UK Internet Pirate Goes to Jail for Long Time

Zer0Saber

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Doesn't Google do the same thing. You do a search for videos then Google provides links to websites with pirated videos to view, and Google makes money off of advertising.
 

getoffmycloud

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Zer0Saber said:
Doesn't Google do the same thing. You do a search for videos then Google provides links to websites with pirated videos to view, and Google makes money off of advertising.
I think the difference is google isn't designed to do that like this website was which is why it can't be shut down but they are still getting lots of heat over pirate websites appearing in searches.
 

tmande2nd

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Once again we see a government more concerned with protecting big companies then normal people.

Judge: I could be reasonable but my political party is aligned with the guy whose toes you stepped on so ROT IN JAIL!

Sometimes its easy to see why people hate their governments.
 

Fishyash

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Sober Thal said:
Damn right, send em to jail.

When will you people learn that you shouldn't make money from IP theft? Probably never.
I think it's time for the MPAA to start going after google now.

Honeslty, ignoring the stories being told from Vickerman about the shadiness of FACT spying on him, and the court case seeming like it was set up unfairly, and how the police weren't involved for the majority of the investigation...

This is just BS. You can find more links to illegal downloads using a common search engine than you could on STC...
Four years in jail? Really? If even half of what Vickerman is saying on his site is true then it just makes it even worse.
 

DancePuppets

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I actually support the courts here, he was making money from a site promoting piracy, if he hadn't have been then he should have been let off with a caution.
 

Gordon Freemonty

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Absolutely disgusting. I have just read the entire story on FACT ltd on surfthechannel.com. I honestly cannot believe this stuff goes on.
 

McMullen

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Sober Thal said:
Damn right, send em to jail.

When will you people learn that you shouldn't make money from IP theft? Probably never.
Reread the second paragraph. He got ten years for posting links to youtube videos, not to torrent sites. They could send the administrators of Tvtropes and this site to prison for the same thing.

Piracy is wrong, but hamhanded prosecution of IP laws is also wrong, and that's what's happening here.

Do you really think it's fair to send a person to jail for 10 years for posting links to youtube videos? I think there's a bigger need to lock you up than him; he's not advocating destruction of people's lives over trivial things, you are.
 

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Kordie said:
So... he directed people on where to go to watch tv including legal and illegal places...

This is rediculous that a mans life is ruined over sharing information that is already freely available. Also, how is generating ad revenue for this wrong? Wouldn't that make youtube punishable? and google? If I made the same website and just listed the illegal places under a seperate heading of BTW avoid these specific sites as they are not legal sources, would there still be a problem?

Nothing about this case seems on the level. I can agree that piracy is bad, but this is not the way to stop it.
So if he told bank robbers where you could buy illegal firearms that would be ok? He is crook plain and simple and he has rightly gone to jail.
 

Emiscary

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Leave it to intellectual copyright thugs to come up with a self important acronym like "FACT" for themselves.
 

Kordie

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albino boo said:
Kordie said:
So... he directed people on where to go to watch tv including legal and illegal places...

This is rediculous that a mans life is ruined over sharing information that is already freely available. Also, how is generating ad revenue for this wrong? Wouldn't that make youtube punishable? and google? If I made the same website and just listed the illegal places under a seperate heading of BTW avoid these specific sites as they are not legal sources, would there still be a problem?

Nothing about this case seems on the level. I can agree that piracy is bad, but this is not the way to stop it.
So if he told bank robbers where you could buy illegal firearms that would be ok? He is crook plain and simple and he has rightly gone to jail.
Customers don't matter, you can't tell if your selling a gun to a mass murderer or a hunter. Second, if you asked me where to buy a gun and I said here is a list of 17 places that sell the gun you want including bills black market ally warehouse, then it is up to you the consumer to choose what store to go to. He pointed people to both legitimate and illegitimate sources, which is nothing a google search won't do already.
 

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Loop Stricken said:
And yet, Google do the same thing, and no doubt profit far more from advertising whilst doing so.
Yes, but Google is much too powerful. Lobbying groups and businesses like this pick on the little guys that can't afford the top lawyers and favors in court.
 

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albino boo said:
So if he told bank robbers where you could buy illegal firearms that would be ok? He is crook plain and simple and he has rightly gone to jail.
Why are you using something far worse that he didn't do as justification for this? He maybe deserves a small fine. He doesn't deserve jail. Hell, most people here have posted links to youtube videos that would probably be considered IP infringement. Do we deserve jailtime?

People be bloodthirsty and vindictive in this thread. Makes me worried about the future. I get the feeling that if people like you get their way, there will come a day where not committing severely punishable offenses will actually be hard.
 

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Agow95 said:
Loop Stricken said:
And yet, Google do the same thing, and no doubt profit far more from advertising whilst doing so.
Isn't Google a American company though? FACT is based in Britain, and it's most likely only capable of arresting sites based in the UK, like the one that got this British guy arrested, FACT trying to arrest the head of Google would be like the FBI launching a full-scale assault on a fat man in New Zealand.
". For those that are unaware FACT Ltd is the UK regional office of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)". So really Google and Youtube should totally be liable, but they aren't because money talks.

Quote from what it now says on SurftheChannel.
 

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Can't help the feeling we're falling into a corporate run dystopian era
I felt it ever since the Tories got a majority in the commons on election night.

And here we are now. In a country where the people are ants, willing to be stepped on because of peer preasure and right wing politics. Another reason why I am considering moving to Canada when I can afford it.

CAPTCHA: Heartache.

How my heartaches at the fact our government is being twisted by the big businesses.