UK Atheists Hope to Eliminate Jedi Population
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Isn't Scientology based off a really crappy Sci Fi novel by L. Ron Hubbard?
If I can't be a Jedi then other folks can't be Scientologists.
Where is my light saber!
I've met folks who think that Mars is closer to the sun than we are. I don't go out of my way to tell them that their astronomical understanding causes my brain to ache. No amount of evidence is enough to break the power of emotional irrationality.
Perhaps I'm being too hyperbolic, I imagine there is SOME amount but it's an incredibly unreasonable amount for sure.
If I can't be a Jedi then other folks can't be Scientologists.
Where is my light saber!
It'll be an unfortunate waste of your life if you try to reason people out of a position that they did not reason themselves into.Conor147 said:
I've met folks who think that Mars is closer to the sun than we are. I don't go out of my way to tell them that their astronomical understanding causes my brain to ache. No amount of evidence is enough to break the power of emotional irrationality.
Perhaps I'm being too hyperbolic, I imagine there is SOME amount but it's an incredibly unreasonable amount for sure.
I'm a athiest, but I love religions like the Jedi and the flying spaghetti monster.
Its christianity in all its forms that annoy me.
Its christianity in all its forms that annoy me.
I agree Jediism should be allowed if Scientology is, they are both based from science-fiction right?
Dumb athiests get with the joke.
Dumb athiests get with the joke.
I really don't see the point in trying to shoot down a religion like this. Whether you think these people are really devote Jedi or not. There are more important things to work through, like equal rights for everyone. Equal Religious rights, Equal rights to marry, Rights for people's health and well being. But people can't see the hate in the world and don't want to do anything about it because its not happening to them.
My biggest problem with this is that the sensationalist headline has ended up misleading those people who are more interested in spitting out whatever pithy comment first rolls out of their brain, than reading the article and finding out what the group in question is actually trying to achieve. If the headline was something like "Atheist group tries to encourage people not to piss around with the census", this thread probably wouldn't have reached 25 pages of what is mostly the same post repeatedly denouncing an argument that nobody's making.
Then again, even if the headline was accurate, chances are there'd be just as many posts saying, "Screw you, I'll do what I like, Imma put down "Jedi" just to stick it to the man. That'll show them gov'ments what they get for trying to produce an accurate cross-section of the people they're trying to govern. Yeah. Fight the power."
Then again, even if the headline was accurate, chances are there'd be just as many posts saying, "Screw you, I'll do what I like, Imma put down "Jedi" just to stick it to the man. That'll show them gov'ments what they get for trying to produce an accurate cross-section of the people they're trying to govern. Yeah. Fight the power."
There're are only about 10 in the no religion category out of around 200, and you'll still get your "1 million people picked jedi" statistic. But that's not really the point, it's more about allocating funding. £500m once every ten years isn't a lot, and it's provided about 31,000 jobs.raankh said:
Less fuss is made over nuclear weapons for fucks sake, and they cost £1.5bn a year in Britain alone, with next to no benefits.
I recommend explaining your comment with your own mental facilities, instead of doing nothing but quote the same pages of a 'wiki' five times in a row.
FYI: Not only have I googled each definition, prior to this particular occasion, my education thus far has been ENGLISH CENTERED, I know what they mean.
Obviously you are unaware of the difference between belief and faith. I've never met a 'devout' follower of ANY religion that used 'faith' as a substitute for 'knowledge'. As many of them believe that they KNOW (Read :KNOWledge) that their FAITH is the right one. Meaning that, according to truly devout (or brainwashed, whichever) followers, Faith and Knowledge are one in the same for many aspects of their Religion.
By definition, Atheists believe there is no God. If they're not certain, they are not Atheist. Wondering if there is a God, or if there is no God falls under the category of Agnostic.
For the record, I'm not trying at all to tear down ANY body, in ANY way. I'm merely voicing my opinion, as I'm entitled to do, and would appreciate it if people like you, who obviously 'believe' that there is and can only be one meaning for each word in this unholy bastardization of a language we call English, did not try to disprove something I was not trying to prove in the first place.
FYI: Not only have I googled each definition, prior to this particular occasion, my education thus far has been ENGLISH CENTERED, I know what they mean.
