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am i the only one who isnt against this
im not some over protective socially conservative parent who thinks everything new is currupting children, im an 18 year old boy with a very liberal view of sex
but it does strike me that this isnt actually that bad, sure it does bring up the question of wether parents should be doing better so this wouldnt have to be considered in the first place, but it could help stop some mere revolting behaviour that youth of this nation keeps exerting
also im not against people looking at porn every now and then (i do on occasion) but it does seem some tennagers (sadly mostly men) are addicted to it, im not saying a bit of arousment every so often is bad, it beats sexual repression and the damage that comes with it but if we can to an extent limit the amount of porn children are exposed to then that is good
Yet i will agree it does raise another question, countries like france have a very liberal approach in terms of wether kids see porn or not and they have very low sex crimes and a less sexualyy obssessed population, it is possible that cracking down on these sex and nudity things may make people want it more (forbidden fruit is the sweater)
im not some over protective socially conservative parent who thinks everything new is currupting children, im an 18 year old boy with a very liberal view of sex
but it does strike me that this isnt actually that bad, sure it does bring up the question of wether parents should be doing better so this wouldnt have to be considered in the first place, but it could help stop some mere revolting behaviour that youth of this nation keeps exerting
also im not against people looking at porn every now and then (i do on occasion) but it does seem some tennagers (sadly mostly men) are addicted to it, im not saying a bit of arousment every so often is bad, it beats sexual repression and the damage that comes with it but if we can to an extent limit the amount of porn children are exposed to then that is good
Yet i will agree it does raise another question, countries like france have a very liberal approach in terms of wether kids see porn or not and they have very low sex crimes and a less sexualyy obssessed population, it is possible that cracking down on these sex and nudity things may make people want it more (forbidden fruit is the sweater)
wise words friend,demoman_chaos said:
OT: that is just extreme, Maybe 4chan will do something about it, because you know 4chan's favourite hobby....................fap.fap.fap............
I don't understand what's different. At the moment "safe search" is set on as default on Firefox. Unless this means you have to phone your ISP and ask them to allow access to porn. Can't see that been the way however since a parent might want porn while not letting the children view it. So are we talking about a parental lock type of system been put in place. If so, then good. I'm all for it. Either way I don't think it's going to make much difference.
Am I the only one who feels that if it wasn't for me having access to porn from the day I became sexually active, I would have most likely had more sexual partners and become more likely to contract an STD or get someone pregnant.
Fuck's sake...
I'm a teenager, not in the UK (thank god), and I think this is just retarded. I'm not a regular porn viewer by any stretch, but I still think that this is unwarranted and just totally silly. I don't understand why parents have the right to forfeit responsibility of their children. Not only that, but when are we going to stop viewing sex as an immoral, disgusting act? I've not had sex just yet, but I plan to, and it's not something I take lightly.
The issue isn't pornography. Trust me when I say, I've seen a shit-load of pornography, and it's really not the issue. The issue is respect for women, and for sex, and that isn't something that is learned from the internet. That is something that is learned from family life, and social life. I've seen a craptonne of porn, but I don't see sex as a trivial thing. I see it as something that should be handled with care and sensitivity. When myself and my girlfriend have sex for the first time, it won't be some seedy thing; we've already decided on that; it'll be something that we do because of our love and respect for each other. We agreed that we wanted it to be a loving thing, and it will be.
Again, I want to make the point that I've watched a craptonne of porn in my life.
The issue isn't watching porn, and I think I'm the living proof of that. The issue is that the teenagers/children haven't been brought up in an environment were women, bodies, and sex were respected.
It's slightly disturbing that the real issue is being so obscured here, behind the scapegoat of the internet. I can't believe that nobody can see this. Are politicians and do-gooder lobbyists/activists/parent groups the only people incapable of seeing this? It appears so.
I'm a teenager, not in the UK (thank god), and I think this is just retarded. I'm not a regular porn viewer by any stretch, but I still think that this is unwarranted and just totally silly. I don't understand why parents have the right to forfeit responsibility of their children. Not only that, but when are we going to stop viewing sex as an immoral, disgusting act? I've not had sex just yet, but I plan to, and it's not something I take lightly.
The issue isn't pornography. Trust me when I say, I've seen a shit-load of pornography, and it's really not the issue. The issue is respect for women, and for sex, and that isn't something that is learned from the internet. That is something that is learned from family life, and social life. I've seen a craptonne of porn, but I don't see sex as a trivial thing. I see it as something that should be handled with care and sensitivity. When myself and my girlfriend have sex for the first time, it won't be some seedy thing; we've already decided on that; it'll be something that we do because of our love and respect for each other. We agreed that we wanted it to be a loving thing, and it will be.
Again, I want to make the point that I've watched a craptonne of porn in my life.
The issue isn't watching porn, and I think I'm the living proof of that. The issue is that the teenagers/children haven't been brought up in an environment were women, bodies, and sex were respected.
