a public servant trying to escape justice for another murder. How much respect does this scumbag really deserve?
The tweets (until people tried calling him on it) didn't strike me as frivolous. If anything, they were a bit over-dramatic. Hell, if the whole episode has done anything, it's humanized the AG. "Twitchen" alone would have got him my vote.
The pragmatist in me sees this as a faster, much more efficient form of press conference. Keeping the public informed on the details of a case I'm sure citizens of Utah have been following closely. Just in 140 characters, with a little bird in the corner.
I can see how people would see it as frivolous and disrespectful, but I don't share that opinion. Maybe it's just a crumb of far-rightness inherited from my mother, but the guy murdered a public servant trying to escape justice for another murder. How much respect does this scumbag really deserve?
The tweets (until people tried calling him on it) didn't strike me as frivolous. If anything, they were a bit over-dramatic. Hell, if the whole episode has done anything, it's humanized the AG. "Twitchen" alone would have got him my vote.
Wow. Just... wow. I hate to invoke Godwin's Law here, but... it's kind of unavoidable. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust#New_methods_of_mass_murder]Therumancer said:
:-D"
They're offered a choice between Firing Squad and Leathal Injection. Presumably, the condemned chose firing squad to bring media attention back to the question of the morality of capital punishment, perhaps as a favour for the person he murdered (who was against capital punishment).Jaredin said:
Excuse me if I get a bit righteous here, I am a member of Amnesty International after all, but the death penalty really has no redeeming merits. punishing murder with more murder simply results in one more person removed from existence. And don't try the "It costs less in the long run" argument, because each individual execution costs the state hundreds of thousands of dollars (see source), which is money that is sorely needed elsewhere.
I know this ain't really the place to rant about it, but the more people I make aware of this on as many mediums as possible means I'm making at least some progress.
http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty
I know this ain't really the place to rant about it, but the more people I make aware of this on as many mediums as possible means I'm making at least some progress.
http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty
Captain Pancake said:
If it really costs the state more money in the long run....they're doing it wrong. A box of bullets is insanely cheap.
Also, you are both right and wrong in that execution just removes one person from existence. But then that person happens to be a murderer, and most of the time they happen to be REPEAT OFFENDERS. Meaning Murder+. Meaning THEY HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE. If they had been executed cheaply the first time, their later victims would still be alive. THAT is what the death penalty is. Removing scum so that they can't do it again.
Twitter means different things to different people. Some people view it as a way to communicate their feelings to the world, while others think it's just an inane chatterbox for trivial things. This individual clearly falls into the former category. I think the only reason to take offense from a "should this be tweeted" standpoint is one having a stereotypical viewpoint of Twitter and possibly social networking in general.
Just disgusting. Both the tweeting and the execution.
I hope JaredXE is never accused of murder and has to defend himself in the wonderful US system. Otherwise, we'll see if he still likes states with the balls to execute "criminals" (yeah, it was a clear case this time, but the number of executions of wrongly accused people keeps rising).
I hope JaredXE is never accused of murder and has to defend himself in the wonderful US system. Otherwise, we'll see if he still likes states with the balls to execute "criminals" (yeah, it was a clear case this time, but the number of executions of wrongly accused people keeps rising).
I like how you try to gloss over that "it was a clear case this time", as if the vast majority of executions aren't in the right.paketep said:
Yeah, mistakes happen, they truly do. However, most of those mistakes are only coming to light now that we regularly use DNA evidence, which was not available back when those cases were first tried. Now that we do use DNA, the mistakes of current trials will drop dramatically, as if they weren't low enough to begin with. Basically, those who are put on death row DESERVE to be on death row.
Err... WHEN THE HELL was twitter defined as being it is ONLY FOR FLIPPANT STUFF!!!
Really, it's a 140 character limit to be read by followers, that's it.
I'm quite sure every new technology was at one point seen as flippant and non-serious until it is used for something serious. Just let it grow.
I mean I send stupid emails, does that mean emails are stupid and shouldn't be used for serious things?
Really, it's a 140 character limit to be read by followers, that's it.
I'm quite sure every new technology was at one point seen as flippant and non-serious until it is used for something serious. Just let it grow.
I mean I send stupid emails, does that mean emails are stupid and shouldn't be used for serious things?
Okay, I fear the internet more day by day... One more reason I'll never try Twitter in my life...
I said the same thing for Facebook though... Damn, Web 2.0 got me, HEEEEELP!!!!
I said the same thing for Facebook though... Damn, Web 2.0 got me, HEEEEELP!!!!
Wow. just...wow.
I mean... i appreciate that he was respectful and not like "just given go ahead to shoot a guy LOL" and all but... seriously?
From my perspective it seems like he was almost bragging about it, and what kind of sick bastard brags about killing a man?
I mean... i appreciate that he was respectful and not like "just given go ahead to shoot a guy LOL" and all but... seriously?
From my perspective it seems like he was almost bragging about it, and what kind of sick bastard brags about killing a man?
As for the costs argument regarding the death penalty itself, these could be corrected by a number of means:
1. Shoot them immediately after the guilty plea.
2. Turn the trial into a reality television program and allow taxable betting.
3. Judge Dredd.
All joking aside, I would like to see statistical data regarding the number of executions, wrongly accused people, and how many of those cases pertain to ones since the onset of reliable DNA evidence.
I honestly don't have enough hard data to have an opinion one way or the other, but it would take innocents being at risk for me to be genuinely opposed. I'd love to be opposed just on principle, but most of the murders I hear about sound like the work of rabid animals. It makes a sunny "all life is precious" outlook difficult. Signs of genuine remorse would help with that, but that seems rare.
1. Shoot them immediately after the guilty plea.
2. Turn the trial into a reality television program and allow taxable betting.
3. Judge Dredd.
All joking aside, I would like to see statistical data regarding the number of executions, wrongly accused people, and how many of those cases pertain to ones since the onset of reliable DNA evidence.
I honestly don't have enough hard data to have an opinion one way or the other, but it would take innocents being at risk for me to be genuinely opposed. I'd love to be opposed just on principle, but most of the murders I hear about sound like the work of rabid animals. It makes a sunny "all life is precious" outlook difficult. Signs of genuine remorse would help with that, but that seems rare.
