UFC President Warns Fighters Against EA Sports MMA
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You can't believe what Dana White said about EA's refusal to make a game, he's the King of Bullshit and the Sultan of Spin.
I doubt they really said the MMA isn't a sport, I think what is closer to the truth is that they just didn't want to make a UFC game and deal with all his sharky business tactics. They may have said that they didn't think the UFC was a proper sport, which is no surprise as it's been resembling the WWE more and more.
EA probably wanted to make a MMA game, just not a UFC game and if they had made a deal with the UFC then the type of game they could have made would have been extremely limited.
EA probably knows that there's a whole lot more to the sport of MMA than just the UFC, and like their Fight Night games, wanted to make a MMA game with fighters and rules from more than one organisation.
For example, in their game they'll want to feature fighters who are heavier than 265lbs and lighter than 145lb,
they'll want to have matches take place in a ring rather then a cage,
they'll want to feature legends of the sport and well know international fighters from other organisations like Affliction, Strikforce, Dream, Sengoku, K1 etc. rather than be limited by the roster of relative unknowns that the UFC has,
they'll probably want to make a game with an ever popular 'Tournament mode',
they might even want to make a game which features kicks and knees to a downed opponent,
and like Fight Night features Ali as it's 'poster boy', they probably would want their MMA game to feature the best MMA fighter in the world, Fedor, who the UFC tries to deny exists (probably because he wouldn't sign with them and sign away all rights to his likeness for life).
Dana White is notorious for his shady business practices, the strict contracts he forces people to sign and the fascistic way he tries to control people, so it's no wonder EA (who are no strangers to questionable business tactics themselves) didn't want to get into bed with him.
I think it's really bad for the sport that he's decreed than any fighters who appear in EA's MMA game won't ever be allowed to compete in the UFC, it's like he's trying to monopolise the sport and control fighters who don't even work for him.
It's like he's forcing hard working fighters not to make some extra money to help support their families, on the hope that they'll be signed up with the UFC, which may not even happen.
Plus if they did reject the chance to be in EA's game and did sign up with the UFC, Dana White would still drop them after 1 loss yet, control their image rights for life, preventing them from making any sponsorship money in the future.
When THQ's UFC game was being developed, there were a few fighters and independent trainers and gyms, who had a falling out with Dana White because they refused to sign away their perpetual image rights for free, which he demanded for the game, so don't think Dana White is better than EA, in fact he's a lot worse.
I doubt they really said the MMA isn't a sport, I think what is closer to the truth is that they just didn't want to make a UFC game and deal with all his sharky business tactics. They may have said that they didn't think the UFC was a proper sport, which is no surprise as it's been resembling the WWE more and more.
EA probably wanted to make a MMA game, just not a UFC game and if they had made a deal with the UFC then the type of game they could have made would have been extremely limited.
EA probably knows that there's a whole lot more to the sport of MMA than just the UFC, and like their Fight Night games, wanted to make a MMA game with fighters and rules from more than one organisation.
For example, in their game they'll want to feature fighters who are heavier than 265lbs and lighter than 145lb,
they'll want to have matches take place in a ring rather then a cage,
they'll want to feature legends of the sport and well know international fighters from other organisations like Affliction, Strikforce, Dream, Sengoku, K1 etc. rather than be limited by the roster of relative unknowns that the UFC has,
they'll probably want to make a game with an ever popular 'Tournament mode',
they might even want to make a game which features kicks and knees to a downed opponent,
and like Fight Night features Ali as it's 'poster boy', they probably would want their MMA game to feature the best MMA fighter in the world, Fedor, who the UFC tries to deny exists (probably because he wouldn't sign with them and sign away all rights to his likeness for life).
Dana White is notorious for his shady business practices, the strict contracts he forces people to sign and the fascistic way he tries to control people, so it's no wonder EA (who are no strangers to questionable business tactics themselves) didn't want to get into bed with him.
I think it's really bad for the sport that he's decreed than any fighters who appear in EA's MMA game won't ever be allowed to compete in the UFC, it's like he's trying to monopolise the sport and control fighters who don't even work for him.
It's like he's forcing hard working fighters not to make some extra money to help support their families, on the hope that they'll be signed up with the UFC, which may not even happen.
Plus if they did reject the chance to be in EA's game and did sign up with the UFC, Dana White would still drop them after 1 loss yet, control their image rights for life, preventing them from making any sponsorship money in the future.