It's slightly disturbing that the real issue is being so obscured here, behind the scapegoat of the internet. I can't believe that nobody can see this. Are politicians and do-gooder lobbyists/activists/parent groups the only people incapable of seeing this? It appears so.
1) They do realise that what you have to search to get porn isn't the sort of stuff that little timmy is gonna be searching, right?
2) I see this as the start of a very slippery slope. Whose to say what's too sexy to be let through? It could lead to banning stuff on anatomy, so "fuck you medical students" in other words.
3) Again, we get the wierd reaction that places sex as worse than murder. I still don't get that.
2) I see this as the start of a very slippery slope. Whose to say what's too sexy to be let through? It could lead to banning stuff on anatomy, so "fuck you medical students" in other words.
3) Again, we get the wierd reaction that places sex as worse than murder. I still don't get that.
Block porn? As it was said in Jurassic Park "Life Finds A Way", no doubt we will find a way to watch porn.
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Also, Its a bit silly how the legal age of consent here in Britian is 16, but you can only watch porn when you're 18.
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Also, Its a bit silly how the legal age of consent here in Britian is 16, but you can only watch porn when you're 18.
funnily enough I just finished...perusing the interwebs...before reading this. And i'm 14! 
If they do bring this into action (which seems unlikely)i have a freind who'll be 18 by february and a USB stick. I'm sure there'll be other teenagers with easier ways of seeing tits. Also, imaginations.
If they do bring this into action (which seems unlikely)i have a freind who'll be 18 by february and a USB stick. I'm sure there'll be other teenagers with easier ways of seeing tits. Also, imaginations.
First, even though I am English I spent some of my time going up in mainland Europe. There youngsters had, even before the internet, much easier access to porn than in the UK, even of the hardcore variety, just from the TV channels. So if access to porn is so bad for children how come the UK has the worst rates for teenage pregnancy and STD's across Europe?
Second why aren't parents being encouraged to use the already existing technology of parental controls. Rather than having a centralized solution forced down our throats. Also it won't work as half the parents in the UK are likely to opt in. Just cause your a parent does not mean you don't like looking at porn. The ideal solution would be something you could opt-in and out of in demand. That sound a lot like parental controls to me. So we are going to spend a load of money on an infrastructure that won't even do what it is designed for.....
Thirdly why as an adult do I have to opt-in to uncensored internet access. This should be an extra services parents have to take out where they bear the extra costs due to it being in place. Being someone with no children I am so fed up of being inconvenience due to other people deciding to have children. People who have decided to have children should be the only ones who should be inconvenienced.
In fact I say parents should be sent to a country or island while their kids are going up where it is completely safe with no access to violent or pornographic TV or internet and no chance of pedos roaming the streets. The rest of us then can live in a country where everything is uncensored, etc as there are no kids around it could cause some made up harm to.
Second why aren't parents being encouraged to use the already existing technology of parental controls. Rather than having a centralized solution forced down our throats. Also it won't work as half the parents in the UK are likely to opt in. Just cause your a parent does not mean you don't like looking at porn. The ideal solution would be something you could opt-in and out of in demand. That sound a lot like parental controls to me. So we are going to spend a load of money on an infrastructure that won't even do what it is designed for.....
Thirdly why as an adult do I have to opt-in to uncensored internet access. This should be an extra services parents have to take out where they bear the extra costs due to it being in place. Being someone with no children I am so fed up of being inconvenience due to other people deciding to have children. People who have decided to have children should be the only ones who should be inconvenienced.
In fact I say parents should be sent to a country or island while their kids are going up where it is completely safe with no access to violent or pornographic TV or internet and no chance of pedos roaming the streets. The rest of us then can live in a country where everything is uncensored, etc as there are no kids around it could cause some made up harm to.
Huh...I guess we can't count on parents to be the parents for their own children. They need the government to raise their children for them.
Also since when is porn doing mental damage to kids? What, someone saw little Jimmy hugging little Suzie in a manner they, in their singularity-level stuffiness, deemed inappropriate, so they don't want to look at the simple answer, and they blame porn just because they need someone to blame so they don't have to deal with 'difficult' issues for themselves.
Seriously, I fucking hate living in this country. I don't wanna have to 'opt in' to view porn. Knowing our government they're keeping a list of who's opted in. I aint ashamed of watching porn, but I don't want to be on some official list of what will undoubtedly come to be referred to as "internet degenerates" and be subsequently blamed for corrupting children just cause I like to watch porn.
Also since when is porn doing mental damage to kids? What, someone saw little Jimmy hugging little Suzie in a manner they, in their singularity-level stuffiness, deemed inappropriate, so they don't want to look at the simple answer, and they blame porn just because they need someone to blame so they don't have to deal with 'difficult' issues for themselves.
Seriously, I fucking hate living in this country. I don't wanna have to 'opt in' to view porn. Knowing our government they're keeping a list of who's opted in. I aint ashamed of watching porn, but I don't want to be on some official list of what will undoubtedly come to be referred to as "internet degenerates" and be subsequently blamed for corrupting children just cause I like to watch porn.
