Tyranids

[BeastofShadow]

First time making a thread, so I've decided to talk about something I know.

As I'm sure many people know there is a table-top wargame called Warhammer 40000 produced by the company GamesWorkshop and is responsible for the universe Dawn of War is set.
The Tyranids where my first army nearly eleven years ago. They are now being updated with a scedualed release for 2010. I was wondering from my fellow 40k players what would you like to see done with the bugs?

 

[MetalBride]

I wouldn't call them bugs.. they are more reptilian in my opinion... but then again i didn't collect them i collected Tau and Chaos Space Marines.. Stated on a Nids army just before i stopped though...

 

[Elurindel]

First time making a thread, so I've decided to talk about something I know.

As I'm sure many people know there is a table-top wargame called Warhammer 40000 produced by the company GamesWorkshop and is responsible for the universe Dawn of War is set.
The Tyranids where my first army nearly eleven years ago. They are now being updated with a scedualed release for 2010. I was wondering from my fellow 40k players what would you like to see done with the bugs?

GW is quite adamant that the 'Nids are more akin to "Alien Dinosaurs", but then I personally wouldn't be inclined to call chintinous, six-legged, strangely-coloured carapace-covered creatures dinosaurs.

However, I would like to see the Nids keep the variety they have now. The newest codexes have really been taking away the array of choice available to a lot of armies, and I don't want to see that happen to an army that prides itself on constantly evolving to meet the latest threats.

 

[Legion]

It's been a while since I was up to date with 40K, all I know is the prices are getting higher and they update the Space Marines 3 times more often than any other race.

I would like to see something bigger than a Carnifex, like the Tyranid equivalent of the Bane-Blade tank.

I wouldn't call them bugs.. they are more reptilian in my opinion... but then again i didn't collect them i collected Tau and Chaos Space Marines.. Stated on a Nids army just before i stopped though...

Nah, they are bugs, they have a hive mind like ants do.

 

[karloss01]

from the current rules i see very little problems with it. points changes will be nice as hormagants are too expensive for what they are, orks and IG can do almost just as well and will usually outnumber them. a good invulerable save would be nice 6+ is pointless waste of points and psychic powers. from my view the nids do pretty well against the newer armies even though they are now more shooty then choppy these days.

EDIT:
@Machines Are Us
from warhammer websites people have noticed that theres pictures in the recent books of the tyranid trygon but with several changes to it like the head, people are guessing like IG got their valkyries tyranids may be getting a plastic trygon.

 

[fix-the-spade]

I'd like them to move away from the unified mix of insect/xenomorph that the designs currently follow in favour of a more varied asthetic.


They are supposed to be made up of the genes of all the creatures they consume, so why do they all look like variations of the same two or three species? The current ones don't look like they could or did consume planets, although admittedly they do look very cool.

A half way point between the current design and how The Flood are depicted in Last Voayage of the Infinite Succor would be perfect. They need to have more of that boiling mass of flesh look as well as the more defined monster.


Rules wise I don't know, I don't play.

 

[mklnjbh]

I would like to see something bigger than a Carnifex, like the Tyranid equivalent of the Bane-Blade tank.

I expect GW would use the Trygon (sp?) which is pretty much a giant Ravenor, which is a large worm-like creature with spiky carapace and a huge chompy maw.

 

[AmrasCalmacil]

It's been a while since I was up to date with 40K, all I know is the prices are getting higher and they update the Space Marines 3 times more often than any other race.

I would like to see something bigger than a Carnifex, like the Tyranid equivalent of the Bane-Blade tank.

A bit like smaller Tyranid Titans?

Spoiler: They're pretty damned cool.

I don't know, I rather like Tyranids as they are. Perhaps some models of Genestealer hybrids would be cool.

 

[dekkarax]

I would like to see something bigger than a Carnifex, like the Tyranid equivalent of the Bane-Blade tank.

I expect GW would use the Trygon (sp?) which is pretty much a giant Ravenor, which is a large worm-like creature with spiky carapace and a huge chompy maw.

Doesn't every tyranid (Apart from some lictors which have cthulu heads) have a chompy maw?

 

[Rolling Thunder]

It's been a while since I was up to date with 40K, all I know is the prices are getting higher and they update the Space Marines 3 times more often than any other race.

I would like to see something bigger than a Carnifex, like the Tyranid equivalent of the Bane-Blade tank.

I wouldn't call them bugs.. they are more reptilian in my opinion... but then again i didn't collect them i collected Tau and Chaos Space Marines.. Stated on a Nids army just before i stopped though...

Nah, they are bugs, they have a hive mind like ants do.

We've got a 'Fex/Blade - it's called a Scythed Hierodule. Tyranids get creatures up to the size of a Warhound Titan.

 

[MOe2012]

Tyranid Hierophant

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/hierop1.htm

Tyranid Trygon

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/trygon.htm

alot of the bigger models are found on forgeworld. The rules are found in the books they sell, I'm not sure if or how they would fit in to a standard 40k game as I don't know wether the rules are updated for them.

