U.S. Government Proposes "Internet Kill Switch"
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Hah, another reason I'm proud to be British!
But it is insane, it's like something Kevin Rudd would do
But it is insane, it's like something Kevin Rudd would do
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If this comes to pass, America, don't say I didn't warn you.
This is nearly as bad as the proposed Internet Big Brother for the UK... V_V
If this comes to pass, America, don't say I didn't warn you.
This is nearly as bad as the proposed Internet Big Brother for the UK... V_V
Yes. Flipping the information superhighway off is a perfect way to protect the economy...Tdc2182 said:
...By causing virtually every business to close its doors for a day, if not longer.
"Help fight domestic terrorism by creating it!"
That'll learn them Cyber-Terrorists.
giving anyone this kind of power over something as big as the internet is a terrible idea. this is just like having a button to launch nukes, except maybe a little less destructive- anyway, the same argument applies, giving such a large and powerful government, or any body in a position of power, more power gives them the possibility to misuse it! WE GOTTA TAKE THE POWER BACK!!!!
I failed to realize that our government was run by Jesus Christ, my mistake!SirBryghtside said:
What I think you fail to see is that the government has access to that button whenever it wants it in that case. It might be "for emergencies only" but manufacturing an emergency which would warrant the button's use would be very easy (I say at risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, I know). I personally don't trust anyone with that kind of power - the more power someone has, the more likely they are to abuse it and the easier it gets for them to do so.
Second, the switch creates its own weak spot. All someone would have to do is engineer a situation which lead the U.S to use the button and they've successfully shut-down a major facet of American life. Isn't the whole point of fighting against terror not giving up those things important to you?
Which brings me to my third point. The kill-switch is hypocritical. I can understand wanting to fight terror and not give up your freedoms but what this does is allow the government to shut down the internet for anything it deems an emergency. In allowing this to happen, we give up our freedom to access information and allow the goverment a significantly higher level of control.
I hope you'll forgive me if I seem harsh throughout this rant, I don't enjoy being referred to as an exhibit like an animal on display. Especially coming from someone who can so easily judge others - your opinion is just as valid as my own and I do attempt to respect the opinions of others while stating problems that I have. I just wish you would do the same.
Oh man, I lol'd. Ok, hold on a second. First of all, they obviously need to be aware of an ongoing attack... and they are going to stop it by killing the INTERNET? That's like killing a mosquito with a tactical nuclear strike. Was this suggested by Al Gore or does the US government actually employ monkeys in their counter-terrorist departments? Network security experts around the world are peeing themselves with laughter right now, I can guarantee you that. Also, "hacking" a bank or a military or government network is impossible in 2010. I'm pretty sure they know that! So, there is obviously a different agenda behind this hilarious proposition, and, whatever it is, I can't say I like it.
"Cyber-9/11"? Have these people got the slightest clue to how the Internet works? What a hacker does? What information security is?
These people come off as technophobic Luddites to me, if a hack- sorry, I mean "cyber-terrorist" manages to gain administrator access to something vital, then not only has whatever agency that's in charge of the US info- I mean "cyber-security" systems (NSA?) failed their job quite monumentally, but "switching off" the Internet won't fucking work.
These people come off as technophobic Luddites to me, if a hack- sorry, I mean "cyber-terrorist" manages to gain administrator access to something vital, then not only has whatever agency that's in charge of the US info- I mean "cyber-security" systems (NSA?) failed their job quite monumentally, but "switching off" the Internet won't fucking work.
I saw "Cyber 9/11".
I lol'd terribly.
I scrolled down.
Similar opinion.
I have no compassion for the crap that regularly comes out of high ranking American (world, more like) politicians.
I lol'd terribly.
I scrolled down.
Similar opinion.
I have no compassion for the crap that regularly comes out of high ranking American (world, more like) politicians.
At no point did I say that I supported the idea of a switch like that and when I said the thing about freedom, I meant that it was messed up that people like that should even be allowed in congress. By the way, did you just pull all that stuff about terrorists and stealing freedom out of your ass? Because most of it has nothing to do with the thread or what I put on my post. It's also very ignorant for people like you that live in America to complain about the lack of freedom and injustice when we're one of the most privelaged nations in the world.Digitaldreamer7 said:
Sadly, I have not watched Dr. Who.SirBryghtside said:
Though since we're using clever analogies, I'll propose one here; this killswitch is the digital form of a tactical nuke. It's a weapon of mass destruction that could be used to threaten or coerce entities the globe over into compliance with whatever the US government wants.
It's existence carries more significance than the likelihood of it actually being used; similar to the nuclear standoff between Russia and the United States during the Cold War.
Hence, my previous statement about "fighting terror by creating it".
Rather, instead of ending life as we know it via mutually assured destruction, the killswitch will cripple the world's economy (make no mistake, America's economy will plummet too), having consequences that are impossible to predict long term.
But so long as nobody pushes that button, world peace can endure...as long as you play nice with the US Government.
Additionally, by seizing control of the ISPs through bullshit emergency powers, the government can, effectively, declare martial law on my country and control all our major businesses through legal duress.
It's naive indeed to give a single entity so much power, and expect them not to use it towards their own ends; because that's human nature.
Can we haz a goverment kill switch first? you know you cast a vote once every year if more than 50% of the public votes yes everyone in the House,Senate and presidential office/cabinet,ect get fired with no pension and re elections are held ASAP all that matters the same people are not in office anymore.......
I am super late to the party on this one, but someone has started work on a GIF of a plane flying into a server tower, right?
More idiotic politicians (actually, I think this enters punditry territory) making plans for something (which they believe is ingenious) that would make matters worse than the act they were supposed to prevent (anybody thinking about the Prohibition?). Did this guy even THINK about the repercussions of turning off the internet? Because alot of important businesses rely on the internet. Turning off the internet could damage commerce in the USA, and if the off switch is left on too long, global commerce could take a heavy beating.
From what I can understand, Mr. Lieberman is still living in the Cold War; and thinks anyone who doesn't understand the "real and present danger" (see what I did there?) from his era is asking for trouble.Hannan4mitch said:
Now, I'm all about proactive defense or trying to prevent problems before they happen, but if the measures being taken are worse than the alleged danger (which may not even exist at all) they are meant to stop, it's definitely a bad plan.
Either Mr. Lieberman doesn't have a goddamn clue about the connotations of what he's actually proposing, or he's gone mad.
Whether it's mad for power, or just regular batshit bonkers...well, I cannot say for certain.
It's just bad either way.
Dear Senator Lieberman,
You're why foreigners hate us.
Is this legal?, in the U.S. at least?
You probably can't do this to other countries,
Good luck convincing every other senator.
Good luck convincing the hundreds in the house of Representatives.
This will make many, many citizens angry.
You're why foreigners hate us.
Is this legal?, in the U.S. at least?
You probably can't do this to other countries,
Good luck convincing every other senator.
Good luck convincing the hundreds in the house of Representatives.
This will make many, many citizens angry.