Obviously you are unaware of the difference between belief and faith. I've never met a 'devout' follower of ANY religion that used 'faith' as a substitute for 'knowledge'. As many of them believe that they KNOW (Read :KNOWledge) that their FAITH is the right one. Meaning that, according to truly devout (or brainwashed, whichever) followers, Faith and Knowledge are one in the same for many aspects of their Religion.
By definition, Atheists believe there is no God. If they're not certain, they are not Atheist. Wondering if there is a God, or if there is no God falls under the category of Agnostic.
For the record, I'm not trying at all to tear down ANY body, in ANY way. I'm merely voicing my opinion, as I'm entitled to do, and would appreciate it if people like you, who obviously 'believe' that there is and can only be one meaning for each word in this unholy bastardization of a language we call English, did not try to disprove something I was not trying to prove in the first place.
Oh goodness... I honestly don't even feel like talking about that wackjob... Let me make it strikingly clear: His views are entirely opinion.Conor147 said:
Good, now that we have that out of the way. The fact that the Bible was "called to the stand" when slavery abolition debate ensued America meant that people saw it as authority, it doesn't prove your point at all. I believe that they warped this "authority" to see out the ends of their agenda. I believe the Bible is against the kind of slavery seen in southern America, not only because of the slavery, but because of the way that black people were viewed throughout the whole world because of it. However, as I said at the beginning, the Bible has nothing against voluntary servitude to pay off debts etc. Just because it uses the same word doesn't mean it means the same thing in our culture today. If you see an old document and see that Rome that criticizes Rome's abusive power, you wouldn't say "No that's wrong! Rome is just a city in Italy that is mainly a tourist attraction! I don't think that they abuse their power at all..." Ancient perceptions of Rome when it was an empire were different than today, whereas they are not an empire. We can't talk about them as if they are the same thing. In the same way we can't talk about ancient slavery and modern slavery in the same way. Ancient slavery was mostly very humane, and it was just another way of earning a living involving voluntary servitude. this wasn't always true but this is the kind of slavery condoned in the Bible.
The funny thing is that they're not just going after Jedi. Christians have their own link. Jews and Sikhs as well as people who just refuse to answer the question are in the FAQ. All of them are being told "If you are not wholly devout, you should tick No Religion."
What's even better are some of the responses in this topic.
Great if the government are trying to stamp out organised religion, and this census is simply research toward that goal.
Yes. It'd also be great if the government decided to stamp out something you care about such as video games.
Noone reads Niemoller anymore.
i think anybody who chooses take piss should eb fined in the same way as if they didnt fill it out
Wow. Authoritarian government much? Why don't we just drag people out and shoot them if they don't give the correct answers? That seems like it would get the message across much more effectively. They could even do ad campaigns such as:
CENSUS: TAKE IT SERIOUSLY OR DIE.
Personally, if I were going to take the piss out of the census, I would put "Muslim" just so Michael Savage would start quoting discredited 2009 Youtube videos again as proof of the Muslim threat on the European Continent.
What's even better are some of the responses in this topic.
Great if the government are trying to stamp out organised religion, and this census is simply research toward that goal.
Yes. It'd also be great if the government decided to stamp out something you care about such as video games.
Noone reads Niemoller anymore.
i think anybody who chooses take piss should eb fined in the same way as if they didnt fill it out
Wow. Authoritarian government much? Why don't we just drag people out and shoot them if they don't give the correct answers? That seems like it would get the message across much more effectively. They could even do ad campaigns such as:
CENSUS: TAKE IT SERIOUSLY OR DIE.
Personally, if I were going to take the piss out of the census, I would put "Muslim" just so Michael Savage would start quoting discredited 2009 Youtube videos again as proof of the Muslim threat on the European Continent.
While I realize that the majority of the Jedi thing on the UK census is probably a joke, I could honestly see Jediism (though I have a feeling that's not how the religion as a whole should be called) being an honest to goodness religion. The Star Wars movies and expanded universe set out a set of philosophies and principles that the Jedi follow and belief in the Force, that which binds the whole universe together
50%..... I like your thinking.Caliostro said:
Tbh the "your not a jedi campaighn" just makes me want to put jedi all the more.