 

[Arachon]

The Tyranids are being updated again? Didn't they recieve an update not too long ago (like the release of 4th edition)? Doesn't anyone remember the Dark Eldar, they havn't had a codex since their first one back in '98, that's 11 years ago o,O

Then again, I no longer play the game, so I'm not that concerned anymore.

 

[BeastofShadow]

The Tyranids are being updated again? Didn't they recieve an update not too long ago (like the release of 4th edition)? Doesn't anyone remember the Dark Eldar, they havn't had a codex since their first one back in '98, that's 11 years ago o,O

The 3 40k races suspected for next year are Nids, Dark Eldar and Necrons. That'll bring a most of the 3ed codexes up to date leaving the 2 inqustion codexs. It's discraceful that they've been left this long as it is.

 

[BeastofShadow]

I wouldn't call them bugs.. they are more reptilian in my opinion... but then again i didn't collect them i collected Tau and Chaos Space Marines.. Stated on a Nids army just before i stopped though...

The fact you collected at all makes you a rarity lol

 

[BladesofReason]

The 3 40k races suspected for next year are Nids, Dark Eldar and Necrons. That'll bring a most of the 3ed codexes up to date leaving the 2 inqustion codexs. It's discraceful that they've been left this long as it is.

I've always been of the opinion that they should release an all encompassing Inquisition Codex and then a separate Codex for the Sisters of Battle.

As for the Tyranids, their current book is fine right now as far as I'm concerned. All they really need to do is adjust points and if they really feel the need add in a new unit or two or maybe a few new biomorphs. Most of the bio-titan beasts such as the Hierodule and the Trygon are not really fit for basic games and are covered in the Apocalypse rulebook.

I would much rather them update the Dark Eldar book which is in a woeful state of suspension. I collect Eldar, and now Night Lords and would love to collect Dark Eldar as well if they made a new book.

 

[MetalBride]

I wouldn't call them bugs.. they are more reptilian in my opinion... but then again i didn't collect them i collected Tau and Chaos Space Marines.. Stated on a Nids army just before i stopped though...

The fact you collected at all makes you a rarity lol

Awww and why is that? i collected for about 5 years won a couple painting competitions. Kicked some pretty good ass with my Tau Army too

 

[BeastofShadow]

I wouldn't call them bugs.. they are more reptilian in my opinion... but then again i didn't collect them i collected Tau and Chaos Space Marines.. Stated on a Nids army just before i stopped though...

The fact you collected at all makes you a rarity lol

Awww and why is that? i collected for about 5 years won a couple painting competitions. Kicked some pretty good ass with my Tau Army too

Not a huge hobby in Ireland. I've met one girl player with regular attendance at tournaments and such. You can paint? Damn I'm jealous. Tau, god I've such a terrible record against Tau.

 

[Sebobii]

It's been a while since I was up to date with 40K, all I know is the prices are getting higher and they update the Space Marines 3 times more often than any other race.

I would like to see something bigger than a Carnifex, like the Tyranid equivalent of the Bane-Blade tank.

I wouldn't call them bugs.. they are more reptilian in my opinion... but then again i didn't collect them i collected Tau and Chaos Space Marines.. Stated on a Nids army just before i stopped though...

Nah, they are bugs, they have a hive mind like ants do.

Ok I'm sorry...A hive mind "like ants do"? A hive mind is a science-fiction concept isn't it? It is true that when ants work together in large groups, they take on specific roles. This does not mean that they have a hive mind however.

 

[Wadders]

I find Nids really hard to relate to. Sure they're all cool and bad ass with their ability to eat worlds and all that shit, but I just find myself being bored by them.

Maybe my ill-feeling towards them stems from the fact that I could never beat my mates Nid army back in the day

Maybe it was 'cos he always bought out this fucking horrible papier machie (sp?) snake tyrant thing, which he claimed was legal because of some rules he dug out of White Dwarf where you could make your own creature...

Having never played as Nids, I'm not really sure what needs doing to them, and now I've long since stopped playing, I'm afraid i cant really offer a decent answer.

So all in all, another long and pointless post from me. Sorry.

 

[Amnestic]

It's been a while since I was up to date with 40K, all I know is the prices are getting higher and they update the Space Marines 3 times more often than any other race.

I would like to see something bigger than a Carnifex, like the Tyranid equivalent of the Bane-Blade tank.

I wouldn't call them bugs.. they are more reptilian in my opinion... but then again i didn't collect them i collected Tau and Chaos Space Marines.. Stated on a Nids army just before i stopped though...

Nah, they are bugs, they have a hive mind like ants do.

Ok I'm sorry...A hive mind "like ants do"? A hive mind is a science-fiction concept isn't it? It is true that when ants work together in large groups, they take on specific roles. This does not mean that they have a hive mind however.

Technically bees, ants and the like do have a "hive mind" just in a different way to the way Sci-Fi tends to depict it. Bees and ants are what we call 'social insects' and work at a higher level of organisation than most other creatures. The way Sci-Fi tends to depict it is one central brain which directs and orders the 'Swarm' (moving onto Starcraft territory here) as the Hive Mind directs. Our social insects aren't linked to a giant brain, but Tyranids and the Zerg, along with other sci-fi examples are.

So while the terminology was correct, the inference may have been slightly wrong.