I'm less critical of Ubisoft on this one. Ubisoft has so far been correcting all of its bad decisions and has been overall on the up and up. This is a big mistake, don't get me wrong, but I that's all it was. It happens.
I LOVE THIS! "Well yea, you bought a product that wasn't as advertised, but let's be frank... Even if it were as advertised, it would suck. We're all about online multi-player." Seriously? You want to make a game that's all about online multi-player? Great! DO IT! Advertise accordingly. Otherwise, this game isn't as advertised. Point made.NLS said:Steam generally don't issue refunds, and that's it. The campaign is not the main point of the game, online multiplayer is the main focus. Tripwire has stated that co-op is coming in a later patch, but that they are currently not satisfied with their implementation.Namehere said:WOW! Flash backs to Steam retailing Red Orchestra 2 or what? I picked that game up on Christmas with a buddy hoping to get in some multi-player co-op action and... not happening! No refund was offered. And what do you do when the problem was Steam to begin with, as I understand it? Not only is the industry strolling down a fiery lane better known to some as hell, but to make matters worse its communications lines between publishers and distributors seems to have gone on ahead of them. There are only two reasons this could be; one being that they have shitty communications lines, the other being that someone's holding things back, usually for a contractual dance of the damned. Either way, it was bad enough when they were lying badly to their customers. Its ridiculous now that they've adopted the CIA technique of plausible deniability. Who the hell knows whose screwing up, but someone really is these days.
Buying a new game looks more and more like gambling. Roll the dice and hope for the best.
Its not really that satisfying playing solo cause the AI always succeeds at the stealthy bits and timing shots at the same time as you and the rest of it just plays like a third person shooter.duchaked said:that's a pretty big WHOOPS
especially coming from someone who really enjoys playing split-screen co-op with a buddy on the couch (good ol' Halo days)
sad to hear, though I'm still giving Future Soldier a try soon enough, albeit solo :[
No its because valve is not a publicly traded company, thus does not need to bend to the will of investors.Hornet0404 said:Could it be that we are dealing with HUGE corporations that unlike Valve needs to coordinate lots of offices filled with even more people (long story short, shit logistics)?Savber said:Why is it so hard to be honest in the gaming business? Why is it so hard to be like CDPR and Valve? W H Y?!!!
Valve is easier to deal with since it's only relatively few people who work together to make the thing fit together (fewer components usually mean fewer things to go wrong and when they do go wrong they are more easily limited and repaired).
That too could be a factor.Plazmatic said:No its because valve is not a publicly traded company, thus does not need to bend to the will of investors.Hornet0404 said:Could it be that we are dealing with HUGE corporations that unlike Valve needs to coordinate lots of offices filled with even more people (long story short, shit logistics)?Savber said:Why is it so hard to be honest in the gaming business? Why is it so hard to be like CDPR and Valve? W H Y?!!!
Valve is easier to deal with since it's only relatively few people who work together to make the thing fit together (fewer components usually mean fewer things to go wrong and when they do go wrong they are more easily limited and repaired).
M O N E Y..Savber said:Why is it so hard to be honest in the gaming business? Why is it so hard to be like CDPR and Valve? W H Y?!!!
Can't we just take their apology in the spirit in which it was meant?TopazFusion said:You never know. Now consumers might be spooked.DVS BSTrD said:Let's hope they caught this early enough do that it doesn't come back to haunt them on opening day.
That would be nice. I miss hearing/reading positive discussions about games, instead of people zoning in on every small mistake and tearing it apart. Constructive criticism instead of outright abuse would be nice too.Grey Day for Elcia said:It's kind of sad how much bullshit goes on in this community (gaming as a whole). If people aren't crying, they're accusing others of being fanboys and apologists.
Can we go back to the time when we just play the fucking games?
Indeed. Have they done a new Silent Hunter lately?Hornet0404 said:Ubisoft haven't added an Always-On DRM to Ghost Recon Future Soldier (PC). Instead they only require an one-time registration. (http://www.gamepur.com/news/7758-ghost-recon-future-soldier-no-always-online-drm-only-one-time-activation-ne.html)
Personally I think that as with any addict we should support them every step of the way towards putting away the DRM.
Not that I know of.Phishfood said:Indeed. Have they done a new Silent Hunter lately?Hornet0404 said:Ubisoft haven't added an Always-On DRM to Ghost Recon Future Soldier (PC). Instead they only require an one-time registration. (http://www.gamepur.com/news/7758-ghost-recon-future-soldier-no-always-online-drm-only-one-time-activation-ne.html)
Personally I think that as with any addict we should support them every step of the way towards putting away the DRM.
clearly this was just a Spook i doubt it wall cause anyone a bump in the nightThe Rogue Wolf said:Can't we just take their apology in the spirit in which it was meant?TopazFusion said:You never know. Now consumers might be spooked.DVS BSTrD said:Let's hope they caught this early enough do that it doesn't come back to haunt them on opening day.
[small]I feel so dirty now.[/small]
But yeah, I don't smell a conspiracy here. Just another instance of foot-in-mouth disease, where the marketing folks didn't actually listen to the technical folks.
yessss... yeeeeeesss...The Rogue Wolf said:[small]I feel so dirty now.[/small]
hmm...actually knowing my friends, anything involving stealth (or anything that involves relying on them) just leads to frustrationgetoffmycloud said:Its not really that satisfying playing solo cause the AI always succeeds at the stealthy bits and timing shots at the same time as you and the rest of it just plays like a third person shooter.duchaked said:that's a pretty big WHOOPS
especially coming from someone who really enjoys playing split-screen co-op with a buddy on the couch (good ol' Halo days)
sad to hear, though I'm still giving Future Soldier a try soon enough, albeit solo :[