I predict this won't go well for the government. It didn't happen in Australia, and I don't think it will happen in the UK. Plus, any government "filter" would be ridiculously easy to circumvent - in fact, that's one of the reasons the Australian government didn't go ahead with the filter - because it was easy, and legal, to use free tools to get around any filter.
I will say that people should criticize the UK government for considering this, but I will also say that it probably won't succeed.
Kids will always find ways to look at pornography. In the old days, kids used to steal magazines from their dad's closet or watch late night TV.
If you don't want your child to be negatively impacted by nudity and pornography, then actually PARENT them for a change. Buy an internet filter, Don't let them have a computer in their room until they're older, teach them proper rules and behaviour and keep an eye on them. It's not that hard. Again, as others have said, it's as if a lot of parents have thrown up their hands in despair, wailing "oh how can we protect the kids", instead of actually trying to protect their kids.
MY parents actually TAUGHT me stuff about rules and morals and social responsibility. MY parents actually limited TV and computer access til I was older. MY parents actually did a little something called PARENTING. And other parents can do the same. THEY didn't need no internet filter to raise me or my siblings, and we turned out great.
I will say that people should criticize the UK government for considering this, but I will also say that it probably won't succeed.
Kids will always find ways to look at pornography. In the old days, kids used to steal magazines from their dad's closet or watch late night TV.
If you don't want your child to be negatively impacted by nudity and pornography, then actually PARENT them for a change. Buy an internet filter, Don't let them have a computer in their room until they're older, teach them proper rules and behaviour and keep an eye on them. It's not that hard. Again, as others have said, it's as if a lot of parents have thrown up their hands in despair, wailing "oh how can we protect the kids", instead of actually trying to protect their kids.
MY parents actually TAUGHT me stuff about rules and morals and social responsibility. MY parents actually limited TV and computer access til I was older. MY parents actually did a little something called PARENTING. And other parents can do the same. THEY didn't need no internet filter to raise me or my siblings, and we turned out great.
Because, as we all know, Australian media will hear of UK government actions before any news channel or newspaper in the UK does. Believe me, if something like that were happening, the Daily Mail would have already made at least four hundred articles about how it's heralding the apocalypse.
Yeah... thats not going to happen. I don't actually need to read the site to know that its bullshit. It would be like the government trying to ban alcohol, it's just not going to work.
I will read the website, if i change my opinion i will edit... but i doubt it.
Edit: Yeahhh... it's not quite what the title suggests really. Still won't work. They aren't banning Porn, it's more that they are making it just a little out-of-the-way, which still won't stop teenagers looking up porn.
I will read the website, if i change my opinion i will edit... but i doubt it.
Edit: Yeahhh... it's not quite what the title suggests really. Still won't work. They aren't banning Porn, it's more that they are making it just a little out-of-the-way, which still won't stop teenagers looking up porn.
So you have to request certain porn websites if you want to access them? Sounds fun.
Dear XXX,
I would like to access hotanime-tentacleXXX.com.
Yours sincerely,
Mr. John Silver
And here I thought it was nobody's business which porn you want to watch. Oh well, goodbye anonymity.
Besides, since when is depicted nudity bad for children? OH NOES OH NOES NUDE PEOPLE HIDE YO KIDS HIDE YO WIFES
It's not like it's something perfectly natural or something that you are most likely going to do yourself one day.
Hey, I've got an idea! Let's ban mirrors. I mean, kids can see themselves naked in them, can't they? Imagine the horror those poor kids must feel!
Seriously, when did people stop parenting? Ever heard about sex-educating your child? And parental control devices for the weirder stuff?
God****ingdammit, me is mad.
Good one.
Dear XXX,
I would like to access hotanime-tentacleXXX.com.
Yours sincerely,
Mr. John Silver
And here I thought it was nobody's business which porn you want to watch. Oh well, goodbye anonymity.
Besides, since when is depicted nudity bad for children? OH NOES OH NOES NUDE PEOPLE HIDE YO KIDS HIDE YO WIFES
It's not like it's something perfectly natural or something that you are most likely going to do yourself one day.
Hey, I've got an idea! Let's ban mirrors. I mean, kids can see themselves naked in them, can't they? Imagine the horror those poor kids must feel!
Seriously, when did people stop parenting? Ever heard about sex-educating your child? And parental control devices for the weirder stuff?
God****ingdammit, me is mad.
Oh, I see what you did there.Spicyrocketsauce said:
Good one.
This has been rumbling for a month now and has been widely reported in UK tech mags like the Register. But is is at an early stage and papers won't bother until the gov floats a proposal about how it will be done. Hopefully the ISP's can explain that this system will be a technical nightmare before then.MurderousToaster said:
Riiiight. Because kids are TOTALLY not subjected to sex and sexualisation in the likes of other media such as newspapers, magazines, television and movies.
If you are going to do it on the Interweb, you will have to do it on the other media too. And of course, they won't do that.
If you are going to do it on the Interweb, you will have to do it on the other media too. And of course, they won't do that.