Nine-TEEN, yes, I believe that qualifies as a teenTwenty Ninjas said:Wait, a 19-year-old is a "teen" now? ...what's the legal age of majority in the UK, again?
Nine-TEEN, yes, I believe that qualifies as a teenTwenty Ninjas said:Wait, a 19-year-old is a "teen" now? ...what's the legal age of majority in the UK, again?
What? I honestly do not understand why this world hates gullible people and loves conmen so much. For starters, the majority of people are full of themselves if they think that they're not susceptible to cons. Not all cons are obvious Nigerian princes or Pyramid schemes.Daaaah Whoosh said:You know, I actually agree with the conman on this one. If you're willing to put down $735 on something before checking for shenanigans like this, then you deserve to be taught a lesson. Although as I didn't see the listing, perhaps it was a bit difficult to tell.
Also, is that actually how much an Xbone is going for in the UK?
Ok I'll take this one... follow my logic here.Elamdri said:What? I honestly do not understand why this world hates gullible people and loves conmen so much.
Um... Yeah... I'm well aware that other counties pay more than we do. I've read that quite a bit. In fact, having watched a lot of Yahtzee, I'm fairly certain he's mentioned that at least once or twice for Australia, on top of the bullshit importing cost or the bullshit censorship practices certain countries go through. So, yes, I know that other places have it worse off. No need to label me as ignorant or entitled when you really have no way of accurately judging that based on a reactionary comment I made to an article about an individual who made (in my opinion) a not so great decision. And I make that judgment because I'm the kind of gamer who goes out of his way to find the best deals for the games and devices I play, not solely because I am thinking "har har, what an idiot."Pebkio said:snip
He's a Nine-what-year-old? Yes, nineTEEN is a TEEN number.Twenty Ninjas said:Wait, a 19-year-old is a "teen" now? ...what's the legal age of majority in the UK, again?
...and he's buying it for his four year old son? I...
...there are things about this news article. Things that are wrong, and in more than one way.
The Customer actually admitted that he SAW that it said it was just a photograph. He read "This is just a photograph," and reacted "Oh boy, it's the actual system!" No, this is 100% on him. It's a damn miracle he doesn't read "Poisonous, do not drink" on his laundry detergent and see "Yummy Gatorade" with his magic idiot eyes.Elamdri said:What? I honestly do not understand why this world hates gullible people and loves conmen so much. For starters, the majority of people are full of themselves if they think that they're not susceptible to cons. Not all cons are obvious Nigerian princes or Pyramid schemes.Daaaah Whoosh said:You know, I actually agree with the conman on this one. If you're willing to put down $735 on something before checking for shenanigans like this, then you deserve to be taught a lesson. Although as I didn't see the listing, perhaps it was a bit difficult to tell.
Also, is that actually how much an Xbone is going for in the UK?
All I see are "oh he should have read the fine print"
Fuck that, nobody reads the fine print. Nobody. Also, the "fine print" is against Ebay's ToS so...invalid. Conman's "Fine Print" doesn't mean jack.
Personally, I hope that Ebay sues conman and ruins him. They won't, but THAT would be something well deserved.
He also read that it wasn't in the photograph section of the site, meaning that it was also saying "this is not a photograph." Maybe it you should spend a little bit more time ranting about the conman for lying rather than a guy getting his money back after being conned. I do find it ironic that everybody keeps go on about different little tidbits about this while ignoring other ones when it suits them so that they can insult this guy.Bluestorm83 said:The Customer actually admitted that he SAW that it said it was just a photograph. He read "This is just a photograph," and reacted "Oh boy, it's the actual system!" No, this is 100% on him. It's a damn miracle he doesn't read "Poisonous, do not drink" on his laundry detergent and see "Yummy Gatorade" with his magic idiot eyes.Elamdri said:What? I honestly do not understand why this world hates gullible people and loves conmen so much. For starters, the majority of people are full of themselves if they think that they're not susceptible to cons. Not all cons are obvious Nigerian princes or Pyramid schemes.Daaaah Whoosh said:You know, I actually agree with the conman on this one. If you're willing to put down $735 on something before checking for shenanigans like this, then you deserve to be taught a lesson. Although as I didn't see the listing, perhaps it was a bit difficult to tell.
Also, is that actually how much an Xbone is going for in the UK?
All I see are "oh he should have read the fine print"
Fuck that, nobody reads the fine print. Nobody. Also, the "fine print" is against Ebay's ToS so...invalid. Conman's "Fine Print" doesn't mean jack.
Personally, I hope that Ebay sues conman and ruins him. They won't, but THAT would be something well deserved.