When THQ's UFC game was being developed, there were a few fighters and independent trainers and gyms, who had a falling out with Dana White because they refused to sign away their perpetual image rights for free, which he demanded for the game, so don't think Dana White is better than EA, in fact he's a lot worse.
most organizations use the cage tho, only a couple use a ringJamash said:
actually only the rather hardcore fans actually know who a lot of the fighters outside of the UFC are. most people have no idea who Kazushi Sakuraba, Takanori Gomi, Hayato Sakurai or Ricardo Arona are
actually the UFC does know who he is and has been wanting him to fight for them for a while, they just can't reach an agreement and has nothing to do with the likeness signing
O.O EA want's to cash in on a proven good idea? I'M IN SHOCK.
Seriously, Dana White has every right to be pissed off. But still, you didn't see that coming, Mr. White? EA saw an opportunity when YOUR GAME did so well. That doesn't mean EA MMA will be any good.
And yes, Dana White can tell all the UFC fighters that they can't appear in EA's game as long as they're under contract. It's like if AJ Styles wanted to be in the next WWE SvR game. He can't, because he's under contract with TNA. But blackmailing non-UFC fighters...that's a dick move. I mean, DICK MOVE.
Oh, I'm sorry, I meant [expletive] move.
Seriously, Dana White has every right to be pissed off. But still, you didn't see that coming, Mr. White? EA saw an opportunity when YOUR GAME did so well. That doesn't mean EA MMA will be any good.
And yes, Dana White can tell all the UFC fighters that they can't appear in EA's game as long as they're under contract. It's like if AJ Styles wanted to be in the next WWE SvR game. He can't, because he's under contract with TNA. But blackmailing non-UFC fighters...that's a dick move. I mean, DICK MOVE.
Oh, I'm sorry, I meant [expletive] move.
Mr. White is awesome. This is typical EA, and he's calling them on it. Good for him.
If a developer did that to me, no WAY would I let them change their minds and come back later after I had already done the work and proven the formula a success. No, I'd tell them where they could tenderly place their contract.
EA want all the lovely money, but they weren't willing to market or help design an MMA game when it was an uncharted territory, despite the fact that their brand name (stupidly) carries some weight in the gaming community among sports game enthusiasts, and could have helped get more sales for the hard-working developers (and themselves). Now that the UFC game concept has been proven, they want to step in and reap the rewards. No. It shouldn't work that way. Just because they're a business doesn't mean they can buy up licenses that just a short time ago they were spitting on.
And yeah, the EA MMA game probably wouldn't be any good regardless of how many fighters it had, but so what? People need to understand that EA doesn't make games to make GOOD games, they make games to make MONEY. Doesn't matter if the new EA game is crap, stupids will see the EA label and buy 20 copies anyway.
If a developer did that to me, no WAY would I let them change their minds and come back later after I had already done the work and proven the formula a success. No, I'd tell them where they could tenderly place their contract.
EA want all the lovely money, but they weren't willing to market or help design an MMA game when it was an uncharted territory, despite the fact that their brand name (stupidly) carries some weight in the gaming community among sports game enthusiasts, and could have helped get more sales for the hard-working developers (and themselves). Now that the UFC game concept has been proven, they want to step in and reap the rewards. No. It shouldn't work that way. Just because they're a business doesn't mean they can buy up licenses that just a short time ago they were spitting on.
And yeah, the EA MMA game probably wouldn't be any good regardless of how many fighters it had, but so what? People need to understand that EA doesn't make games to make GOOD games, they make games to make MONEY. Doesn't matter if the new EA game is crap, stupids will see the EA label and buy 20 copies anyway.
turns out Im not the only one..
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Will I get banned(again) for posting that? Probably..but it proves my point about how MMA and how the media only shows that kind of stuff on tv for ratings..same thing that Jerry Springer used to do..and Maury Povich does with "..you are the baby's father"..They just do it for the "shock" value and ratings.
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so excuse me for saying what 2 other well known sources are saying about televised MMA..
Will I get banned(again) for posting that? Probably..but it proves my point about how MMA and how the media only shows that kind of stuff on tv for ratings..same thing that Jerry Springer used to do..and Maury Povich does with "..you are the baby's father"..They just do it for the "shock" value and ratings.
so excuse me for saying what 2 other well known sources are saying about televised MMA..
Honestly I'm not to sympathetic to either side in this "war".
EA, when someone asks for a partnership and you spit on them for it, they're gonna be pissed off. And when they get a deal with someone else to do the same thing and it works, then suddenly you want in, of coarse there not going to want to work with you.
that being said...
Mr.White, while you don't have to work with EA, ruining someones career just because they want to is not OK. A "good" boss would explain the situation to his employees and hope they would make the "right" decision.
EA, when someone asks for a partnership and you spit on them for it, they're gonna be pissed off. And when they get a deal with someone else to do the same thing and it works, then suddenly you want in, of coarse there not going to want to work with you.
that being said...
Mr.White, while you don't have to work with EA, ruining someones career just because they want to is not OK. A "good" boss would explain the situation to his employees and hope they would make the "right" decision.