UK and Australian retail stores reduce Nintendo Stock.

Roxas1359

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But they're selling the Wii U at a loss.
Most if not all consoles initially sell their product at a loss. They recover it later on though. For example, the PS3 initially sold at about a $500 loss, but managed to break even a few years later after major restructuring, and now the PS4 is selling at only a $60 loss at launch.

OT: Well this isn't good for Nintendo. I do feel that markets are really starting to cut down on Nintendo's shelf time, but at the same time I don't blame the stores if the console hasn't been selling well at all and the stores have had to reduce the prices of the consoles immensely to even try to get them to sell.

Nintendo dropped the ball extremely when it came to advertising their console, and that's still a problem here. People still think that the Wii U is just an expansion of the Wii that just costs more and don't know it's a new console, which shows how naming a console really has an impact here. Then they only advertise a few games every now and then, and even then if it's not first party then it's treated like crap. Not once has there been a Wonderful 101 ad on TV nor has there been one interrupting me as I'm watching a YouTube video, and what's the result? Wonderful 101, while it's an excellent game, has flopped completely. Hell Wind Waker U has been out on the eShop for a while now, no idea why Nintendo isn't releasing the physical copies at the same time as the digital ones. Especially since I know many people who do have a Wii U (myself included) are avoiding the eShop for a lot of things because of the fact that there is no account system at all.
 

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Trying to draw any conclusions from what Dick Smith does is silly, the company is in a transition from being owned by Woolworths to a new private equity firm and even before that they only ever dabbled in gaming. To be honest Big W (Woolowth's department store) was always more game focused than Dicksmith was. As someone said above if it was EB, JB or Gametraders then you could start drawing some conclusions, even if it was Kmart, Target or Big W you could get some ideas but not Dicksmith
 

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Could Nintendo drop out of the console race next gen?
Unlikely.

Bear in mind this is the company that sucked up the losses from Virtual Boy like it was nothing, plus suffered sequential 'failures' for two home hardware generations (N64 then Gamecube). Neither of those stopped them making hardware.

Wii U looks to be doing worse than either of the N64 or Cube, mainly because there's no 'real' Nintendo games out. Pikmin 3 arrived and was somewhat underwhelming, Smash Brothers is coming at some point and Mario, Zelda, Metroid and Starfox are notable by their absence so far. At this point it might be too late even for those to drive sales as physically getting hold of the hardware is becoming difficult. It's nowhere near a Virtual Boy type disaster though.

Conversely, it took the 3DS and Wii well over a year each to get going, the 3DS especially was all set up to be a massive bomb, which seems silly now. Nobody has the ability to come out of a bad situation richer quite like Nintendo.

If the Wii U is truly unrecoverable, expect a true 'next gen' Nintendo console with absurd amounts of money thrown at first party titles, they won't abandon hardware as it's their preferred method of DRM. I don't really understand why they haven't started putting old games (like early Pokemon, Mario and Zelda etc) onto the Itunes store though. There is an opportunity to make all the money doing that for minimal cost and those title's respective hardware generations are long past the point of profitable.
 

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This is sad, but expected (For the WiiU, currently). Surprisingly though, they also shrank space for the 3DS/DS! That I don't understand. My guess is Europe just isn't for Nintendo. The only time Nintendo's ever done well in Europe was the NES, and even then the Sega Master System was a powerhouse there.

Still, I hope that they reverse course after this Christmas, and expand the Nintendo sections of their game isles.
 

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Mr.Mattress said:
The only time Nintendo's ever done well in Europe was the NES, and even then the Sega Master System was a powerhouse there.
Really that was more because of the fact that the NES was released in Europe extremely late for some strange reason and so Sega took the opportunity and got the strongest foothold there. Sony's systems actually do extremely well in Europe nowadays though.

When you think about it Nintendo's has the most success in Japan and North America, Microsoft really in North America and some parts of Europe, and Sony's been pretty even all around.
 

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I'd almost look to see wal-mart do it to.
Granted the 3-4 i'm in are slower 120-200 million dollar year sales stores but the five week running average wii u sales are less than one a week. The whole accessories rack and game rack except for nsmbU has collected a layer of dust. No one even messes w/ the demo wii U but are still playing PS3.

Unless N is still paying them for salesfloor space then when PSONE comes out I don't know where they will stock it. especially since ps3 and 360 still move quite a bit of volume.
 

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Unless N is still paying them for salesfloor space then when PSONE comes out I...
They're rereleasing the PSOne!? How did I not know of this, I loved that little thing:


Sorry, could resist making a joke like that. It was too easy for me. XD

Although you are right that people just aren't interested in the Wii U really it seems. I mean go to a lot of tech stores, hell just went to Fry's Electronics a few hours ago, and no one is ever playing the Wii U Demo Station. The same thing in GameStops as well, and the displays and the demos are right there in broad daylight that's for sure. Especially since they are using the Basic models for the Wii U demo stations and that bright white console definitely catches yours eyes, but sadly not people's interests.
 

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Dick Smith's sells games now?

I mean, in all due seriousness, who goes to DSE specifically to buy games? They've had bare-bones product for pretty much every console for as long as I can remember.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
So I guess that means by the time the Wii-U might actually become attractive in both price and game library, it'll be so obscure you won't even be able to get one.