But he DIDN'T lie. If I go to Dunkin Donuts, and buy an Iced Coffee, I can't whine that I didn't get the donut I wanted. "Bu bu bu bu but, I bought it in Dunkin Donuts!" Yes, but it was advertised and sold and shown to you as a GD Iced Coffee. If you unwrap a snickers, and it is CLEARLY a dog shit inside, you don't go, "Welp, this was in a snickers wrapper, I'll ignore the way that it looks and smells and tastes like a dog shit." Human Beings are the lords of the Animal Kingdom, not because we're faster and stronger, but because we're SMARTER. It's time that the current generation takes up its mantle and behaves like it.Revnak said:He also read that it wasn't in the photograph section of the site, meaning that it was also saying "this is not a photograph." Maybe it you should spend a little bit more time ranting about the conman for lying rather than a guy getting his money back after being conned. I do find it ironic that everybody keeps go on about different little tidbits about this while ignoring other ones when it suits them so that they can insult this guy.Bluestorm83 said:The Customer actually admitted that he SAW that it said it was just a photograph. He read "This is just a photograph," and reacted "Oh boy, it's the actual system!" No, this is 100% on him. It's a damn miracle he doesn't read "Poisonous, do not drink" on his laundry detergent and see "Yummy Gatorade" with his magic idiot eyes.Elamdri said:What? I honestly do not understand why this world hates gullible people and loves conmen so much. For starters, the majority of people are full of themselves if they think that they're not susceptible to cons. Not all cons are obvious Nigerian princes or Pyramid schemes.Daaaah Whoosh said:You know, I actually agree with the conman on this one. If you're willing to put down $735 on something before checking for shenanigans like this, then you deserve to be taught a lesson. Although as I didn't see the listing, perhaps it was a bit difficult to tell.
Also, is that actually how much an Xbone is going for in the UK?
All I see are "oh he should have read the fine print"
Fuck that, nobody reads the fine print. Nobody. Also, the "fine print" is against Ebay's ToS so...invalid. Conman's "Fine Print" doesn't mean jack.
Personally, I hope that Ebay sues conman and ruins him. They won't, but THAT would be something well deserved.
And with this little gem I'm out. Best to leave the argument before people begin declaring the fourth Reich.Bluestorm83 said:Human Beings are the lords of the Animal Kingdom, not because we're faster and stronger, but because we're SMARTER. It's time that the current generation takes up its mantle and behaves like it.
You've got a good point there, why the hell would you get a 4 year old an Xbox!? I'd understand letting him play one of those touch pad devices, i've even seen 4 year olds use a DS, but an Xbox!Frost27 said:I noticed and immediately called BS on the old "it's for my kid" line. That is probably the tear jerker hook he used thinking it would increase ebay's chances of paying him back.
Yep, that's what we do. We simultaneously make it so the most idiotic among us get a free ride, and then compare someone who expects people to live up to their potential to a genocidal ideal. Nice of you.Revnak said:And with this little gem I'm out. Best to leave the argument before people begin declaring the fourth Reich.Bluestorm83 said:Human Beings are the lords of the Animal Kingdom, not because we're faster and stronger, but because we're SMARTER. It's time that the current generation takes up its mantle and behaves like it.
In America people are held to written contractual obligations that are made apparent, eg no fine print, no weird language. Unless he's claiming there was fraud, which will be difficult considering the product exactly matches its explicit description, this guy has no real argument. Thus, he is lucky the company was being nice and gave him his money back. He's an idiot.Caiphus said:Exactly. Which was not totally relevant to the rest of your first post, unless I'm reading it totally wrong:Nasrin said:No, I do not believe that I misused the phrase. In legal practice it is commonly known that being unaware of the law does not excuse you from being liable for it. I think I said that adequately.
"I still thought I would be getting an Xbox One, despite the description" is not ignorance of the law. That is ignorance of the facts or of the situation. Which may or may not be relevant depending on the consumer rights laws of your country. I would imagine most countries have an objective test to be decided by the court as to whether conduct was deceptive or misleading.If it was clearly printed in the description then that's on you
Ignorance of the law would be the buyer saying "I thought that I would be protected against all misconceptions on my part. Therefore I should be."
Pay no attention to my post then. It was late, and I probably assumed that we were talking about the actual listing, rather than a hypothetical perfectly clear listing.Nasrin said:In America people are held to written contractual obligations that are made apparent, eg no fine print, no weird language. Unless he's claiming there was fraud, which will be difficult considering the product exactly matches its explicit description, this guy has no real argument. Thus, he is lucky the company was being nice and gave him his money back. He's an idiot.
I still have no idea what it is that you're confused about with regard to my comment.