It's the Gamecube for me all over again.
Not to sound trite, but there is this thing called online shopping which wasn't nearly as prevalent in the Gamecube era. It's actually driving brick-and-mortar shops out of business with how popular it is. I have a hunch that Wii U's might be available in plentiful supply online to anyone who's interested...
Maybe, maybe not... but when brick and mortar electronic places die out, you know who makes the most out of their losses? Supermarkets. Tesco is about the third or fourth biggest electronics retailer in the UK (behind the Dixons group (Currys and PC World) and possibly John Lewis and/or Argos - I'm excluding Amazon for the moment), and they're not a small company to be pulling out. If this was Morrisons abandoning ship I wouldn't care, but this is Tesco - have a think about how many young'uns are dragged round there by uninterested mums (and be honest, Nintendo still has the appearance in the UK of targeting youngsters and the uninterested), and how many of those people are now less likely to be exposed to Nintendo tech.

Honestly, if I was head of Nintendo Europe, I'd be finding out who runs their marketing division in the UK and lighting the mother of all fires under their arse, because right now you're doing a better job of trying to sell the console over here than Nintendo have.
 

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what really makes me suspicious is that they reduced 3DS stock. Okay, the Wii U is one thing...but reducing stock for the 3DS is pants-on-head retarded. I think this is more of a sign that this retailer's executives are huffing paint.
 

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Andy Shandy said:
Well it's certainly not good. The two biggest supermarkets (ASDA, and now Tesco) basically dropping nearly all Wii U stuff? Yeah, not exactly a great sign.

Hell, there's barely any Wii U stuff in my local GAME. You want to know how many copies of The Wonderful 101 they got it for example? 6. In total.
The Eupho Guy said:
Is the WiiU dead? Not really. Not from this, anyway. My experience with Dick Smith's is that they only stock a bare minimum of each systems best selling game lines at the best of times, so all in all it won't be that big of a loss. Were it EB Games (The Australian version of Gamestop) or JB HiFi that would be more of a concern, but its not, so I wouldn't read a whole lot into it.
EB Games is an American company owned by Gamestop. Started right outside of Philadelphia and eventually grew and opened up stores in the UK, Australia, etc
 

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No. Even if they completely fuck up this gen, they have enough money to weather out a couple of hiccups.
Just because they can weather it, doesn't mean they would. Shareholders do not appreciate it when management wastes THEIR money.
 

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Is the WiiU dead? Not really. Not from this, anyway. My experience with Dick Smith's is that they only stock a bare minimum of each systems best selling game lines at the best of times, so all in all it won't be that big of a loss. Were it EB Games (The Australian version of Gamestop) or JB HiFi that would be more of a concern, but its not, so I wouldn't read a whole lot into it.
^ this, pretty much. As far as Australia goes, Dick Smith isn't exactly a major retailer as far as gaming goes.

That's not to say the system is doing well in all other retailers, of course, or that other retailers won't follow suit. But Dick Smith alone selling down stock isn't something you should read too much into.
 

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So I guess that means by the time the Wii-U might actually become attractive in both price and game library, it'll be so obscure you won't even be able to get one.

It's the Gamecube for me all over again.
I don't think it's doing as well as the Gamecube did. I like your optimism though.
 

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Oh noes, Tesco won't sell as many Nintendo products anymore! Whatever will I do? Oh hey look, a Gamestop, guess I'll go there. Seriously, who gets their consoles/games from frigging Tesco? They have, what, 3 games tops at a time? HMV would be a better indication that it's going badly.
 

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NightWolfe978 said:
Andy Shandy said:
Well it's certainly not good. The two biggest supermarkets (ASDA, and now Tesco) basically dropping nearly all Wii U stuff? Yeah, not exactly a great sign.

Hell, there's barely any Wii U stuff in my local GAME. You want to know how many copies of The Wonderful 101 they got it for example? 6. In total.
The Eupho Guy said:
Is the WiiU dead? Not really. Not from this, anyway. My experience with Dick Smith's is that they only stock a bare minimum of each systems best selling game lines at the best of times, so all in all it won't be that big of a loss. Were it EB Games (The Australian version of Gamestop) or JB HiFi that would be more of a concern, but its not, so I wouldn't read a whole lot into it.
EB Games is an American company owned by Gamestop. Started right outside of Philadelphia and eventually grew and opened up stores in the UK, Australia, etc
I believe he is saying that we don't have gamestop, that EB Games is their franchise here. We're quite aware that like almost everything else it's American owned >.>
 

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Dick Smith isn't even a retailer any more. It was doing so badly it got sold for a pittance by its previous owner, and is now being converted to be the electronics section of another major retailer (myer).
 

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EbonBehelit said:
Dick Smith's sells games now?

I mean, in all due seriousness, who goes to DSE specifically to buy games? They've had bare-bones product for pretty much every console for as long as I can remember.
Dick Smith's tends to have bare-bones product for damn near everything, at high prices. That's why they went under, a company that sells SOME TVs, SOME cables, SOME electrical gear and SOME games at prices like that can't compete with more specialised stores like JB or Jaycar.